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| Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| zman |
| 09/08/00 at 00:23:42 |
| Assalam Aleikum, I've had this question for quite a while but really didn't know whom to ask, so here goes: If I arrive at the Masjid late for a prayer and see that the jama't has already finished, say, 2 rakats out of 4 for Zuhr, then how do I complete the prayer? When I get up and pray the remaining 2 rakats on my own, do I perform the rakats like my first two (ie. read short sura after al-fatiha) or do I perform them like my last 2? The few people that I've asked this question have given me contradictory answers. I hope ya'll understand my question otherwise I'll try to rephrase it. allah hafiz, Zahid. |
| Re: Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/08/00 at 09:20:52 |
| Assalamu alaikum, I think there are two different opinions on this issue. One is that you continue the salah as you would pray any normal prayer. So suppose you only caught two rak'ahs with the jamaa'ah, you would assume that the two you caught (the third and fourth rak'ahs of the jama'ah) were your FIRST and SECOND rak'ahs. You would then get up and pray the THIRD and FOURTH rak'ahs of the prayer by yourself. The other opinion is that you would assume that the two rak'ahs that you caught were indeed the last two rak'ahs, and thus when you get up to make up the remainding two, you would first pray the FIRST rak'ah, and then the SECOND (not third and fourth). I hope this makes sense! I think the first opinion is that of Shaf'ee, and the second is that of Hanafee. From what I know, they are both strong opinions. I tend to follow the first one because if someone was to join you and start a jama'ah while you were finishing your prayers, how in the world are you going to make the jamaa'ah if praying with the second method? But then again, in the Hanafee madh-hab, you are not allowed to make such a jamaa'ah. Wallahu a'lam. |
| Re: Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| proudtobemuslim |
| 09/08/00 at 09:46:07 |
| Assalam-u-Alaikum, It is worth knowing that you can pray a Salah wihtout ever reciting any other surah other than Surah Al-Faiithah and it being correct. Here is the daleel for this. Volume 1, Book 12, Number 739: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Qur'an is recited in every prayer and in those prayers in which Allah's Apostle recited aloud for us, we recite aloud in the same prayers for you; and the prayers in which the Prophet recited quietly, we recite quietly. If you recite "Al-Fatiha" only it is sufficient but if you recite something else in addition, it is better. So, I just remain on the safe side and pray as if they were my last 2 ra'akahs of the salah. On another note, I would like to know if it is allowed for a jama'ah to be held after the original masjid jama'ah is missed e.g. arriving late for salah with others... the imam finished so can we start another new jama'ah in the mosque? Wassalam-u-Alaikum |
| Re: Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| Saif |
| 09/08/00 at 14:40:01 |
| Assalamu Alaikum, Br. Zahid. I asked a Hanafi Alim several questions about how to join the congregational prayer, and this is what he told me... He just asked me to remember two simple rules. The first is that... When you stand up (after the Imam has done tasleem), you are praying the first rak'ah (so you are praying the first raka'h, because that is the one that you missed)... So, basically, in your example... You got the last two rak'ahs of Dhuhr in congregation... So, you missed the *first* two, which you 'make up' after tasleem. It would be unusual for anybody else to join you, because you do not pray the remainder of the Salah (that you missed), out loud... But I don't know what the other madhhabs say, al hamdulillah, all the ulama are correct. (Mind you, all that I'm saying is what I was taught from a hanafi alim). The second rule is that, you must sit for tashahhud at the end of every two rak'ahs. So, let us say, you rush into the mosque for Maghrib Salah... And you only manage to catch the last Rak'ah. The Imam does tasleem (assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah), and you stand up... You recite Fatiha and a short Surah... Then you go down... So far you have performed a total of two rak'ahs (one with the Imam, and one by yourself)... Now, you *must* sit and say tashahhud (attahiyyatu lillahi, etc)... Then you get up and do your third rak'ah (again saying Fatiha and Surah), then you sit and finish your salah. So basically, in my example, you have said tashahhud three times. I hope this wasn't too complicated (Salah questions are best answered in real life, rather than letters, maybe it's best if you ask your Imam). I hope that helps, and Allah knows best. Khoda hafiz, Saiful Haque. |
| Re: Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/08/00 at 14:57:59 |
| Saif: Glad to see another Haque in da house :) Wassalamu alaikum. Arsalan Haque |
| Re: Missing raka't in Congregational prayers |
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| Saif |
| 09/08/00 at 15:25:21 |
| Ahh... :) Al hamdulillah. (I think I'm getting the hang of this posting business)... Saif. |
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