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Bizarre queries of children: If shaytaan is made of fire, how is Hell going to hurt him, Where is Allah, etc
Arsalan
07/07/01 at 01:28:11
Assalamu alaikum,

I was asked at Sunday school this question by a child, while I was telling the children about shaytaan.

"If shaytaan is made of fire, how is Hell going to hurt him?"

How would you answer this question?  Remember, we're talking to 7 year olds here.
Re: A bizarre query of a child
jannah
09/18/00 at 19:07:30
walaikum salaam wrt,

even if you're made of dirt if someone throws dirt at you it hurts?

i was asked this weekend:

'if Allah knows everything how come we have to live our life then' - advanced 8 year old

so after trying to explain it for 5 minutes it hit me... i said 'what if you guys just walked in the door and i said.. saba you get a F on your final exam, ahmad you get an A, aisha you get a 53, etc' you guys would hate that right.. you'd say 'wait a minute!!! i didn't take the final exam yet..i would have studied and done well!! right...in the same way Allah knows people would have objected if they didn't get to actually LIVE out their life and actually see the consequences of their actions...etc

wow it was like light bulbs went off

mashallah the class i have this year they are so bright and eager to learn i really love teaching

if any of you have any good lesson plans fun things you do let me know inshallah
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Saleema
09/19/00 at 13:10:18
Salam,

Yoy ppl actually enjoy teaching little brats?

How do people do it.

(Yes, yes, i was a brat too once... but still...)

Wassalam
Re: A bizarre query of a child
jannah
09/19/00 at 14:04:06
they're not brats!!! well maybe 1 or 2, but most kids are just kids, they are on the fitrah and want to be good, it's just a matter of gaining their respect, following through and keeping them interested and learning... no small task indeed
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Arsalan
09/19/00 at 15:00:00
Assalamu alaikum,

I should have made you disqualified from answering the question jannah!  You gave away the answer too quickly.  I was hoping this would stir some discussion on here.

Anyway, that's exactly what I told them (except that I said "clay" rather than "dirt" ).  I think this answer was given by one of the earlier shuyookh upon a query from a non Muslim.  He actually responded by hitting the man with some mud from the ground and then asking "did that hurt?"  Pretty dramatic :)

Saleema, teaching little kids is a lot of fun, like jannah said ... and a lot of reward.  Moreover, it's sadaqah jaariyah (continuous charity till the D.O.J.).  

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Kashif
09/19/00 at 17:02:56
assalaamu alaikum

From notes from my tafseer class:

Imam Abu Hanifa was once asked by a man: (a) If the jinn are created from Fire, then how will they be punished in the Fire? (b) If Allah exists, why can’t we see Him? (c) Why is there need for a Day of Judgement?

Upon hearing this, Abu Hanifa took a lump of dust/mud and threw it at the questioner’s face. The man was shocked, and said “how can you do this? Is this my reward for asking you a question?” Abu Hanifa replied, “but I have answered two of your questions.” The man asked him to explain. So Abu Hanifa said: “I hit you with dust/mud and you yourself are created from dust/mud, so that is the answer to your first question. As for the second question do you feel any pain (now)?” So the man said yes. Abu Hanifa asked to show him the pain, so the man said “I am feeling the pain but how can I show you it?” So Abu Hanifa said “that is the answer to your second question.”

Then the Imam asked the man “if someone does injustice to you in this world, where will you go?” So the man replied “to the Qadhi (Judge) of course.” So Abu Hanifa replied, “if you need a judge in this life, then what about the Hereafter?”
Re: A bizarre query of a child
mahsou411
09/19/00 at 18:23:57
Salaam,
Ok How would you answer this question from a child..."Where is Allah?" Now, a sister onced asked me that and i wasn't really sure how to answer that. She said He is on His Throne above the seven heavens because that's what it says in the Qur'an. But when you explain this to a child they will immedeatly picture a person on a throne, like a king and we don't want that so how do you answer this question? Also, muslims are not to believe that Allahis everywhere as some Christians do right?
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Arsalan
09/19/00 at 19:01:45
Allah is above the seven heavens (Recall the incident of Israa' wal Mi'raaj), and He sees and knows everything.  

Wallahu a'lam.

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: A bizarre query of a child
jannah
09/19/00 at 22:39:37
Aminah that is a good question. It is important that at this point you go into alot of the concepts of Tawheed. That Allah is in the Heavens, but laysa kamithlihi shay.. there is nothing like him... explain surah ikhlas, they understand that.. what I told my class is that Allah's Knowledge is everywhere, but HE Himself Allah is in the heavens, but we can't even imagine what that's like. Taweheed Ar-Ruboobeeyah, Al-Ubudiyyah, Al-Asma Wassafaat
go into all of those in simple terms.. it is important they know all this as a foundation.
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Saleema
09/19/00 at 23:58:24
Salam

Guess what? I am stuck with teaching 5th and 4th graders!! And I can't say no. No more substitution, I am the regular teacher.

There's a fifth grader who is always making these funny comments and disrupting the class... I don't know what to do with him. He's 13 and still in the 5th grade at weekend school.

As if things weren't going bad enough with me being sick and having trouble with Biology. But maybe it is a test from Allah, you know, see how much service I want to do for Him, where I find it to do so the hardest. Just came back from the halaqa at the FPC (Five Pillars Center) and it was on trials and how Allah tests us.

I guess if I look at this as a path which will lead me to success in the hereafter, things will be easier for me. Maybe Allah wants for me to learn a lesson. It reminds of the time I laughed at the poor guy who fell down the stairs and then i fell down too, right then and there. Allah taught me my lesson. And here I was talking about how kids are brats and now maybe Allah wants me to see that they are little angels behind those evil grins. :)

Anyway, I guess I need to stop looking at things as coincedences or scientific phenomenons. After all, everything belongs to Allah and not a leaf stirs without His will. I hope Allah will make this easier for me and make it good for me and that I benefit from this. And most important of all I hope my students will benefit from it!!

Wassalam
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Arsalan
09/20/00 at 09:32:57
Assalamu alaikum,

I think teaching elder kids (10 and above) is easier than teaching the young ones (6-9).  For one thing, the children can READ!!!  It's difficult to maintain the attention of kids when they can't read!  Imagine!  You can't write anything on the board, you can't give them any reading/writing assignments, etc.  Moreover, the older kids are usually more mature.

Teaching is a very rewarding job.  Islamically, it's also a duty on the learned ones to teach the young/unlearned.  May Allah help you do it in the best manner.

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: A bizarre query of a child
jannah
09/20/00 at 10:49:27
Saleema and others... I have tons of stuff I have saved over the years. Maybe I can take a day on the weekend sometime and upload everything to a folder on the server. There's like tests that are word documents and worksheets and stuff..
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Arsalan
09/20/00 at 11:20:22
Assalamu alaikum,

Jannah, that would be nice if you could do that.  Actually, you should get that stuff uploaded somewhere on the main web site as well (www.jannah.org)

Wassalam
Re: A bizarre query of a child
Arsalan
09/20/00 at 16:03:51
Assalamu alaikum,
[quote]I teach Sirah, so a lot of people would argue there is no room for reflection.  This is simply history/facts etc. But I think that is VERY VERY wrong.  There is soooooooooo much to think about when we study the Prophet/Khalifas/Sahaba that I run out of time talking about it!  
[/quote]
True.  Actually I saw a really good book at ISNA called "Fiqh-us-Seerah" I think by Ghazali.  It's a more what-lesson-do-we-get-from-this-incident type of book.  It applies everything in the sirah to your life.  So seerah becomes more than just history.  It becomes your model, which is what it's supposed to be.

Unfortunately I couldn't buy the book.  Ran out of money :(

Wassalamu alaikum.


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