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| bhaloo |
| 10/02/00 at 17:10:46 |
| slm I have to speak before some relatives this Sunday, because a family member died over seas. They are going to be reading some Quran and want me to say something, DAWAH OPPORTUNITY, and want me to make duaa. So any suggestions? Anything at all? I've done this before but I want some fresh material and ideas so it doesn't like the same old thing. Some of them don't even pray, so this would be a good opportunity to do dawah. Thanks. |
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| MuSLiMa |
| 10/03/00 at 06:32:27 |
| wOw .. tough job u got there ... well i dunno what u say every other time so i'm sorry if i'm giving any suggestions in case "u've been there and done that" ... so, what DO you usually say? as for reading Quran, is this done with the intention of benefitting the deceased?? cause as far as i know there is no real benefit in that and is kind of a bid'ah or innovation ... like with reading surat yaseen ... Allah knows best well i guess it's good to talk about death in itself in such a circumstance ... i noticed that u usually use much daleel from the Quran or Ahadeeth to support what u want to say in some posts, so use some of that and then go into detail about it ... for example the hadith about when a person dies 3 things follow him to the grave, his family, his wealth and his deeds, but two of them go back, his family and wealth and only the deeds remain ... so highlight how important it is to do good deeds and then flow into how part of this includes Salaah/Prayer ... my brother was telling me the other day that if you pass the prayer question once u are dead then u go on to the rest of the test, otherwise u just kinda fail and are doomed ... i think i read the hadith on that but not sure where it is ... go on to talk about the janazaah salah and if one doesn't even do the daily 5 time prayer then how do they expect Allah to accept their prayer for the deceased whom they supposedly love so much? Go through this prayer with them and the steps involved in the 4 takbirs etc ... some guyz from Saudi discussed death on their last visit so if you want i can post u out some of my notes on death and the prayer and how to bury them etc ... also, go on to say about the things which benefit the deceased, ie, a charity which keeps benefitting ppl or a book they may have written and ppl are still benefitting from it once they are gone ... emphasise that pious children who make dua for their deceased parents are a benefit to their parents, and part of becoming pious is the prayer and being in the position of "sujood" is a great closeness to Allah and making dua then ... i think definitely focus on prayer and death itself, even if you have repeated it in the past keep at it insha-Allah ... i mean all the prophets called to Tawheed for many many many years at a time, but of course they were more patient, but u have to be patient insha-Allah and if Tawheed is set in their hearts then step down to Prayer as that is next on the list insha-Allah i think u should also mention how it is forbidden for the women to visit the graves and quote ahadeeth on this ... whether i've been helpful or not, let us know how it goes insha-Allah and what u intend on talking about :) Assalaamu Alaikum |
| NS |
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| Kathy |
| 10/03/00 at 08:35:55 |
| slm. Are you sure woman are forbidden to visit the graves? Funerals they are- but graves? In my experience, if you are talking to an American audience, it is preferrable to stay away from items that are "forbidden" like the above example. Generally their minds will stop listening to the message and concentrate on the westernized image of the suppressed Muslim woman. As with any speaker- expecially in Dawah, I think it would be best to talk about the positives that Suha has mentioned. The " Oh Believers" that Jannah just posted in another section has a begining that would give your audience a positive outlook. This is a time to remember Allah swt and glorify Him. From where we come to were we go... |
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| widad |
| 10/03/00 at 11:06:16 |
I.The order of following a funeral procession: slm -Narrated Al-Barraa(ibn Azib): Allah's Messenger(sala Allahu alyhi wasalam)ordered us to do seven things and forbade us from doing seven other things.He ordered us to : 1-To follow the funeral procession, 2-To visit the sick, 3-To accept invitations, 4-To help the oppressed, 5-To fulfill the oaths, 6-To return the greetings, 7-To respond to a sneezer(saying "yarhamuka Allah)-may Allah be merciful to you,provided the sneezer says(ALhamdulillah). He forbade us : 1-To use silver utensils and dishes, 2-To wear golden rings, 3-To wear silk clothing, 4-Dibaj(silk cloth), 5-Qassi("" "" ), 6-Istabraq("" ""). (Al-Bukhary). -------------------------------------------- II.Seeing the deceased person after he has been put in his shroud: -Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah(radia Allahu anhuma):When my father was martyred,I lifted the sheet from his face and the people around me forbade me to do so,but the prophet(salaAallahu alyhi wasalam) did not forbid me.Then my Aunt FAtima began weeping and the prophet said:"It is all the same whether you weep or not,The angels were shading him continiuosly with their wings till you shifted him from the (field)."(Bukahry). -------------------------------------------- III.Washing the body of the deceased: -Narrated Umm Atiya Al-Ansariah :Allah's Messenger came to us when his daughter died and said:"Wash her three,five,or more,times with water and sidr(lote tree leaves),if you think it is required,and sprinkle camphor or something of it on her at the end;and when you finish notify me."So when we finished we informed him and he gave us his waist- sheet,and told us to shroud her." (Bukhary). And in another version of the hadeeth the following was added: Narrated Umm Attiya:Allah's Messenger concerning his dead daughter's bath,said:"Start with the right side,and the parts which are washed in ablution."She added we combed her hair and divided it into three braids." -------------------------------------------- IV.White cloth for the shroud: -Narrated Aisha(radia Allahu anha):"Allah's Messenger was shrouded in three Yemeni white (sahulliya)pieces of cotton cloth,and in them was neither a shirt or a turban." -Narrated Ibn Abbass,Whila a man was standing in Arafat(for HAjj)with Allah's Messenger,the man fell from his mount and broke his neck(and he died).The prophet said:"Wash him with water and sidr,and shroud him in two pieces of cloth,and neither perfume him nor cover his head fo he will be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection saying:"Labayka Allahuma Labayk".(Bukhary). -------------------------------------------- V.Women accompanying the funeral procession: -Narrated Umm Atiya,"WE were forbidden to accompany funeral processions,but not strictly." --------------------------------------------- VI.Standing for the funeral procession: -Narrated Amir ibn Rabia,the prophet sala Allahu alyhi wasalam said:"If any one of you sees a funeral procession,and he is not going along with them,then he should stand and remain standing until till he gets behind it or it leaves him behind,or the coffin is put down,before it goes ahead of him."(Bukhary). --------------------------------------------- VII.Salat Al-JAnaza: There are four takbeer in this salat,there is no bowing nor prostrating,it is all done standing: a)After the first takbeer,one should recite suta Al-Fatiha. b)After the second takbeer,one should recite salat ala Annabi(second tashahud in salat ). c)After the third takbeer ,one should invoke Allah for the dead(pray for the dead). d)After the fourth takbeer,we turn to the right and say "Salam alykum warahmatullah". ------------------------------------------------- SUPPLICATION(dua)for the dead in the funeral prayer: -Jubair ibn Nufair said :I heard it from Auf ibn Malik that the prophet (sala Allahu alyhi wasalam) said prayer on the dead body,and I remember the prayer: "O Allah ,forgive him and have mercy opon him,give him peace and absolve him. Receive him with honour and make his grave spacious.Wash him with water,snow and hail,cleanse him from his faults as is cleaned a white garment from impurity.Requit him with an abode more excellent than his abode,with a family better than his,and with a mate better than his mate.Admit him to he Garden.Protect him from the torment of the grave and the torment of the Fire."(Auf bin Malik said : I earnestly desired that I were the dead body.)(Muslim). -A hadeeth like this was narrated with another chain of transmitters. -------------------------------------------------- |
| NS |
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| widad |
| 10/03/00 at 11:08:33 |
I.The order of following a funeral procession: slm -Narrated Al-Barraa(ibn Azib): Allah's Messenger(sala Allahu alyhi wasalam)ordered us to do seven things and forbade us from doing seven other things.He ordered us to : 1-To follow the funeral procession, 2-To visit the sick, 3-To accept invitations, 4-To help the oppressed, 5-To fulfill the oaths, 6-To return the greetings, 7-To respond to a sneezer(saying "yarhamuka Allah)-may Allah be merciful to you,provided the sneezer says(ALhamdulillah). He forbade us : 1-To use silver utensils and dishes, 2-To wear golden rings, 3-To wear silk clothing, 4-Dibaj(silk cloth), 5-Qassi("" "" ), 6-Istabraq("" ""). (Al-Bukhary). -------------------------------------------- II.Seeing the deceased person after he has been put in his shroud: -Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah(radia Allahu anhuma):When my father was martyred,I lifted the sheet from his face and the people around me forbade me to do so,but the prophet(salaAallahu alyhi wasalam) did not forbid me.Then my Aunt FAtima began weeping and the prophet said:"It is all the same whether you weep or not,The angels were shading him continiuosly with their wings till you shifted him from the (field)."(Bukahry). -------------------------------------------- III.Washing the body of the deceased: -Narrated Umm Atiya Al-Ansariah :Allah's Messenger came to us when his daughter died and said:"Wash her three,five,or more,times with water and sidr(lote tree leaves),if you think it is required,and sprinkle camphor or something of it on her at the end;and when you finish notify me."So when we finished we informed him and he gave us his waist- sheet,and told us to shroud her." (Bukhary). And in another version of the hadeeth the following was added: Narrated Umm Attiya:Allah's Messenger concerning his dead daughter's bath,said:"Start with the right side,and the parts which are washed in ablution."She added we combed her hair and divided it into three braids." -------------------------------------------- IV.White cloth for the shroud: -Narrated Aisha(radia Allahu anha):"Allah's Messenger was shrouded in three Yemeni white (sahulliya)pieces of cotton cloth,and in them was neither a shirt or a turban." -Narrated Ibn Abbass,Whila a man was standing in Arafat(for HAjj)with Allah's Messenger,the man fell from his mount and broke his neck(and he died).The prophet said:"Wash him with water and sidr,and shroud him in two pieces of cloth,and neither perfume him nor cover his head fo he will be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection saying:"Labayka Allahuma Labayk".(Bukhary). -------------------------------------------- V.Women accompanying the funeral procession: -Narrated Umm Atiya,"WE were forbidden to accompany funeral processions,but not strictly." --------------------------------------------- VI.Standing for the funeral procession: -Narrated Amir ibn Rabia,the prophet sala Allahu alyhi wasalam said:"If any one of you sees a funeral procession,and he is not going along with them,then he should stand and remain standing until till he gets behind it or it leaves him behind,or the coffin is put down,before it goes ahead of him."(Bukhary). --------------------------------------------- VII.Salat Al-JAnaza: There are four takbeer in this salat,there is no bowing nor prostrating,it is all done standing: a)After the first takbeer,one should recite suta Al-Fatiha. b)After the second takbeer,one should recite salat ala Annabi(second tashahud in salat ). c)After the third takbeer ,one should invoke Allah for the dead(pray for the dead). d)After the fourth takbeer,we turn to the right and say "Salam alykum warahmatullah". ------------------------------------------------- SUPPLICATION(dua)for the dead in the funeral prayer: -Jubair ibn Nufair said :I heard it from Auf ibn Malik that the prophet (sala Allahu alyhi wasalam) said prayer on the dead body,and I remember the prayer: "O Allah ,forgive him and have mercy opon him,give him peace and absolve him. Receive him with honour and make his grave spacious.Wash him with water,snow and hail,cleanse him from his faults as is cleaned a white garment from impurity.Requit him with an abode more excellent than his abode,with a family better than his,and with a mate better than his mate.Admit him to he Garden.Protect him from the torment of the grave and the torment of the Fire."(Auf bin Malik said : I earnestly desired that I were the dead body.)(Muslim). -A hadeeth like this was narrated with another chain of transmitters. -------------------------------------------------- |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/03/00 at 11:30:52 |
| slm As I mentioned the funeral was in Pakistan. On the last message board I mentioned how I participated in the washing of a body and prepared it for the funeral. The details of preforming the funeral prayers and washing the body, and how to cover the body, are in detail in a book that is scanned up on my website under the prayer section if anyone wants to see it. Usually when I do speak at these types of things I try and make mention of things that benifit the deceased. Many scholars are of the opinion that reciting the Quran does benifit the deceased, insha'Allah I'll show the proof for that in the next post. I do also mention about the questioning in the grave and how we will be asked about our prayers. |
| Deeds that Benifit the Departed Soul |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/03/00 at 11:31:48 |
| slm This is from Fiqh us Sunnah volume 4 number 86 The Deeds that Benefit the Departed Souls and Proffering Reward for Good Deeds to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) There is consensus that a deceased person benefits from all good deeds for which he or she in his or her life might have been a cause. Abu Hurairah reported, "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'When a person dies all his good deeds cease except for three: a continuous act of charity, beneficial knowledge, and a righteous son who prays for him'.'' (Muslim, and the Sunan) Also Abu Hurairah reported, "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'The righteous works that continue to benefit a believer after his death include the knowledge that he taught and spread among others, a righteous son whom he leaves behind, or a copy of the Qur'an that he bequeaths to his inheritors, or a mosque that he builds, or a rest house that he builds for the wayfarers, or a canal of water that he digs for the benefit of others, or a charity that he gives out of his property during his life while he is sound of health. He will continue to receive reward for all these even after his death.' (Ibn Majah) Jarir ibn Abdallah reported: "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said: 'Whoever introduces a good practice in Islam will get its reward and the rewards for all those who follow these practices after him, without any loss to their reward. And whoever introduces a bad practice in Islam will acquire its sin and the sins of all those who practice it, without any decrease in their sins." An account of the righteous deeds performed by others that continue to be beneficial to the deceased is given in detail below: 2. Charity. An-Nawawi has recorded that Muslim scholars agree that charity benefits the deceased person and its reward reaches the deceased whether it is given by his or own son or by someone else. This is based on a report from Ahmad, Muslim, and others from Abu Hurairah that, "A man said to the Prophet, peace be upon him, ' My father died leaving wealth but no will. Would he be pardoned if we gave charity on his behalf?' He said: 'Yes."' It is also reported from Al-Hasan from Sa'd ibn 'Ubadah that "his mother died and he said, 'O Messenger of Allah, my mother has died. Should I give charity on her behalf?' He said: 'Yes.' I said: 'What is the best charity?' He said, 'Offering people a drink of water'." Al-Hasan said: "This is the drinking place of the family of Sa'd in Madinah." This is reported by Ahmad, Nasa'i, and others. Giving charity in the graveyard is not permissible and giving it during the funeral is disliked. 3. Fasting. This is based on a report by Bukhari and Muslim from Ibn 'Abbas who said, "A man came to the Prophet, peace be upon him, and said, 'My mother has died without making up for a missed month of fasting. Can I fast on her behalf? ' The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, ' Would you pay her debt if she owed someone?' The man said, 'Yes.' The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'Allah is more deserving of payment in settlement of His debt'." 4. Performing the Pilgrimage (Hajj). This is based on a report by Bukhari from Ibn 'Abbas that "a woman of the Juhainah tribe came to the Prophet, peace be upon him, and said, 'My mother had vowed to perform pilgrimage, but she died before she could fulfill her vow. Should I do it on her behalf?' The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'Yes. Perform Hajj on her behalf. Would you not pay the debt of your mother if she had owed someone? Fulfill it. Allah is more deserving of receiving payment for what is due to Him'." 5. Prayer (salah). This is based on a report by Ad-Darqutni who said that "a man asked, 'O Allah's Messenger! I had parents whom I served while they lived. How can I be good to them after their death? ' The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'Verily, among the good deeds that you can do after their death is to offer prayer (salah) for them when you pray for yourself and to fast for them when you fast for yourself'." 6. Recitation of the Qur'an. This is beneficial to the deceased according to the opinion of the majority of the scholars among the ahl al-sunnah. An-Nawawi said, "The most well-known position of the Shafi'i school is that this does not benefit the deceased." Ahmad ibn Hanbal and a group of Shafi' i scholars hold that it does benefit the deceased . The reciter has an option. He may supplicate for the deceased to be rewarded for the recitation, saying: "O Allah! Grant the reward of what I recited to so-and-so." Ibn Qudamah in al-Mughni stated, "Ahmad ibn Hanbal said, 'The deceased will receive the reward for every good done on his behalf. This is proved by textual evidence found on this subject. The fact that Muslims in every city gather to recite the Qur'an for the benefit of the deceased and that they have been doing so without any disagreement or disapproval show that there is consensus on this subject'." Those who hold that the deceased benefits by the recitation of others make it conditional upon the reciter not to accept any payment for his recitation. If the reciter is paid for reciting, it is unlawful for both the giver and the receiver, and he shall have no reward for his reciting. Abd Ar Rahman ibn Shibl reported that the Prophet, peace be upon him, said, "Recite the Qur'an, and do good deeds .... Do not neglect it, nor be extreme in it. Do not make it a means of living nor a source of your wealth.'' (Reported by Ahmad, At-Tabarani, and Al-Baihaqi) Ibn al-Qayyim said, "Worship is of two types: financial and physical. The Prophet, peace be upon him, has informed us that because charity (sadaqah) benefits the deceased, all other acts of charity will also benefit the deceased, and that because fasting on his behalf benefits the deceased, all other physical acts of worship will likewise benefit the deceased. Similarly the Prophet, peace be upon him, informed us that the reward of making Hajj, which involves both physical and financial sacrifice, does indeed benefit the deceased. Thus these three types of beneficial acts of worship are supported by both the revealed texts and reason." |
| Can women visit graves? |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/03/00 at 11:32:47 |
| slm Fiqh us Sunnah volume 4 number 85 Fiqh-us-Sunnah Fiqh 4.85 Can Women Visit Graves Imam Malik and some Hanafi scholars, and, according to one report from Ahmad, most of the scholars hold it permissible for women to visit graves. This is based on the following hadith from 'Aishah, "What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah when visiting graves?" As mentioned above Abdallah ibn Abi Mulaikah is also reported to have said, "Once 'Aishah returned after visiting the graveyard. I asked, 'O Mother of the Believers, where have you been?' She said: 'I went out to visit the grave of my brother Abd ar-Rahman.' I asked her: 'Didn't the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, prohibit visiting graves?' She said, 'Yes, he did forbid visiting graves during the early days, but later on he ordered us to visit them'." This is reported by Al-Hakim and Al-Baihaqi, who also remarked that this hadith was narrated only by Bistam bin Muslim al-Basri. Adh-Dhahabi said that it is a sound hadith. Anas reported: "The Prophet, peace be upon him, saw a woman crying by the grave of her son, and said to her, 'Fear Allah, and be patient.' She replied, 'What do you care about my tragedy?' When he went away, someone told her, 'Indeed, that was the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him. ' The woman felt extremely sorry and she immediately went to the Prophet's house, where she did not find any guards. She called out: 'O Messenger of Allah! I did not recognize you.' The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'Verily patience is needed at the time of the first affiction'.'' (Bukhari and Muslim) This supports the argument in favor of the permissibility of women visiting graves, for the Prophet, peace be upon him, saw her at the grave and did not show his disapproval of it. The purpose of visiting graves is to remember the Hereafter, which is something that both men and women need. Men are by no means more in need of this reminder than women. Some scholars disliked it for women to visit graves as they are less patient and too emotional. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, "May Allah curse the women who are frequent visitors of the graves." (Reported by Ahmad, Ibn Majah, and Tirmidhi, who said that it is a sound hadith) Al-Qurtubi said: "The curse mentioned in this hadith applies only to those women who visit graves frequently. The reason for this curse lies perhaps in the fact that it involves infringement of the rights of the husband, and leads to adornment and exhibition of their beauty to strangers, and shouting, yelling, and other similar things." It may be said that, "If no such harm is feared from women visiting graves, then there is no valid reason for preventing them from visiting graves, for indeed remembrance of death is something that both men and women equally need." Commenting on Al-Qurtubi's view, Ash-Shawkani said, "This statement may form the basis for reconciling apparently contradictory hadith." |
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| Arsalan |
| 10/03/00 at 14:31:24 |
| Assalamu alaikum, Jazak Allahu khairan Arshad. Now tell me this, you didn't type all that up did you?? Where did you get the text of Fiqh us Sunnah on the net? Regarding the recitation of the Qur'an for the deceased, I just have one comment. I think the ruling only applies to an individual carrying out the act on his own, and praying to Allah that He gives its reward to the deceased. However, congregational recitations of the Qur'an (Qur'an khwaanis) in which people get together to each recite one juz and then pray to Allah to transfer its reward to the deceased - this act is a bid'ah according to what I have heard from the scholars. Wallahu a'lam. Having said all this, I have one question: Aren't all of us in dire need of all the good deeds that we can reap? If that is the case, then why would anyone recite the Qur'an or perform Hajj or do fasting and give away the reward to someone else? Can someone please explain this concept to me? I understand that the deceased may be a very close relative and someone very dear. But still! Eternity is too precious to take a risk upon! |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/03/00 at 16:02:55 |
| slm Arsalan, to answer your question with regards to why would someone do deeds for one that is deceased, consider this case from Fiqh us Sunnah for the one that dies without preforming Hajj. Fiqh-us-Sunnah Fiqh 5.12a He Who Dies Without Performing Obligatory Hajj If a person dies before performing obligatory Hajj or if one vowed to perform Hajj but died before fulfilling one' s vow, his heir must assign someone to perform Hajj on behalf of the deceased. All the ensuing expenses in this regard must be paid out of the deceased's property, as indeed must be any debts left by him. Ibn 'Abbas narrates that a woman from the tribe of Johainah came to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: "My mother had vowed to perform Hajj but she died before fulfilling her vow, should I perform Hajj on her behalf? The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Yes, perform Hajj on her behalf. Would you not pay off any debts your mother might have left behind upon her death? Pay off what you owe to Allah, for He is most deserving of settlement of His debt." (Bukhari) This hadith underlines the obligation of performing Hajj on behalf of a deceased person, whether or not he leaves a will to this effect (it is a kind of debt for the deceased), and all debts left by the deceased must be settled, just as all other financial obligations such as zakah, an atonement or a vow transacted by the deceased has to be fulfilled. Ibn 'Abbas, Zaid bin Thabit, Abu Hurairah, and Ash-Shafi'i hold this opinion. They consider that the expenses of the substitute (the hired person) must be paid out of the wealth of the deceased before dividing it up among his heirs. In case the wealth is insufficient to cover both the cost of Hajj (by the substitute) and settlement of the deceased's debts, the expense of Hajj must be paid first, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Allah is most deserving that His debt be paid back." Imam Malik says: "A person may perform Hajj on behalf of the deceased only if the deceased leaves a will to that effect. If the deceased leaves no such will, then a Hajj on his behalf may not be performed, for this worship involves, more than anything else, physical exertion and struggle and as such, no other person can replace or substitute another person. If a deceased makes a will regarding it, then Hajj may be performed, meeting all its cost from out of one third of the share of his heritage." |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/04/00 at 01:37:17 |
| slm [quote] Regarding the recitation of the Qur'an for the deceased, I just have one comment. I think the ruling only applies to an individual carrying out the act on his own, and praying to Allah that He gives its reward to the deceased. However, congregational recitations of the Qur'an (Qur'an khwaanis) in which people get together to each recite one juz and then pray to Allah to transfer its reward to the deceased - this act is a bid'ah according to what I have heard from the scholars. Wallahu a'lam. [/quote] With regards to this point, Dr. Siddiqi (President of ISNA) was asked if is it permissible to recite the Qur'an and convey its reward (isal thawab) in the dead person's name? Some people claim that the recitation of the Qur'an is not for the dead, but for the living. He responded as such: It is true that the recitation of the Qur'an is for the living people, but living people, after reciting the Qur'an, can pray for themselves and can also pray for their deceased relatives and other Muslims. Conveying the reward of one's good deeds to others or Isal Thawab is recognized by most of the jurists of Islam. The good deeds bring blessings of Allah and we can pray to Allah to convey these blessings to others also. There are many Ahadith on this subject. But reciting the Qur'an on the third day after the death or on the fortieth day etc. is not mentioned in the Qur'an or the Sunnah. It is not necessary to hold the Khatm-e-Qur'an ceremony on the third day. You can do it at any time. There is no sin and nothing wrong if it is not done for a deceased person. ;============== Also Ibn Al-Qayyim in his Kitabar-Ruh mentions in the section "What can one do to rescue the dead person from punishment" this: ... Let us imagine a group of Muslims who have gathered together to remember someone who was dear to them and has died. They are still wearing black and their grief is still fresh. They have gathered for the sake of the love and comradeship that exists between them to remember Allah and to intercede with Him on behalf of their loved one. This gathering might take place anywhere, but let it be the home of one of them. Each of them is holding a copy of the Quran whose recitation they have divided up between themselves. They begin the recitation with the intention of directing its reward to the dead person. This does not diminish the reward that any of them receive in any way, but the reward also reaches the dead person in his grave if Allah (SWT) so wills. There is a reward for both the living and the dead. ...... |
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| se7en |
| 10/04/00 at 16:31:10 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuh, Hmm. You originally asked for suggestions for your talk on death. You can talk about how death is not an annihiliation for us, it's a movement to another phase in our journey. How we will be questioned, ressurrected and held accountable for our deeds. How believing in Yawm al-Akhir is an essential part of being Muslim. There's a hadeeth that says Rasulullah, peace be upon him said, I was sent and the coming of the Day of Judgement are like this (and he held two fingers together). It is coming and every day we're closer to it, but we don't even have to worry about when the Hour is, because we only have to wait until we die. When we die our deeds are closed, no way to go back and change anything we've done, no time to fix all the harm we've caused, to repent for all the wrong we've committed. No way to seek forgiveness. No way to change, because it's too late. You're time's up. Talk about the grave, and how it prepares you for the Day of Judgement. How you taste a little bit of Jannah, or a little bit of Hell. How you are questioned and how you do nothing but either suffer in torment or relax in delight as you wait for the Day. Then we are ressurected. We are collected from our graves. This life, this judgement is real. It is a reality we will all have to face. And that Day will be so scary. It is a Day that in the Qur'an it says, even babies will grow grey hairs. It's a Day like khamseen al fassana - like 50,000 years. We intellectualize all this, talk about it abstractly, but it is true. The Day of Judgement is a reality. Tell them, the only thing standing between you and that Day is your grave. And if you're not preparing for that Day, if you're not working on your self, struggling, fighting you're wasting your time. You're wasting your whole life away because there will come a Day when Allah will force us all to admit the truth, the truth of our own selves and the truth of our sins. And out of Allah's mercy, he's told us what's going to happen. So we can prepare for it. Rasulullah peace be upon him said, everyone will enter Jannah except the one who doesn't want to. The companions asked, ya Rasulullah, who does not want to enter Jannah? And he said, Whoever obeys me will enter Jannah, and whoever does not obey me does not want to. All the struggle and pain we go through here is easy if we think about what's waiting for us. What waits for us there is worth all sacrifices. and Allah the Most Merciful knows best. Ya Allah shade us on the Day there will be no shade but Your shade. Ameen. |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/04/00 at 16:20:40 |
| slm Se7en, that's exactly what I wanted to hear, jazak Allah khairen. Now if only someone would be kind enough to write my speech out for me. ;) |
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| Arsalan |
| 10/04/00 at 17:45:14 |
| Assalamu alaikum, [quote]When we die our deeds are closed, no way to go back and change anything we've done, no time to fix all the harm we've caused, to repent for all the wrong we've committed. No way to seek forgiveness. No way to change, because it's too late. You're time's up. [/quote]The exception to this rule, of course, is the three things mentioned in the famous hadith: A righteous offspring who makes du'aa for you, sadaqah jaariyah and (and what? can't remember). Talk about these. Tell people that they should invest their money, efforts and time into something that will continue after they die. So they will continue to get reward till the Day of Judgment. Teaching others (especially kids) about Islam is a great way! Wassalamu alaikum. |
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| se7en |
| 02/05/01 at 18:52:01 |
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuh, Check it out: The Prophet, peace be upon him, said: "When a human being dies, all his (or her) actions come to an end, except in one of three ways: A continuing act of charity, or a useful contribution to knowledge, or a dutiful child who prays to God for him." Translated another way: "When a man dies, his work stops, except three: his acts of charity which are continued by his family members; his knowledge by which the living may benefit, and his pious issue (offspring) who pray for him." Jazak Allahu khayran for correcting me bro. wasalaam. |
| NS |
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| Asim |
| 02/05/01 at 23:54:02 |
| Assalaamu alaikum, [quote]Where did you get the text of Fiqh us Sunnah on the net?[/quote] This thread is kinda old but here are two links for Fiqh us-Sunnah. http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/lawbase/fiqh_us_sunnah/ http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/ Wasalaam. |
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| Sara |
| 02/06/01 at 09:24:21 |
| Assalam, Since we are on this topic: Someone told me that Muslims are allowed to be buried??? Like 6 feet under. Can someone explain this to me? |
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