Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board
| Question about Missionaries |
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| Anonymous |
| 02/13/01 at 22:40:14 |
| I recently read in another email group that Christian Missionaires are actively trying to convert Muslims in Muslim dominated countries to Christianity. They have an active agenda in colleges in the US where they befriend Muslims who are studying abroad- they will help Muslims fiancially with discounts and basically befriend them and slowly convert them. How active is this around the world and in the US? Because the writer said that the Missionaries are trying to convert over 700,000 Muslims in the next ten years in India and other countries. |
| NS |
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| Safiya |
| 02/19/01 at 20:01:55 |
| [slm] is the article called 'christain missionaries sweeping the islamic world' i cant really say how active -cos i dont know but its probably best to assume that its true and happening rappidly that way we can start preparing for it inshallah i know where i live we get the regular christians-'johovas witneses' doing the door to door dawah and they are always at the shopping areas with thier megephone-every weekend- a vulnourable 'muslim' kid i have seen one man give dawah to... couldn't help it i had to intervene...he ovbiously didnt know how to talk sensibily as he started shouting at me and telling me to go away.... can these be called missionaries? or caller to christ?... i call that active.... |
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| Arsalan |
| 02/19/01 at 20:17:54 |
| [slm] Missionaries work very diligently! Since the last two years, we've been having this problem in our da'wah programs on campus. Every time we do an activity, there seems to be a small group of missionaries that attends the program for two reasons - 1. To make contacts with Muslims at the program that don't seem too 'orthodox' and thus seem to be easy targets to the missionaries to work on. 2. To learn about the basic Islamic tenets to help them in the 'dawah' against the naive Muslims. It's annoying, and frustrating. Because these people and their intentions are not obvious at first sight. They seem to be really interested in Islam, and really enthusiastic about meeting Muslims and doing lunch with them, etc. But after 2, 3 meetings you start figuring out what their real agenda is. But by then they have already taken too much of your valuable time, and made too many contacts with naive Muslims who themselves are in need of Islamic da'wah for their own spiritual progression! Anybody else ever faced these problems? How do you deal with it? |
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| Kashif |
| 02/19/01 at 20:24:50 |
| [quote]How do you deal with it? [/quote] You work harder than them in spreading the truth. they work in the name of false gods and being who have no power, and thus, their arguments are flawed. We have the Truth - the Book of Allah, and we should love this Truth and spreading it greater than they love their falsehood and spreading that. Remember that every moment we spend wasting away, the kuffaar are spending billions of pounds & dollars trying to extinguish Islam. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| se7en |
| 02/23/01 at 17:35:07 |
An interesting email I just received about a sister who encountered such people and their tactics.. As salaamu'aleikum Dear Sister This will be a long email, but I feel it necessary to tell everything that happened and what I learned. First I will describe the location so you will understand. This church is very large and well organized (almost 5,000 members and some are very rich. One member donated 1.5 million to their building fund.) The church grounds cover 2 city blocks. They have a day care center, school from pre-school through 8th grade, a theatre for plays and social functions, a library, gym, large computer lab, 100 member choir and an orchestra. This church has 4 services on Sunday to accommodate the number of people going to their services. There is a very large grassy lawn between the church service building and the church school. It was here that the missionaries were located. Tables were set up in a huge U shape. Women were dressed as Muslims and native dress of the women of India. Many additional tables had native foods from Arab countries and India. There were tons of books and phamplets available for people to take to read. Also there were posters with pictures of Muslims and Christians and many showing Muslim women taking off the hijab to go into water to be "baptized" as a "new Christian". Pictures also showed young Muslim girls and boys singing with Christians and some were learning musical instruments. (I felt like I was walking at the outer edges of Hell!) I did not go into the church for the service because the missionaries were all outdoors answering questions of several hundred people at this gathering. I went to the first table where there were large plastic bags available to place the many materials available from the different missionary groups. Without saying anything and my heart racing I walked the entire U shape of tables, stuffing the bag with the phamplets, free books and disks. I just nodded and smiled ( my face felt frozen in this smile). After I finished gathering materials, I began walking back the way I came and I stopped at each table. There I asked the following questions: What do you tell Muslims about the claim that Mohammed is a prophet? He is a prophet that God sent to the people who worshiped idols. He was a great prophet in his time. What is the most frequently said thing that convinces Muslims to convert to Christianity? It is not only what we say but what we do. We become their friends, help build roads, buildings, teach at their schools, bring food and medical supplies to the poor. Many of us are doctors and nurses and this gets us in the doorway with the government people. We love them and love them and love them. We learn their language, we print the Bible in their language, we dress similar to them, we learn to cook their foods. We read the Qur'an (transliteration) and their sunnah and hadith. We find similarities with the Bible and Qur'an and this helps us gain their confidence. Once we have lived with them, helped them, and they feel we are their friends, then we begin slowly talking about Jesus and God's Justice. |
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| chachi |
| 02/23/01 at 19:16:24 |
| Salaam If you want to know how thoroughly crucifixers have attempted to penetrate and destroy muslim culture see the website http://www.bethany-wpc.org it would be great if we could produce material by sheikh ahmed deedat and others in the languages of the people these shaytaans are targetting. anyway recently the crucifixers in our town after having failed to get any muslims to go to their 'oh so cuddly (complete with teddy bears' crucifixer book shop known as the Christian book shop changed the name to a series of anonymous letters and replaced the books in the window with pictures of muslims in hijaab...lol these people apart from being obviously pathetic are also pathetically obvious ...so inshallah some time soon i'm going to go in and also advice loads of tableeghi types to go in and ask them a basic question..all my local islamic bookshops contain videotapes and books of the debates between muslim and christian scholars ..why then are the christians so afraid to display any of these materials? remember 2 things about these shaytaans 1) they will use logic to try to fight you but when using logic you destroy all their defenses they will resort to 'oh but the holy spirit tells me what to do...' remember something about 'they speak naught but their vain desires..'? 2) they have been historically responsible for the worst genocides and mass murders in human history..remember the crusades and cortez are their work..so remind them of what they have done in the past... |
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