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Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/01/01 at 09:06:29
OK, stop laughing. So here's the story.. Before I embreaced Islam. I was a "biker", not you know, a Hell's Angels, a guy who has a MC who rides with others who have MC's. At these gatherings there would be a lot of Christian MC clubs, Sons of Christ, Christian Bikers, etc. So now I am thinking... A Muslim MC club??? Hmmmmmm...... What does everyone think? What do you think the Shari'ah says about this? I think it would be a great way to show the world you can have an enjoyable life without being drunk and exploitive (and "explitive"). It would also be a great opportunity for Da'wah I think. Let me know your thoughts.... Wassalam Daud

Re: Bikers for Allah
bhaloo
03/01/01 at 10:56:41
slm You mean like a club where Muslims get together and go biking?  I don't see anything wrong with that, sounds like a good idea.  The only thing is, how are you going to find enough people to participate? ???

Re: Bikers for Allah
zubaid
03/01/01 at 10:58:25
as-Salaamu 'Alaykum,   Count me in...zoom zoom zoom. :) Zubaid

Re: Bikers for Allah
BrKhalid
03/01/01 at 10:59:24
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) I just keep getting this picture of a bunch of guys with really long beards on their Harleys!!! ;-) Question is though, are these beards trimmed or….;) Br Daud I'm intrigued. What exactly would you do at these gatherings and for us non bikers what's the attraction of the open road?

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/01/01 at 11:25:40
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys are killin' me. You do have a good point tho, the brothers will fit right in with the long beards! In the MC clubs I have been in, there are lot of charity events, but unfortunately the charity events were particularly un-Islamic: pig roasts, "poker runs", rock bands, etc. etc. But there are other "events", such as organised scenic trips, there are other games that can be organised, and again, the proceeds all go to charity. I am probably not being entirely clear, but basically, it is a venue to gather, share something fun, and RIDE! You would have to be someone who enjoys motorcycling (aside from being Muslim). I can tell you riding with your "brothers" really does bring you closer together, especially on ling trips, overnighters, etc. On another side, if we rode as a group, as a club, to events other MC clubs have put on, we can perform Da'wah amongst them. Drumming up interest would of course be very difficult. I hope I don't sound like a bigot, Allah forbid, but I am surmising there are probably not a lot of Motorcycling Muslims (ehy, sounds like a good name for the club). But at this point it is just a very vague, nebulous idea floating around in my head... Wassalam.

Re: Bikers for Allah
Tarar
03/01/01 at 12:25:59
[slm] Me interested in Biking :) But me have no Bike :( waslaam Tarar

Re: Bikers for Allah
princess
03/01/01 at 12:31:17
walikumas'salaam warahmatullah :) r girls allowed? :) just wondering :) ma'salaam ;-D

Re: Bikers for Allah
BrKhalid
03/01/01 at 12:33:53
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) [quote]Me interested in Biking But me have no Bike [/quote] Me can't *ride* a bike :( :(

Re: Bikers for Allah
zubaid
03/01/01 at 13:51:06
as-Salaamu 'Alaykum, Here's something to consider.  How can you gain ajr (reward) AND ride a motorcylce at the same time?  Maaan, the answer has got to be the Muslim-biker gang :).  But think about it, you are in a jama'aa of sorts with Muslims AND you're going to make Da'wah, AND you get to ride your bike around. I am soo in.  So here's the announcement:  if there are any Muslim bikers or Muslim biker wanna bes in North Texas...get in touch with me.  'Cause I'm liking this idea :) Though my future wife is probably not ;). Take care, Zubaid Kazmi

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/01/01 at 13:52:23
Oh man, you guys are making me laugh so hard I have tears rolling down my face. Princess, I don't see why not, but these are the kinds of things I would want opinions on. I mean, as long as you were "appropriately dressed" I don't see the problem. The danger with this type of thing tho, is that muslimahs are deserving of a certain type of respectful interaction with the brothers, and that cannot be guaranteed if the club was to ride to an event hosted by a non-Muslim club (bikers are a rule get pretty drunk and stupid). Of course this wouldn't be a problem with events within our own club, or if we were particularly choosy about the outside events attended. Wassalam.

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/01/01 at 16:48:23
Zubaid, my thoughts exactly. But I do think interest is going to be slow in coming. I am thinking of setting up a website and blasting the search engines just to see what sort of national interest we would have. If we had enough interest nationally and could set up local chapters, just think how much fun an annual gathering of all the chapters could be!  And just imagine what salat would be like!!!!! ALLAHU AKHBAR!!!! : -)

Re: Bikers for Allah
Nazia
03/01/01 at 14:39:23
[quote]I am soo in.  So here's the announcement:  if there are any Muslim bikers or Muslim biker wanna bes in North Texas...get in touch with me.  'Cause I'm liking this idea [/quote] Don't encourage him. Why is it that one can only have fun if they are travelling at speeds of 120mph?! (And no, I didn't pull that number out of the air, ask Mr. Zubaid "Hell's Angel" Kazmi where it came from.) My brother has been bungee jumping and sky coasting, he would like to jump out of a plane, and drive his car on the Autobon. My fiance would like to jump out of a plane, join a bikers gang and he [i]insists[/i] that the usage of brakes on a car is for wusses. My father drives 55 mph on the freeway.   I love my father :) Wassalam, Nazia :)

Re: Bikers for Allah
Asim
03/01/01 at 14:41:14
Assalaamu alaikum, Sounds like a good idea br. Daud. A motorbike is probably the only thing I can (am allowed to) drive. Any Harleys available on loan? :) Go ahead and set up a website and do some publicity. You will have to be patient though as muslims are scattered all over the place and bikers would be hard to find.

Re: Bikers for Allah
se7en
03/01/01 at 15:20:55
as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah, Hey, I remember an article in Islamic Horizons about a Muslim convert who was a biker... and he faced all this discrimination both from the "mc" community and the muslim community... and he mentioned how it is such an amazing daawah opportunity.. was that you?!  woah.. if not, I have to find that article, you two would get along great :) wasalaam.

Re: Bikers for Allah
BrKhalid
03/01/01 at 16:10:44
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) [quote]So here's the announcement:  if there are any Muslim bikers or Muslim biker wanna bes in North Texas...get in touch with me. 'Cause I'm liking this idea :) Though my future wife is probably not ;) [/quote] I'm sorry but that was just too funny!! :D

Re: Bikers for Allah
Al-Basha
03/01/01 at 16:56:38
Salamu Aliakom, Well I don't know how to ride a motorbike and I don't have one so that kinda leaves me out eh? Then again I'm not into motorbikes as such. Any aspiring jet fighter pilots here? I wish i could fly but im too tall :( Yeah I can see myself flying an F-22 right over Israel ;)

Re: Bikers for Allah
jannah
03/02/01 at 02:57:50
walaikum salaam wrt, [quote]Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) So here's the announcement:  if there are any Muslim bikers or Muslim biker wanna bes in North Texas...get in touch with me. 'Cause I'm liking this idea :) Though my future wife is probably not ;) I'm sorry but that was just too funny!! :D [/quote] It's even funnier when you know those two are engaged ;)

Re: Bikers for Allah
proudtobemuslim
03/02/01 at 05:01:46
Assalam-u-Alaikum, I was into these jets n stuff at one point in my life.  F-22 and the Eurofighter and all.  The closest one could probably get to the real thing would be on a computer game.  Don't laugh.   Did you know that EF2000 was used by NATO to train their pilots? (It is quite old now however in computer time).  Falcon 4.0 and FA-18 Super Hornet are supposed to be the best on the market.  I suggest the former. Wassalam-u-Alaikum Uzer

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/02/01 at 07:57:07
Nazia: [quote] Why is it that one can only have fun if they are travelling at speeds of 120mph?! [/quote] I go MAYBE 10 miles over the speed limit. My days of riding like an idiot are over (I'm 41 remember). The bike I have is classified as a cruiser, and that is exactly what I do, I cruise--I sit back kick my feet up on the highway bars, and enjoy the scenery.  But unfortunately men are boys until they hit 40, so this is a golden opportunity for you to work on your sabr (heeheehee!). Asim: [quote] Sounds like a good idea br. Daud. A motorbike is probably the only thing I can (am allowed to) drive. Any Harleys available on loan? [/quote] Forget Harleys! I ride a "metric cruiser" and everyone THINKS it's a Harley. And the best part about my bike is it's shaft driven not chain, so I don't have to worry about my thobe getting caught in the chain! No helmet law here in CT, just imagine how cool I am going to look with my headdress blowing in the wind!!! Se7en [quote] Hey, I remember an article in Islamic Horizons about a Muslim convert who was a biker... and he faced all this discrimination both from the "mc" community and the muslim community... and he mentioned how it is such an amazing daawah opportunity.. was that you?!  woah.. if not, I have to find that article, you two would get along great [/quote] No, it wasn't me, but if you happen to find that article I would love to read it!

Re: Bikers for Allah
Arsalan
03/02/01 at 11:00:10
[slm] [quote]It's even funnier when you know those two are engaged ;)[/quote]Wait ... who's engaged to who?

Arsalan asking??!! No way!
AbuKhaled
03/02/01 at 11:42:00
Arsalan, Assalam alaikum. I'm stunned! Of all the people to ask, you? Sheesh, you're the last one I'd have figured not to get it. You figured out my coolest riddles (to my dismay) in double quick time, some that perplexed me for ages! And now this. You've changed... Lol. Sister Nazia "I can't wait till we're married and I can sit behind him on that bike" and Brother Zubaid "Hold on tight!!!" methinks. You guys crease me up...;-) Abu Khaled

Re: Bikers for Allah
Al-Basha
03/02/01 at 13:24:11
[slm] Heh well yeah I used to play those games too. I loved the dog fighting games. There's nothing like blowin up someone virtually out of the sky hahaa. So bro Daud, how loud is your motorbike? Is it the kind that is ear deafining when you start it up? And whats the difference between a chain driven and a shaft motorbike?

Re: Bikers for Allah
bhaloo
03/02/01 at 13:56:59
slm I haven't played an air simulator in a long time, but they were really slow, have they improved much?

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/02/01 at 16:37:36
Well, my bike is not break all the windows for a 10 mile radius loud, it's more like, annoy everyone in my neighborhood loud. Hey, you gotta get everyone's attention. That should work nicely with me being a Muslim now... : -) Chain driven is like how a bicycle transfer power, i.e., you pedal and the chain transfers the torque to the rear wheel. Shaft drive is how a car works, i.e., the drive shaft transfers torque from the engine to the wheels. Am I still on the right board???  ;-)

Re: Bikers for Allah
Saleema
03/02/01 at 17:25:44
Assalamu alykum, yes brother daud you are on the right board! :) Muslims do have fun you know.  :) abukhalid, are you the old abu khalid?  :) if i were a guy and if i weren't scared of bikes i would join your club daud! wassalam, Saleema

Re: Bikers for Allah
Arsalan
03/02/01 at 18:29:20
[slm] Saleema, correction: If you are a man you are *not* afraid of anything!  (except Allah of course) :) This includes threats from your wife that she won't cook dinner tonight ;) P.S. There's only one Abu Khaled!  Fortunately for us!  I don't think I could keep up with all his lengthy posts if there were twice as many of em :)   Just kidding ;-D

Re: Bikers for Allah
proudtobemuslim
03/03/01 at 02:57:37
Assalam-u-Alaikum, Brother Arshad, most flight sims still cater for the hardcore realism side (i.e.slow), but many (including Falcon 4.0 i think) have an option to get straight into the action. Nonetheless, if you're like me you'll go for the SPACE sims like Freespace 2 and Starlancer which have nothing but wrist-twisting and thumb-bashing madness... with the occasional story-line! LOL Wassalam-u-Alaikum Uzer

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/03/01 at 10:41:02
Saleema, one of the things I love about this board is that you all have wonderful senses of humour. Many of the Islamic web sites I started visiting when I first became Muslim were VERY SERIOUS!!! Mostly they were full of arguments about why the Shi'a's are wrong, or why the Sufi's are wrong, or why the... well you get the ideas. I love the openmindedness that most of you encourage here, I feel comfortable posting anything here and knowing I will received a compassion and knowledgeable response. Have a good weekend, all.

Re: Bikers for Allah
zakk
03/03/01 at 10:46:23
slm This all reminds me when I went to India when I was 16.  I saw quite a few "maulvi saabs" (you know, kinda old men with long beards, thobes, and kufis) zooming around on bikes.  I even saw a sister in a jilbab and niqab once. For America, I think the appropriate look would be thobe and kufi with a leather biker jacket and helmet on top :) And you know, wind is probably good for the beard, gives it lots of volume and body, although I would recommend a conditioner to retain moisture ;)

Re: Bikers for Allah
BrKhalid
03/03/01 at 15:42:23
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) [quote]one of the things I love about this board is that you all have wonderful senses of humour[/quote] One of the things I love about this board is that I get grooming tips for my beard! ;-)

Re: Bikers for Allah
Mona
03/03/01 at 18:51:20
assalamu alaikum, [quote] One of the things I love about this board is that I get grooming tips for my beard!  [/quote] That's what I call S-U-B-T-L-E :D

Re: Bikers for Allah
Asim
03/09/01 at 00:33:30
Assalaamu alaikum, [quote] Hey, I remember an article in Islamic Horizons about a Muslim convert who was a biker... and he faced all this discrimination both from the "mc" community and the muslim community... and he mentioned how it is such an amazing daawah opportunity.. was that you?!  woah.. if not, I have to find that article, you two would get along great [/quote] I was browsing Islamic Horizon in the library and came across the article se7en is referring to. It is in the sept/oct 2000 issue titled "Da'wah on Wheels" by Anisa David, pp. 52. So br. Daud, you can link up with this brother. He seems to have started a bike club. You can contact him at: Victor David, Human Interaction for Religious Understanding 21079 1st Ave. N. Bushnell, SD 57276 Wasalaam.

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/09/01 at 09:34:27
Ma sha Allah, Asim! Thanks!!! ;-)

Re: Bikers for Allah
gift
03/09/01 at 10:17:26
assalam u alaikum u guys are really funny , i can imagine it now brothers  on their bikes beards and jubbas flowing in the wind. and behind them sisters with jilbaabs and hijaabs flying as well, i'd say count me in guys - but, no bike, and i'm on the wrong side of the world - it's just not fair!!! wa'as salaam

Re: Bikers for Allah
Daud
03/10/01 at 09:58:20
I really do think it would be cool looking. You don't have to wear a helmet here, so you KNOW I am going to be tearing down the highway with my ghutrah flowing behind me (of course I'll have to staple it to my head I guess).... I actually thought the motorcycle was a more acceptable mode of transportation in other countries?

Re: Bikers for Allah
jannah
04/01/01 at 01:48:56
Someone posted an update in the guestbook, apparently they've now formed a group. The guy is soooo cooool ma'shallah!  Check it out all Harley lovers: http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/MuslimMotorcycles/index.html
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