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| [MADRASA] Sunnah salats??, Definition of Sunnah |
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| mahsou411 |
| 07/09/01 at 01:33:34 |
| As Salaam Alaikum, Guess what? I have yet another question. I have heard/read different things about the sunnah salats. First, what is the difference between sunnah and nafilah? And could someone give me the amount of sunnah before and after each fard? I have heard more than one thing particularly when it comes to Asr and Isha. Lastly, when there are four rakat offered as sunnah, do you do the rakah all together or two at a time? In other words do you do the first two and end the salat and then start over and do the next two? If anyone has the time to respond, it would be helpful to me. I am really trying to increase my salats and my blessings insh'Allah. I will try and stop asking so many questions, I know you all must be tired of me by now:) JAzakallah Khairun As Salaam ALaikum Warahmatullah |
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| Arsalan |
| 10/09/00 at 20:37:28 |
| Assalamu alaikum, Here's the sunan from the most authentic narrations: # of rak'ahs of sunnah: ----------------------- 2 before Fajr 4 before Dhuhr 2 after Dhuhr 4 before Asr 2 after Maghrib 4 before Isha 2 after Isha This brings the total to 20. There is also one narration which states 2 rak'ahs before Maghrib, but I'm not sure about its authenticity. Once again, if you need the exact sources, ask me. I don't have them at the moment otherwise I would cite them. Wassalamu alaikum. P.S. All 4 rak'ahs mentioned above are to be prayed with one tasleem only. P.P.S. These are sunan, i.e. prayers that Rasulullah (pbuh) offered regularly. Nafilah are anything extra other than these, the faraa'id, the witr, and the other sunan prayers (such as the prayer for rain, etc). Wallahu a'lam. |
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| mahsou411 |
| 10/09/00 at 22:40:55 |
| As Salaam Alaikum. As always Arsalan is on the ball witht he answer to my questions:) Jazakallah Khiarun once again! Salaam, Aminah |
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| Kashif |
| 10/10/00 at 05:09:15 |
| assalaamu alaikum Not just for the sake of disagreeing, the list i've learnt is quite different. And mainly this is gleaned from a book on prayer by M.A.K. Saqib. I can't remember its title as i gave it away a while ago. Anyhow, the list i have is: 2 before Fajr 4 before Zuhr 2 after Zuhr 2 After Maghrib 2 After Isha This brings the total to 12 - which is in sync with the exhortation to pray 12 sunan each day for a palace in Paradise. As regards the sunan of before the fard of Asr and Isha, if i remember correctly there isn't evidence for these. There is also an opinion held by some scholars that even the sunan prayers should be prayed in units of two. Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/10/00 at 11:20:49 |
| slm Regarding the 4 sunnah prayers before Asr, Fiqh-us-Sunnah mentioned it here: Fiqh-us-Sunnah Fiqh 2.10b Two or four rak'at before 'asr Many ahadith have been related about this sunnah prayer and they all support each other. Such hadith include the following: Ibn 'Umar reports that the Prophet said: "May Allah have mercy on a person who prays four rak'at before 'asr prayer." This was related by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidhi (who calls it hasan), Ibn Hibban, and Ibn Khuzaimah. The latter two hold it as sahih. 'Ali reports that the Prophet sallallahu alehi wasallam prayed four rak'at before 'asr while separating every two sets of rak'at with salutations to the angels close to Allah, to the prophets, and to those who followed them - the believers and Muslims. This is related by Ahmad, an-Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, and atTirmidhi who grades it hasan. As for praying only two rak'af at this time, this would fall under the generality of the Prophet's statement: "Between every adhan and iqamah there is a prayer." ;---------- Regarding the hadith about having a place in paradise for praying 12 rakats, this was the reference: Umm Habibah bint Abu Sufyan reports that the Messenger of Allah said: "Whoever prays twelve rak'at during the day and night will have a house built for him in paradise: four rak'at before zuhr and two after it, two rak'at after maghrib, two rak'at after 'isha, and two rak'at before fajr." This is related by at-Tirmidhi who called it hasan sahih. Muslim reports it briefly. |
| NS |
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| abc |
| 10/10/00 at 11:23:50 |
| Assalamalaikum wa rahmatullah OK here's what I know, though you may want to ask a more learned person. The 12 rakats Kashif mentioned are what is known as Sunnah Mu'akkadah. These salahs are what our prophet pbuh prayed on a regular basis, besides the fard. The four before Asr and the four before Isha are also sunnahs in the sense that our prophet(pbuh) prayed them but he did not do so all the time. It is recommended that one pray the Sunnah muakkadah, for though the obligation of salah is fulfilled with just the fard, these prayers will make up for any deficit in the fard insha'Allah. Hope that helped. wasalam abc |
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| assing |
| 10/10/00 at 11:41:33 |
Al Sunnan Al Rawatib (Sunnah Prayers associated with Fardh Prayers) Aas-salamu-alai-kum: What is the structure of the obligatory prayers? For example for Fajr prayers, are there two Farz rakats and two sunnat. Similarly for Zuhr, are there 4 farz and 2 sunnat. For Ashr, are there 4 farz and 2 sunnat; for Magribh are there 3 farz rakat and 2 sunnat. Lastly, for Isha are there 4 farz and 2 sunnat? Am I correct in my assumption and if not would you kindly let me know to the correct structure? Praise be to Allah; The answer to your question is a Hadith by the Prophet (May peace and blessings be upon him) in which he said: "Allaah will build a house in Heaven for whoever is diligent in observing 12 Sunnah Rak'aat (as follows): 4 Rak'aat before and 2 after the Dhuhr (Midday) Prayer, 2 after the Maghrib (Sunset Prayer), 2 after the ‘Ishaa’ (Evening) Prayer and 2 before the Fajr (Dawn) Prayer." Hadith sahih narrated by at-Tirmidhi No. 379 and by others. Hadith No. 6183 in Sahih al-Jaami’. ‘Anbasah ibn Abi Sufyan quoted Umm Habibah as saying "Allaah’s Messenger (May peace and blessings be upon him) said: "A house will be built in Heaven for one who prays 12 Rak'aat in a day and evening as follows: 4 Rak'aat before and 2 after the Dhuhr Prayer, 2 after the Maghrib Prayer, 2 after the ‘Ishaa’ Prayer and 2 before the Fajr Prayer." Narrated by at-Tirmizi under No. 380. He said: The Hadith narrated by ‘Anbasah quoting Umm Habibah in this chapter is a hassan and sahih hadith. It is under No. 6362 in Sahih al-Jaami’. The ‘Asr (Late-Afternoon) Prayer has no routine Sunnah (basic recommended voluntary prayer). However, it is mustahab (preferable and recommended) that one prays 4 Rak'aat before the ‘Asr Prayer. The 4 Rak'ahs are of less reward and significance in importance of adhering to them compared to the "sunnan al-rawaatib" described above. The 4 Rak'ahs are the ones intended by the Prophet (May peace and blessings be upon him) in saying: "May Allaah have mercy on one who prays 4 raka’aat before the ‘Asr Prayer." Narrated by at-Tirmidhi no. 395 and he declared it a hassan and ghareeb Hadith. Al-Albany rated the Hadith as hassan in Sahih al-Jami’ No. 3493. All the foregoing 4-Rak'ah voluntary prayers are to be prayed two at a time according to Imam ash-Shafi’i and Imam Ahmad. Allaah, the Exalted, knows best. (islam-qa.com) |
| NS |
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| mahsou411 |
| 10/10/00 at 13:22:21 |
| As Salaam ALaikum, Ok so lemme get this straight. 2 before Fajr 4 before Dhuhr 2 after Dhuhr 2 after Maghrib 2 after Isha -Extra ones could be 4 before Asr if desired. -Always pray in sets of two (which means you do two rakat then end with salaams and then do two rakat and end with salaams) So there is none before Isha at all?? Even as extra like before Asr?? Am I on the right track here?? Aminah |
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| Learner |
| 10/11/00 at 03:16:53 |
| Assalaamu alaikum [quote]So there is none before Isha at all?? Even as extra like before Asr??[/quote] As mentioned earlier on in the thread there IS the 4 rak'ah before Isha (like the 4 before 'Asr) [quote]-Always pray in sets of two (which means you do two rakat then end with salaams and then do two rakat and end with salaams)[/quote] Here, there lies differences of opinion. The most well known opinion amongst the scholars is that you should pray the 4 raka'ats before Dhur, 'Asr and 'Isha in one set i.e. with one salaam at the end. And Allah knows best. I hope the above clarifies the issue more rather than confusing it further. Wassalaam |
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| Ikrima |
| 10/12/00 at 01:12:56 |
| Assalaamu alaikum, I have a different question. Regarding the sunnah prayer, must one move to a different spot after they finish their Fard prayer. I have some idea, but am not quite sure, and would rather hear from someone who knows for sure, if there is a definite answer. Wassalaam. |
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| Learner |
| 10/12/00 at 12:31:44 |
| Assalaamu alaikum [quote]must one move to a different spot after they finish their Fard prayer.[/quote] I think it was Bilal Philips who, in one of his talks, said that it wasn't necessary to move after the fardh prayer. However there is a hadith in Abu Dawood stating the virtues of doing sajdah in different places as that place will be a witness for you on the day of judgement. The reply to your question of 'must one...?' (must indicating thatif it is wajib) would therefore be in the negative unless there is proof to say so otherwise. And Allah knows best. Wassalaam. |
| NS |
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| assing |
| 10/13/00 at 08:35:07 |
| Alhamdulillah, going back to the sisters' original question, before the differentiation can be made, it will make things much clearer if the meaning of "sunnah" and its usage's are first defined, as you probably know the word "sunnah" means a "tariqah" -- path, way - good or bad. However the word "sunnah" can have a number of meanings depending on how it is used. Whenever "sunnah" is used by the scholars of hadeeth it refers to what has been attributed to the prophet (saw) from his statements, actions, approvals, physical and personal characteristics. Then the "sunnah" with the scholars of usool ul-fiqh -- principles of fiqh (usooliyoon) refers to the source of legislation that comes from the rasul (saw) actions, words and approvals that is different from Allah's' words; the Quran. Then you have the sunnah when mention in the context of aqeedah with refers to that which opposes innovation (bidah) as in the hadeeth of Irbaad ibn Samit "One day the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) led us in prayer, then faced us and gave us a lengthy exhortation at which the eyes shed tears and the hearts trembled. A man said: Apostle of Allah! It seems as if it were a farewell exhortation, so what injunction do you give us? He then said: I enjoin you to fear Allah, and to hear and obey even if it be an Abyssinian slave, for those of you who live after me will see great disagreement. Stick to my sunnah and that of the rightly-guided caliphs. Hold to it and stick fast to it. Avoid newly invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is a straying." (Abu Dawud) Finally, you have the "sunnah" as used by the scholars of fiqh {as the question indicated} to mean that which is not wajib, i.e., that deed if one does it seeking Allah's' pleasure, he is rewarded, if he leaves it of there is no sin on him. As for "nafilah" this comes from the word "nafl" which means extra or bonus, this is why the spoils of war is called "anfaal" {plural of nafl} as in the name of the 10 surah, but the plural of "nafilah" is called "nawafil" which is basically the same as "sunnah salat'" when mentioned in this context. lastly, the actual nos. of rakaats the rasul (saw) always performed when he was not travelling is 10 as ibn Umar said "the rasul (saw) would never leave off 10 rak'at; 2 before dhurh, 2 after it, 2 raka't after maghrib in his house, 2 raka't after isha' in his house and 2 raka't before salat fajr" (saheeh, narrated by Ahmad). And no doubt, the stronger oppinion is that when one decides to make the 4 rak'at sunnah, one separates the 4 raka't by tasleem after the two rakat, and the daleel for this is the authentic hadeeth in Bukhari, Muslim and At-Tirmidhee of rasul (saw) "the day prayer is two and two", this is also the opinion of the scholars of hadeeth such as imam At-Tirmidhee, Abu Dawud, ibn Hajr Al-Asqalani, imam Ahmad and others. and Allah knows best. |
| NS |
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| mahsou411 |
| 10/17/00 at 11:23:26 |
| Jazakhallah Khairun! That was EXTREMELY helpful Hisham!!!!! |
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