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| Question on the Jinn? |
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| bhaloo |
| 02/22/01 at 11:19:30 |
| slm I have come across very little material on the world of the Jinn, I know Dr. Bilal Phillips has a book on this subject, and was wondering if someone came across any other books on this subject? The reason I ask was because someone mentioned that one of the Prophets (as) had a mother whose parents consisted of a human and a jinn. That seemed really odd to me and I hadn't heard of this before. I was wondering if anyone knew about this? |
| NS |
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| Kashif |
| 02/22/01 at 11:34:38 |
| assalaamu alaikum Did the Prophet have a name? I would have thought that if there were a Prophet whose parents had a 'mixed' marriage of that sort, it would have been commonly known. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| bhaloo |
| 02/22/01 at 11:46:07 |
| slm It was either Musa (as) or Noah (as) I forgot which of the two it was now. |
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| Rehana |
| 01/08/02 at 07:43:46 |
| [slm] [color=green][i][sup]sorry brother Arsalan, this is not going to exactly answer your question :) I had some info regarding Jinn and thought I's just add it here. Hope you don't mind :-)[/sup][/color][/i] [color=blue][i]From an email I received..... [/color][/i] [quote][center]Can the Jinn harm us?[/quote][/center] AssalamuAlaikum, Praise be to Allaah. Firstly: We cannot see the Jinn in its real form, the jinn can see but they cannot be seen by us. Al-Shaafa'i said: Whoever is of sound character and claims to have seen the jinn, his testimony is no longer valid, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Verily, he and Qabeeluhu (his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them’ [sup][al-A’raaf 7:27][/sup] Unless he is a Prophet. [sup](Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 2/195, 196)[/sup] Ibn Hazm said: The jinn are real, and they are creatures created by Allaah. Among them are kaafirs and believers. They can see us but we cannot see them. They eat, have children and die. Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings): ‘O you assemble of jinn and Mankind!’ [sup][al-An’aam 6:130][/sup] ‘And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire’ [sup][al-Hijr 15:27][/sup] ‘And of us some are Muslims (who have submitted to Allaah, after listening to this Qur’aan), and of us some are Al Qaasitoon (disbelievers those who have deviated from the Right Path)’. And whosoever has embraced Islam (i.e. has become a Muslim by submitting to Allaah), then such have sought the Right Path. And as for the Qaasitoon (disbelievers who deviated from the Right Path), they shall be firewood for Hell’[sup][al-Jinn 72:14-15][/sup] ‘Verily, he and Qabeeluhu (his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them’[sup][al-A’raaf 7:27][/sup] ‘Will you then take him (Iblees) and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me’[sup][al-Kahf 18:50][/sup] ‘Whatsoever is on it (the earth) will perish’[sup][al-Rahmaan 55:26][/sup] ‘Everyone shall taste death’[Aal ‘Imraan 3:185].[sup] (al-Muhallaa, 1/34/35)[/sup] Hence what the questioner has seen may be just her imagination or an illusion, or it may be jinn appearing in a form other than that with which Allah has created them. Secondly: With regard to the jinn harming humans, this is proven to happen and it does happen. Protection against that is attained by reciting Qur’aan and adhkaar (dhikr) prescribed in sharee’ah. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Undoubtedly the jinn can have a harmful effect on humans, and they could even kill them. They may harm a person by throwing stones at him, or by trying to terrify him, and other things that are proven in the Sunnah or indicated by real events. It was reported that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave permission to one of his Companions to go to his wife during one of the military campaigns I think it was the campaign of al-Khandaq as he was a young man who had recently got married. When he reached his house, he found his wife standing at the door, and he objected to that. She said to him, ‘Go inside,’ so he went inside and found a snake curled up on the bed. He had a spear with him, so he stabbed it with the spear until it died, and at the same instant as the snake died the man also died. It was not known which of them died first, the snake or the man. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) heard of that, he forbade killing the harmless kinds of snakes that are found in houses, apart from those, which are maimed or are streaked and malignant. This indicates that the jinn may attack humans, and that they may harm them, as is known from real-life events. There are numerous reports which indicate that a man may come to a deserted area, and a stone may be thrown at him, but he does not see anybody, or he may hear voices or a rustling sound like the rustling of trees, and other things that may make him feel distressed and scared. A jinn may also enter the body of a human, either because of love or with the intention of harming him, or for some other reason. This is indicated in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity’[sup][al-Baqarah 2:275][/sup] In such cases, the jinn may speak from inside of that person and address the one who is reading verses from the Qur’aan over him; the reciter may take a promise from the jinn never to come back, and other things concerning which there are very many reports which are widespread among the people. Wassalamu Alaikum, Ahmad [sup][color=blue][i]end of email[/color][/i][/sup] |
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| Rehana |
| 01/08/02 at 08:06:24 |
| [color=blue][slm][i][sup]...continued..[/i][/sup] [center][quote][color=magenta]Can we speak to Jinns and use them ?[/center][/color][/quote] Praise be to Allaah. It is possible to talk to the jinn, but finding about unseen matters and what is in people’s hearts is Haraam. Usually those who use words and phrases of the Qur’aan in order to gain control over the jinn use ways that are not Islamic. Using the jinn is a power that was given only to Sulaymaan (peace be upon him). Hence when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wanted to tie up a jinn whom he had overcome during his prayer, he remembered the du’aa’ of Sulayman and did not do that. So you should try to advise these people and if they respond, all well and good; otherwise the safest thing to do is to leave them alone and not speak to them. It is OK to speak with the jinn if this happens without you seeking it, and in fact it is mustahabb to call them to the religion of Allaah and to adhere to His sharee’ah, just as you call people. It is not advisable to read books or to recite Qur’aan for this purpose, because the Qur’aan was not revealed for such things; it was revealed to be a light and a guide in the life of the Muslim, so that the Muslim can follow it, obeying its commandments and avoiding that which it forbids. And Allaah knows best. Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr Wassalamu Alaikum, [sup][color=white]Ahmad ahmad@islamway.com kmrn965@hotmail.com (MSN) Note : I am neither part of any organisation or group nor do I call you to it. If you wish to get off my email list, please reply back with REMOVE as the subject.[/color] [color=blue][i]end of email[/color][/i] [sub][color=silver]Protection from Jinn....to follow....[/sub][/color] |
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| akbalkhan |
| 01/08/02 at 10:03:12 |
| As Salamu Alaykum, I think the statement that only the anbiya, alayhumus salam, can see the jinn, is in relation only to their original state and not necessarily their assumed forms. As I specifically remember in at least a couple of ahadith, that some of the companions, RA, were recorded to have seen Shaytan (who is a jinn), in a human form snatching up war booty or sadaqat. Also, in another hadith, we are told that the Dajjal, may Allah SWT protect us from his fitnahs, will appear to people and have with him shayatin who will assume the form of livestock, dead relatives, etc., in order to entice people (not anbiya, alayhumus salam) to follow him and believe him. I swear I am not trying to interpret the ahadith, nor their strengths of transmission, but I just wanted to comment on the apparent information in them of being able to see jinn who assumed form. Can we also say that to hear information from jinn is haram? I do not think in and of itself it is. Surely we each have a personal attache of shayatin who constantly attempt to induce us to unbecoming acts or thoughts, yet as long as we do not listen, and we seek refuge in Allah SWT, then we cannot be considered in the wrong. If we begin to believe what the jinn tell us, or rely upon them for guidance in our affairs, than truly this is a step in the direction of being misguided, and Allah SWT is al-Ghafur ar Rahim. Truly the best way in dealing with jinn, is to not deal with them at all. Conduct your Sunnah salat in the home, and the fard at masjid, recite bismala before eating, and read much Quran in the home, and insha'Allah, your home will be uninhabitable for injurious jinn, and if they do manage to enter your awareness then you will be much protected by sticking to the above acts as well. I do not really think anything of a healthy curiousity and study of al-jinn, but it becomes threatening when one becomes too intent upon learning about them, and seeking out their signs of existence, as surely Allah SWT's signs are all around us and more worthy of attention and reflection. I have never come across any information that suggests that any of the prophets, alayhumus salam, were grand-parented by jinn, and I would even think that kind of speculation, if indeed it is not backed up by something sound, is harmful to the family of the unnamed prophet, alayhis salam, and its integrity.(That definitely is just my initial personal opinion). I hope that I did not come off too quasi-scholarish, or step beyond bounds in my assessment of the subject. Regards, Qamar Akbal Kaan |
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