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Nazia
09/12/00 at 22:03:58
Assalamu Alaikum!
I hope everyone is doing well.  My name is Nazia, and this is my first post.  I have to say, this message board you guys have going on is all kinds of impressive, Masha'Allah.  Mad props to the administrators :)  I noticed this board for the first time only a few days ago, and since then have been reading many of the postings.  I've noticed some interesting issues being raised, so I thought I would go ahead and register myself so I could be in on the action. :)  Anyways, I am a third year college student living in.. Alabama! Yes! There are Muslims here!! Lots infact! (Mashallah).  So anyways, I guess thats enough of an intro, and Insha'Allah you'll see me around.  Take Care,
Nazia
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jannah
09/13/00 at 00:21:34
walaikum salaam warahmatullah wabarakatuhu,

welcome to the message board nazia, it's nice to meet you :)  some friends of ours just moved to mobile, alabama... boy were we surprised.. they actually said they had a mosque there... a mosque in mobile, alabama...imagine that ;)
Alabama
tq
09/13/00 at 11:54:21
Assalamo elikum
Where in AL are you Nazia? I am in Birmingham.
Jannah: Yes there are mosques and Islamic schools(my kids goes to one)in quite few cities in AL (Birmingham, Huntsville, Mobile, Tuscaloosa etc ).



Wasalam
tq
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Nazia
09/13/00 at 14:18:56
Assalamu Alaikum,

Yup, surprisingly enough, we have a pretty good number of Muslims here.  Alhamdulillah we have an absolutely amazing community and a beautiful mosque, and I encourage all of you all to move here :) No, but seriously, it is a nice, close knit group, and it was (in my opinion) a pretty good place to grow up.  Tq--I live in Huntsville, and I'm a student at Univ AL in Hville.

BUT..as much as I love bama, I will be moving soon. Next year I plan to make the trek out Dallas Tx.  Insha'Allah.  I'll miss this place, but I am DEFINITELY looking forward to the move. Anyone out there who can give me info on the Dallas/Plano/Richardson Muslim community?
Thanks in advance,
Wassalam,
Nazia
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Arsalan
09/13/00 at 17:17:20
Assalamu alaikum,

Dallas/Richardson: For a big city, it's a good enough community!  At least that's what I've heard.  Maybe Saleema knows more.

[i]Anything[/i] is better than Houston though, that's for sure ;)

Wassalamu alaikum.

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jannah
09/13/00 at 17:35:34
I thought Houston had tons of Muslims and lots of mosques and Islamic stuff going on? Or is it a case of quantity vs quality?
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Arsalan
09/13/00 at 17:40:08
Assalamu alaikum,
[quote]I thought Houston had tons of Muslims and lots of mosques[/quote]
TOO many mosques!  The city is huge.  The community is spread out, and divided.  The masajid don't get along with each other.  Worse, people inside a single masjid don't get along with each other.  There's a lot of politics and a lot of division.  Saleema can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I've exaggerated.

Wassalamu alaikum
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Asim
09/13/00 at 22:31:46
Assalaamu alaikum,
[quote]TOO many mosques![/quote]
Alhamdulillah! There are many Muslims who would love to have a mosque close to work or home. As long as the mosques are not segregated and they do not snub others who attend, I think it is all good.

Regarding inter-mosque politics, this is really unfortunate and has to do with nationalistic and/or racial divisions. Another thing I have noticed here in the U.S. is that Muslims who have helped build a mosque take pride in their achievements and belittle all other efforts and mosques. This is a good reflection of their true intentions for helping out in the first place. I believe all mosques in a city should have a central organizing/operating comittee that oversees all mosques comittees and helps in inter-mosque activity coordination.
[quote]Worse, people inside a single masjid don't get along with each other.[/quote]
This is a universal problem! Every person thinks that s/he is right and everyone else is wrong and closes all doors to consultations.

Wasalaam.
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Safiya
09/16/00 at 03:10:56
slm

sister, how r u, hope in good health...
i seem to bee a bit late on the scene, i haven't visited for a while...

take care
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HS786
09/16/00 at 09:42:57
Assalam Alaikum wrwb,

Arsalan this happens not just in Houston but all over the world in Muslims. I said Muslims and not all human beings because Muslims should know better. The problem is that the people who have the control of the masajids are mostly 1st generation of Muslims in US with lot of cultural baggage and very little understanding of the true essence and spirit of Islam.
but u know what? we have very high hopes for the younger generation, people like you, masha'Allah who will bring the change in our community insha'Allah. But look at the positive side, this behavior of our elders have taught us to stay away from politics and do things not for personal pride or pleasure but for the pleasure of Allah (SWT). Because of their behavior, we all have more awareness of the right and wrong. Insha'Allah the younger generation will bring back the Islamic way of life with same feelings and emotions (or almost the same) as the companions of the Prophet (S). and when Allah (SWT) will saw all of us struggling and strifing for His pleasure He will help us insha'Allah
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widad
09/16/00 at 11:08:13
slm
This is the case all over the world,even here in our small community,where I live(about 400 families)we had a school for teaching quran and tajweed,we were all of the same heart and mind and then something happened and some new people arrived and changed everything ,now not all are allowed to join to study,you have to be very strict in your dress and behaviour.My friend and I tried to tell them,you must give everybody a chance,how will people ever learn if they are deprived of attending classes ????
lahawla wala quwata illa billah.
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Saleema
09/16/00 at 11:40:10
Assalamoalykum,

Anything is better than Houston, Arsalan is right. Even weather wise.

Dallas has a bad weather too. It's really dry.
And a very popular gay "muslims" guy who has gotten a lot of publicity in the news and has emabarrased the muslims. His parents accept him.

Then there's a ex-husband who has problems with his ex-wife, who is the woman who ran for a parliment seat in turky and won and half of the men walked out cuz she was wearing a hijab. His articles about her get pulblished all the time, and of course they are all bad. I have also heard that the missionaries and the muslims, that they don't get along in dallas. Something they said on the news that offended the Muslims.

Wassalam

About the first generation Muslims, you are right. At our Masjid, we, the youth, are taking over slowly and the adults don't like that!

Wassalam,
Saleema
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Zara
09/18/00 at 07:48:25
Masha'allah there are many new people!!!!
However the majority of you seem to be in America...There don't seem to be many muslims
from UK...I guess its up to us to spread the word
and increase awareness of this brilliant site...

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Kathy
09/18/00 at 08:47:01
slm
These posts made me stop and ponder.

They say history repeats its self.

I live in a very small city with a small community of Muslims. There are many many different nationalities.
We have two mosques- one sunni and one shitte, now a third is being built, with a fourth being thought of to seperate from the first generation immigrants from Pakistan.

How sad.
I look around my neighborhood. There are at least 10 churches in the three mile radius. All of them have a different cultural feel and immigrant group.
Apparently we are not the first to experience this same problem.
Wonder what we can do to stop the same history, for us?
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Saleema
09/19/00 at 12:32:23
Assalamoalykum,

Dear Kathy--Perhaps it was my post that prompted you to write about your community? Let me explain something. We are not building a different masjid just taking over it. Running things, organizing,etc.

See, the first generation Muslims have brought their cultural baggage with them over here and we, the youth, don't want that baggage. We want Islam, the real Islam. These first generation Muslims are afraid because the real Islam is 'new' to them and people are always afraid of change.

May I ask a question? Why in the world are the young people in your community building a separate majid? That's crazy. No matter what, with all the cultural Islam that the first generation Muslims present us with, we still need their guidance and blessings and prayer.


Wassalam
NS
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Kathy
09/20/00 at 17:27:33
slm
The reason being- different schools of thought....

Last year was the final blow to a lot of people. We actually celebrated Eid on two different days.

The community was ripped in half. I must admit I was pretty vocal about the issue. Humdil Allah they had a impromtu dinner on Eid. Unfortuantely half of us did not hear about it and did not attend.
The third mosque being built is for "all of us" but I will not be surprised to see the division begin.
In our community one nationality holds the power and the purse strings. Insha Allah we will work this out.
But it is definately a Jones vs Smith problem....
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Asim
09/20/00 at 17:57:44
slm

We actually celebrated Eid on two different days.

Yep, same thing happened in our community. In earlier years, there were disagreements but the unofficial Eid prayer was held secretly or with little fanfare. This year they promoted it right from the start of Ramadan (like they knew the day already!). The whole issue was also marred by backbiting and name calling and what not. Really pathetic. An occasion like Eid, meant to celebrate Muslim unity, turned into a vivid reflection of how disunited we are.

Wasalaam.
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Kathy
09/20/00 at 19:59:44
slm
I was also feeling sad for myself. I really enjoy seeing and meeting all the women there. I stay at home for Jummah prayers- so this is what I look forward to.
I also felt bad for my son. At age six he is now looking forward to the Mosque Eid events. He had practised a surah for months- they have kids reciting through the break- and was quite sad that he wasn't able to do it. Granted, all mercy comes from Allah swt.
Maybe someone could shed some light on why the men are reluctant to step up and challenge the brothers who choose wrong.? Is it a "man" thing? Most women have no problem expressing their thoughts and being confrontational- expecially when they know they are right.
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Zara
10/19/00 at 12:39:29
Salaams Nazia

*snap* You and I share the same name....

How are you? Alhamdolillah I am well..I hope you are in the best of health and iman too....

Where did you find the following extract - excuse my ignorance but who is rumi?

"Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing
there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, even the phrase each other doesn't make any sense.
-Rumi "

Wasalaam

Zara
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Nazia
10/19/00 at 13:05:51
Assalamu Alaikum Nazia :)

Rumi was a very famous Muslim poet from the 1200's ad.  His work has been praised not only by the Muslim community, but by the rest of the world as well.  His works are very passionate and incredibly insightful.  Its easy to get lost in his writings, because each person will take something different from his eloquent verses.  He writes a lot about his deep love for Allah and his passion for this religion.  Anyways, I am no Rumi expert, but perhaps Br. Lightingatnite can tell you more; I know he is an avid Rumi reader.

As for my signature, I got it out of one of my Rumi books- [i]The Illuminated Rumi[/i]  

Take Care,
Wassalam
Nazia
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Arsalan
10/19/00 at 14:01:50
Which language did he write poetry in?  I, for one, find his works translated in English extremely difficult to decipher!  But then again, I was never good in English poetry.
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proudtobemuslim
10/23/00 at 10:22:02
[quote]I've also read how some people believe that they are so close to God that they no longer need to deal with such trivial physical action as salah, zakah, etc. because of their high station.[/quote]

Huh?  NOBODY has a higher station than the Prophet (SAW) and he (to take the words of sis. se7en from another post...) even did housework.

Wassalam-u-Alaikum
Uzer


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