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IP Address removal
proudtobemuslim
10/10/00 at 09:05:27
slm

I've heard many things about the dangers of revealing your IP address to someone... It's not that I don't trust the people on this board or anything... ON THE CONTRARY... rather this is the Internet and i get a bit worried if anyone can get to see my ip address.

Also, don't you think that it would be more practical to have "w-l-m" to stand for Wassalam-u-Alaikum rather than Walaikum us Salam?

Wassalam-u-Alaikum
Uzer
Re: IP Address removal
jannah
10/10/00 at 21:22:28
Anything you connect to on the internet will have your IP. This board does display ip numbers. The worst hackers can do is if you have security leaks break into your machine if you have a static ip that is a server. But if you just login with dynamic ip's or public machines you shouldn't worry about it.

Someone may wish to research the issue a bit more to see if there is a real risk.

About the wlm it's just an abbreviation, we could use wsl or wal or something.
Re: IP Address removal
proudtobemuslim
10/11/00 at 07:46:36
[quote]
About the wlm it's just an abbreviation, we could use wsl or wal or something.
[/quote]

I don't think you understood what i meant.  I understand that it is an abbreviation, but when you type it "wlm" comes up... i just thought that i personally use Wassalam-u-Alaikum (at the end of my post) rather than wlm so maybe if those 3 letters stood for Wassalam-u-Alaikum , it may be more convenient.  It doesn't really matter any way... small thing

Wassalam-u-Alaikum
Re: IP Address removal
Arsalan
10/11/00 at 09:42:12
Wa'alaikum assalam proud,

Sometimes we use "wa'alaikum assalam" at the beginning of the posts too.  I guess both forms are used.  Maybe both can have their own abbreviations!

But then again, I would rather type the whole thing than an abbreviation.  Perhaps this would tip the scales for me on yaum-ul-qiyaamah ... who knows!  Gotta reap all the reward I can put my hands on!!

Wassalam.
Re: IP Address removal
Kashif
10/11/00 at 11:02:01
Arsalan, Ibn al-Qayyim actually forbade people to abbreviate such words when writing (e.g. sallallahu alaihi wa sallam as 'saw' (or letter 'saad' in arabic)).

To add to this, i think you can see this having a negative effect in people when they meet for real - e.g. u hear people greeting you saying "salaams" instead of assalaamu alaikum.

When i'm writing i type the whole thing out the first time and then stop typing it at all afterwards.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: IP Address removal
Arsalan
10/11/00 at 14:19:55
Assalamu alaikum,

Well, as far as "sallallahu alayhi wasallam" is concerned, it's interesting to note that you will not find the phrase in most of the old Islamic literature.  The scholars of the old times simply didn't bother filling up their writings with "sallallahu alayhi wasallam".  They usually wrote "Rasulullah" or "Muhammad" etc, without the salutations following them.  The reason for this is that it was expected from both the writer and the reader to send prayers on Rasulullah upon coming across his name.  

So it is not necessary to write the salutation, but only to say it in your heart or on your tongue.

Wallahu a'lam.

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: IP Address removal
saifullah
10/18/00 at 16:20:05
"I've heard many things about the dangers of revealing your IP address to someone"

well uzer, as jannah said, there isnt much of a risk if you have a dial up connection, or a cable modem, since each time you dial up and go online, or each time you restart your computer (in temrs of some cable modems) your ip address is dynamically givcen to you, most likely difft from what it was before.

If you are using windows, and have file sharing enabled, there is a slight risk for those few hours your online. but its reall ynothig to wrorry about for most people.

If you are using any type of unix, there may be more of a danger, and if you want to secure yourself, should consult security websites, etc...
SO uzer , waht im sayin is.. dont worry abaat itt....

-AYan
Re: IP Address removal
proudtobemuslim
10/20/00 at 11:22:23
Assalam-u-Alaikum

Right, thanks a lot guys... i appreciate the input.  I think im just paranoid or something!

Wassalam-u-Alaikum
Uzer
Re: IP Address removal
Arsalan
10/20/00 at 12:42:54
Assalamu alaikum,
[quote]I think im just paranoid or something![/quote]You should be!  You're in Karachi - the haven of hackers, and all kinds of other crazy people!! :)

Wassalamu alaikum.
- A Karachiite
Re: IP Address removal
hermit
11/16/00 at 01:23:23
Assalam-u-Alaikum,
 Don't worry at least it's not your computer :)
 
Re: IP Address removal
jannah
02/24/01 at 01:45:09
[slm],

just wanted to address this issue again (no pun intended hah):

an ip is a computerized number assigned to you for the session you are logged in. so if someone logs into their isp=internet service provider (aol, localnet, road runner, compuserve, prodigy, sprint, attsomethingworld) you are assigned a number (ip) dynamically for as long as you are online. ip's are numbers that can also be converted to letters. an ip like 784.838.30 can be converted to 784.aol.com etc. the most information that it reveals is your isp.

some people are assigned permanent ip numbers, like if they have a server or a website, but not the casual internet user.

ip's can be used to track you true, but only in places where it recorded your ip for when you were online, like when you surf websites or when you post to the board.

access to this is mostly by server administrator type people who have access to their server logs. remember an ip is just a computerized number assigned to your computer for the session you are logged in.

the reason why the ips are there at the top of posts is just to verify in a sense that that is really you posting and maybe if you are using a localized ips where you are. i don't think that endangers anyone.

Now, the whole thing about anonymous posting here. It looks like a cgi madina thing, but it is really just a form that emails us the post. Then one of the administrators logs onto the "Anonymous" account and posts that stuff. The ip that appears for that is one of ours.

Re: IP Address removal
Asim
02/24/01 at 10:44:33
Assalaamu alaikum,

>784.838.30 can be converted to 784.aol.com

Just a little correction. IP addresses are 32-bit numbers usually written in four 8-bit parts separated by dots. Each part can vary from 0 to 255 (784 is not possible :)). Names are given to the numbers by simple hierarchical mapping so that they are easy to remember.

Wasalaam.
Re: IP Address removal
meraj
02/24/01 at 13:20:56
slm,

if you're really worried about internet security, then go for a firewall package, such as norton internet security, or zonealarm. zonealarm is free, and it does a decent job of blocking unauthorized access to your computer from both your computer and the rest of the internet... you can get it from http://www.zonelabs.com .


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