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Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/06/00 at 01:02:00
  Seminar On
       'Marriage, divorce, challenges facing Muslim families'

               D ATE:   Sunday, November 12
               TIME:   11:00 - 5:00pm
               PLACE:  Rensellaer Polytechnic Institute,
                       Center for Industrial Innovation,
                       (CII) Room 3051

Assalaam alaikum,

This coming Sunday there will be a seminar given by Br. Mokhtar on
marriage, divorce and family fiqh in Islam. Bring your notebooks and alot
of questions!!

This is a great opportunity to ask alot of those hard questions we face as
Muslims in north america. ie... who to marry? what if you want to marry
someone against your parents wishes? what to put in your marriage
contract? how to raise your children as good muslims in a non-muslim
society? what to do in case of marital conflicts?....etc etc...!!!    

for more info MM(madina message) me

Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Kashif
11/06/00 at 07:48:06
assalaamu alaikum

Will these be taped?

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/06/00 at 12:16:13
i'm trying to figure out a way to record it directly into real audio
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Asim
11/06/00 at 13:40:37
Assalaamu alaikum,
[quote]i'm trying to figure out a way to record it directly into real audio[/quote]
Great!

You will need a computer, a microphone, and real producer (or even real jukebox)!
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/06/00 at 23:21:57
by the way if you non albanyians would like some hard questions answered post them here!!! and we'll try to ask brother mokhtar during the seminar inshallah!
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/06/00 at 23:23:09
We were so tempted to write center for industrial bidah :) :)

but didn't think too many older muslims would find that humorous !!
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Learner
11/07/00 at 16:43:19
[quote]We were so tempted to write center for industrial bidah[/quote]

LOL  :D

Atleast I found it very funny!
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/12/00 at 19:44:01
Someone asked that this question be asked to Br. Mokhtar.

I thought I'd post the answer here for everyone's benefit:

[color=purple]QUESTION: Is a sister responsible if she refuses to marry a brother and he sins after that?


[color=green]ANSWER: What i understood is that Br. Mokhtar said something to the effect that no one can take on another person's sin, the evidence for this is the ayah that says "No bearer of burdens may burden another" (which I believe is in Surah baqarah?), but she is responsible to Allah if she refused him for no good reason ie he was a really good muttaqi, pious Allah-fearing brother and she had no real reason to refuse. and Allah knows best
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/12/00 at 19:48:07
btw the reason i wanted to post this is that it is very important for sisters to understand this. unfortunately i know of sisters who have been pressured by brothers who say 'i'm going to sin if you don't marry me' and sisters who have even been pressured into zinna 'authobillah!! with the guy making them feel guilty etc so please...don't feel guilty for anyone, their sin is their sin and please tell them that.

Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Asim
11/12/00 at 23:50:26
Assalaamu alaikum,

hmmm...interesting...this guilt thing will be a tad different for me. *I* will feel a bit guilty when a sister says *yes* to me rather than no! This may not be the average guy feeling but then I am not an average Joe :)

A brother who sins is a loser. He is hurting himself and no one else, and the sister shouldn't feel guilty. I think this guilt think develops when the two are very close before. This also kind of explains the zinna, which is shocking.

Anyway, Jannah when will you be putting up the recording of the seminar?

Wasalaam.
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/13/00 at 00:09:04
slm,

well unfortunately we had to tape it on cassette tapes and it will take awhile to convert it into real audio. it's quite long so we might only do the beginning or answers to some impt questions. however...he gave me permission to tape it but then when i asked can i put it on my homepage he said 'homepage?! what's a homepage!' so i gotta sit down and explain this to him to see if he'll agree inshallah
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Asim
11/13/00 at 00:17:02
slm

'what's a homepage!' so i gotta sit down and explain this to him to see if he'll agree inshallah

Well, you have got explaining to do :)

Ah well, I guess we will not see the recording soon. :(


Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Arsalan
11/13/00 at 01:40:27
Assalamu alaikum,
[quote]*I* will feel a bit guilty when a sister says *yes* to me rather than no! [/quote]Wow!  Asim, we got something in common.  I feel the same way.  Alhamdulillah, now I know I'm not the only weirdo out there :)  (not that you are one)

Yeah.  If the sister is really good, I would probably feel guilty and undeserving.  Very true.
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
SA
11/13/00 at 09:28:58
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
I'm not sure if I really follow, Asim & Arsalan, you would feel guilty?  If you proposed and a sister said yes?  Esp. if she was "really good"?
That's an interesting concept, if I've assumed correctly, that is.  
Anyways, may Allah grant you all righteous spouses & families, insha'Allah, aameen.
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Asim
11/13/00 at 10:17:37
slm

Wow Arsalan, that is really nice to hear! I thought I was the only "weirdo" out there but subhanallah I'm not alone :) I had second thoughts after I posted that but not any more!

SA: You followed it alright. See if we propose to a sister, and she accepts, we would feel like we have unfairly pulled her, and maybe she could have gotten someone better.

JazakAllah khairan for you duaa.

Wasalaam.
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
bhaloo
11/13/00 at 11:23:46
slm

Jannah, woah, he hasn't seen this webpage, or heard of it?  ???   Scary.
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
11/13/00 at 12:33:47
wlm,

no.. he doesn't know what a homepage is !!!
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
h_m_r00
11/28/00 at 14:18:59
Salaam
Arsalan and Asim...you guys must be exceptional..I mean it:)
                                   Hiyam
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
Malika
01/18/01 at 16:46:24
slm

I know this post awhile ago but did you ever get this on tape Jannah?

When I read it I was waiting...

Jannah I'm still waiting....... :)
Re: Marriage,divorce,challenges facing Muslim families
jannah
01/18/01 at 16:50:01
Salam,

Did get it on tape...about 5 of them... It is project #4890483 to get it into real audio and on the site.


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