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RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/15/01 at 18:51:00
RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
[Please note...these are all numbered #1 ON PURPOSE!]


1. If you think you are fat, you probably are. Do not ask us. We refuse to answer.

1. Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are not quests to see if we can find the perfect present yet again!

1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to; expect an answer you do not want to hear.

1. Sometimes, we are not thinking about you. Live with it.

1. Do not ask us what we are thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as navel lint, the shotgun formation and monster trucks.

1. Sunday = sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be.

1. Shopping is not a sport, and no, we are never going to think of it that way.

1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine. Really.

1. You have enough clothes. You have too many shoes.

1. Crying is blackmail.

1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work. Strong hints do not work. Obvious hints do not work. Just say it!

1. No, we do not know what day it is. We never will.  Mark anniversaries on a calendar. Remind us frequently beforehand.

1. Most guys own three pairs of shoes - tops. What makes you think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of thirty, would look good with your dress?

1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.

1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.

1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.

1. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it done--not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials.

1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we.

1. The relationship is never going to be like it was after the first two months we were married. Get over it. And quit whining to your girlfriends - like THEIR relationship is SO MUCH better.

1. ALL men see in only 16 colours, like windows default settings. Peach for example is a fruit not a colour. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is.

1. We are not mind readers and we never will be. Our lack of mind-reading ability is not proof of how little we care about you.

1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/16/01 at 01:41:27
assalaamu alaikum warhmatullahi wa barakatuh,

some of these made me cringe.  ouch...

no no no-- not all men... i would think, i would hope that real men r a bit more sensitive and cognizant of the needs of women, esp those who have a mother and sisters. those rules r an insult 2 many muslim men and pertain more 2 non muslim men who r much less aware of the nature of a woman and everything else in the world.

wasalamu alaikum,
sr noura
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/16/01 at 02:33:55
wlm,

noura exactly what i was thinking!!! (great minds ;))
While they may be somewhat amusing, i hope that in a marriage the relationship is better than what these rules imply.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/16/01 at 17:30:43
assalaamu alaikum warhmatullahi wa barakatuh,

jannah... not 2 mention that it paints a pretty unpleasant pic of a woman.  sisters do much more than eat, shop, watch tv, cry, and nag their husbands.  we don't own thirty prs of shoes, 5-8 is more accurate.  asking ur husband if he's plzed w/ the way u look is fine 2.  he earns the reward of complimenting u and ur happy b/c u think u look nice.  this article makes me more sad than it amuses me.

wasalamu alaikum,
sr noura
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
princess
03/16/01 at 13:18:21
[quote]1. ALL men see in only 16 colours, like windows default settings. Peach for example is a fruit not a colour. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is.[/quote]

as'salaamualikum :)

can u name me the 16 colours plz? ;) ma'salam ;-D
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
bhaloo
03/16/01 at 13:34:27
slm

16 colours is too much, some of us only think in 3 bits instead of 4 bits, while some brothers use only 2 bits.

Black
White
Orange
Red
Green
Yellow
Purple
Pink
Blue
Gray
Brown
....... ok this test is getting really hard, I have to actually think now..............

turquoise
magenta
cyan
LAVENDAR  :)
beige

YEAH!  I made it. :)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Arsalan
03/16/01 at 16:36:43
[quote]we don't own thirty prs of shoes, 5-8 is more accurate.[/quote]LOL!

No comment ;)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
PacificBreeze
03/18/01 at 13:31:54

[quote]
turquoise
magenta
cyan
LAVENDAR  :)
beige

[/quote]

really? guys think about/recognize those colors? they're not tooo girly? :P

yeah...that post's acidicly funny..hopefully no one's like that with their spouse! sprinkle a lil more kindness, love, cheerfulness etc..
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/18/01 at 16:57:12
slm :)

[quote]hopefully no one's like that with their spouse! [/quote]
I honestly hope not! We have the greatest teacher Rasoolullah [saw] as our guide and model. Subhanallah how beautiful Islam is!

wlm

no u didn't..
princess
03/18/01 at 17:50:40
[quote]cyan
LAVENDAR  :)[/quote]

walikumas'salaam warahmatullah :)

ahhh..what in the world is cyan? ??? i ain't ever heard of it..and i don't think it's in my crayola crayola RoCkS box :) u said lavender :o :o :o that's wrong man..hahahaahah..;-D [sigh] hota hai :) it's all good..cough*slayer*cough ;) ma'salaam ;-D

Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
BrKhalid
03/18/01 at 17:51:50
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

[quote]ahhh..what in the world is cyan? [/quote]

Isn't it light blue???
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Asim
03/18/01 at 18:39:08
Assalaamu alaikum,

It is easy to *name* a few colors but the real test is to differentiate them. Most guys (with me as a typical example :)) cannot recognize beyond 7 or 8 colors: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, white, black, and a couple of shades of white and black.
[quote]turquoise
magenta
cyan
LAVENDAR[/quote]
Arshad can you describe these colors?

I would say guys max out after 3-bits of information (about 8 colors) ;)


Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Mona
03/18/01 at 19:18:30
Assalamu alaikum

Uhh, do I have to explain everything around here?  Hehe, j/k.

Colour Guide
============
[color=cyan]CYAN[/color] is bright light blue
[color=magenta]MAGENTA[/color] is bright pink, also fusia
[color=turquoise]TURQUOISE[/color] is bluish green
[color=lavender]LAVENDER[/color] is v.light purple

And check this out, there are even more!!
[color=aqua]AQUA[/color] is greenish blue
[color=maroon]MAROON[/color] is reddish purple

OK, now I am going dizzy from staring at the screen with all these bright colours, I'd better stop.

Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
donia
03/18/01 at 23:24:42
Well, I think I have to admit........
Whoever wrote these rules must be an expert, (an experienced smart one)
I've been married for almost 10 years, and yes, men and woman do have problems with these silly things J

>1. Shopping is not a sport, and no, we are never going to think of it that way.

Almost all the women I know wish their husband enjoyed shopping with them.

>1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

Lol, the last day I was really in a bad mood, and when I started to talk about it to my husband he told me the best thing is to talk to my sister or to a friend.:-(
And yes, he didn't understand why his respond upset me.

>1. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it done--not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

Maybe the author met me???  I wonder if he is my husband……lol

Salam!
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/18/01 at 23:55:34
am i the only idealist out there?
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/19/01 at 00:23:41
noura me too i guess. should we then just get married to any old guy who thinks the same way as this? this brings up nightmare images of a husband who sits in front of the tv with a (root) beer on his belly asleep after watching sports and ignoring us the whole day. where's the "'honey i'm home' i picked up a bunch of roses for you on the way home" types?


Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
princess
03/19/01 at 00:42:24
[quote]where's the "'honey i'm home' i picked up a bunch of roses for you on the way home" types?[/quote]

as'salaamualikum :)

someone's been watchin too many i love lucy reruns ;) hahahahah..:) ppl like that r hard to find..:) ma'salaam ;-D
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
bhaloo
03/19/01 at 01:51:12
slm

[quote]black.
turquoise
magenta
cyan
LAVENDAR
Arshad can you describe these colors?

I would say guys max out after 3-bits of information (about 8 colors) ;)
[/quote]

Asim, no I can't.  :(  I thought magenta and lavendar were the same.  As far as I'm concerned, cyan and light blue look the same to me.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
BrKhalid
03/19/01 at 06:03:20
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

[quote] where's the "'honey i'm home' i picked up a bunch of roses for you on the way home" types? [/quote]

They're too busy trying to figure out the difference between cyan, turquoise and aqua!! ;-)


Br Asim do you remember these colours on the old ZX Spectrum?
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
JustMe
03/19/01 at 06:20:55
I thought this was all a joke but this is true with at least some guys i know.  but most guys i know aren't like this(reassuring the sisters...hopefully but i could be wrong).  

One day I got dumped by this girl i was talking to for a while. I went to this friend's house because i felt so awful and when i started to cry (peewee me) he absolutely went balling on me.  He wouldn't even let me cry.  It would have felt so good to just let it out but instead he didn't think that crying was manly(hah!).

From the likes of these Rules I think the preconceived notion of a woman's role (I wouldn't be surprised)would be to massage their man's foot and clip his nails while he reads the newspaper reclining on his lazy-boy.  
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
JustMe
03/19/01 at 06:25:20
oops!  i repeated myself not having read sister jannah's post on the second page.  
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/19/01 at 10:47:08

[quote]
They're too busy trying to figure out the difference between cyan, turquoise and aqua!! ;-)
[/quote]
Let me give you brothers a little hint.. just go with RED! :)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/19/01 at 12:19:53
assalaamu alaikum warhmatullahi wa barakatuh humi,

they're out there, u just have 2 look Hard.
roses, and if not, then at least a smile :) is that asking 2 much? :(

Noura
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
se7en
03/19/01 at 13:36:51
as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah,

noura, jannah :)  You guys are crazy.

I can see it now:

Seeking alliance with Muslim brother, 21-29, hafiz/'alim/faqih/mujahid.  Must have affection for roses, dislike root beer.  Must smile often, have high tolerance for shoes.  Cyan recognition a plus.

heh ;)

wasalaam.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/19/01 at 14:06:43
slm

[quote]Seeking alliance with Muslim brother, 21-29, hafiz/'alim/faqih/mujahid.  Must have affection for roses, dislike root beer.  Must smile often, have high tolerance for shoes.  Cyan recognition a plus.[/quote]

;-D LOL ;-D  ;-D  ;-D

I'm laughing my head off! ;-D
Great one Se7en ;)

wlm :)



Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/19/01 at 14:17:34
jazaka Allahu khair seVen.  he must also be a mujatahid. and u forgot 2 mention the no music/tv policy ;P

jannah- let them not break us down.  when we find the brother, we'll have 2 introduce him 2 few ppl and sorry se7en, he's not a polygamer :)
he exists somewhere out there. inna Allaha ma3asabireen ya akhwaaat.

wasalaamu alaikum,
noura


Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
se7en
03/19/01 at 14:24:29
who said he was for you noura ;)

kidding!
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/19/01 at 14:27:58
so u admit he exists! never said i deserve him, but i would be honored 2 marry him even is he wasn't a faqih.

nur :)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
PacificBreeze
03/19/01 at 18:29:14
jannah, ewwwwwwww that's such an awful pic of a husband ewwwwwwwwww lol

awwwww don't feel so bad, ya banaats! :)
he's out there somewhere...my daddy's pretty nifty, masha'allah...he's done some of the MOST romantic stuff EVERRRRRRRRRR...esp with this past wedding anniversary...everyone was gushing!! and we're like DAAAAAAAADDDD, now NO ONE will be able to beat that!!! we're going to compare everyone to ya! ;) :P

so chin up. :)

and arshad...that is sooooo badddddd...u can't differentiate? tsk tsk.. :P
lavendar's LIGHT LIGHT purplish..and cyan is like a diff blue from turquoise..turquoise is like..kinda aquamarinish looking..

and it goes on and on and on....
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
bhaloo
03/19/01 at 19:00:10
slm

[quote]lavendar's LIGHT LIGHT purplish..and cyan is like a diff blue from turquoise..turquoise is like..kinda aquamarinish looking..[/quote]

My OS that I am running is Man v1.0 and it doesn't understand how to differentiate between those colors.  :)  Maybe I should just format my harddrive and install a new OS? ???
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
princess
03/19/01 at 22:38:23
as'salaamualikum :)

lavender is like ahh..the background of these posts :) there's the greyish color..then there's the lavender :) (duh :)) ma'salaam ;-D
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
PacificBreeze
03/19/01 at 23:07:23
lol yeah i was going to add it's like the bkgd color for the posts...and bro bear, was that like...a computer joke? :P "man v1.0"????? ;)

oooh oooh that reminds ME!!! i was reading pop sci, the mag..and there's this bit about how we'll soon be able to taste products right off of their websites..that it'll be printed using a software code which'll 'instruct a printer to print out artificial flavor droplets' instead of ink on to  paper that's really an 'edible potato starch wafer'!! isn't that way nifty? and next yr, the comp will be able to mix 5 basic tastes..soooooooooo what'll be the first thing YOU'll try out? :)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
bhaloo
03/19/01 at 23:19:44
slm

Yes it was a computer joke.  Soon you will all be speaking in terms of computers, resistance is futile. :)

Incidentally I remember reading some statistic saying that a higher percentage of men are color blind then women.  So maybe this color business is genetic? ???
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
alzinjibar
03/20/01 at 14:19:58
Bismillah Rahman Rahim, wa salatu wa salam ala'a Rasul Karim.
As salam alaykum,

Wrong there are people out there who are not sport and tv oriented, they are people who have other priorities in life, and one among their priorities is to create that home of tranquility , a home as serene as a fountain of water in a hidden garden of Cordoba or Isphahan, they are people who will leave you a note  on the mirror of your bathroom, to make her  smile when she  wakes up in the morning,  or a gentle word beside your favorite coffee mug on the table for a breakfast twinkle, or a little something in coat pocket like a lavender La Senza wood marble or in her handbag, or even a smiling note on the steering wheel of the car,  or a line of thought quickly written on a piece of napkin at lunch mailed to her, and yes there are people who’ll pick up a Belgian chocolate bar on their way home because they want to see that little something’ in her eyes not because it’s a Belgian chocolate but there is something else behind the chocolate,  or to pick her up and pick up some take away, drive to a small open place  in nature and enjoy it till later, or go for a walk on the beach and feel the wet sand below your feet and let the breeze and the sound of waves put you back in harmony with nature and your beloved one, express your inner feeling and thought be it by a word , gesture, a warm look.  And yes there are people who’ll get her a hot water bottle for “back pain” because for some the back pain are so strong that they have to go to emergency,  we are people of mercy and compassion, remember “ Ruhama bayna hum..”, we have rehma , mercy between us, if we encourage to have mercy with our fellow brothers and sisters then how so with our beloved ones, how so for the one who sacrifice her life for you , how so for the one who carries your babies for 9 painful month, and goes near death experience for You.

Subhan’Allah where are we going, we have a  growing rate of divorce and for some who are not divorce a big percentage of people need counseling and professional care, we have a climbing rate of child, school , drugs  problems, we have tons of social problems and need serious “ Professional “ , full time job in  social services, and counselors , and not the part timers non professionelle,  all these social  ills we see in the western societies we have them,  since we are leaving in here,  and since our population is growing in this part of the world , so does our problems,  how many times have u heard of  bickering wives, and hot tempered husbands,  HARD headed, and what not, tons of times, and if one is active in that field it’s a common occurrences, day in day out and those are the lest problemes we have.  Well if the tongues are sharp and biter , and the head are obstinate in our “ right attitude” can’t be wrong mentality  ,   maybe we owe to check what is behind those tongues and  limbs, ie : the hearts. Don’t you think if we , us guys , were more gentle with our sisters, and compassionate, more original in our dealing with them , more patient with our differences we could maybe have better relationship in our dealing with our spouses, or the future spouses, and have tranquil hearts in  peace and harmony, in a home where peace reside, so that one can take that peace outside and spread it .  I wonder how many people among those who are married will wuduh and get on that prayer mat , and pray because there are “ so mad “ as to send lightning on someones’ head, and blow up like a pressure cooker.. and ask Allah (swt) to give them sabr and forgive their spouse ?? how many ?  Because if one cannot find it in his own home then where to get it, ? the masajid ? no way if every one who comes from a home where it’s  “ boiling “ , eventually in the masajid it might blow too,  if one runs away from his own home then we are in serious trouble.  
I encourage all of us to get the tapes of  Sh Adhami on “ Gender relations “ it’s a collection of tapes,  which  gives us a glimpse of another reality and much food for thought ,  for what a blue print of Islamic values are in that field.   And yes at times it will be difficult, because of our individuality,  character, background and so on, but realistically speaking, one cannot imagine putting two worlds together without chopping a part of each in order for them to fit, they’ll be mutual cutting, trimming and mending , or they’ll be mutual molding to adjust to each other, because one recognize that wife has been chosen for me from the Seven Heavens, it’s the Will of My Lord (swt), a gift, an honor, a companion to tread the Path to the Pond . The sad part is many who are there at that stage of their lifes, do it the non Islamic way even if they profess the opposite, ie: I and my way as oppose to what Allah(swt) want’s and His Messenger (saw) taught. And if it’s really hard bite your tongue, and think about those less fortunate, the afghan brother who has lost his arms and legs, with a family to feed, the Bosnian Bro who’ has been physically maimed  and whished he could have a companion , the Malian brother who is blind due to river warms and no one wants him, the millions of muslims man who are physically , psychologically or emotionally impaired, and who would give years of their lives just to have a companion for a brief moment of their remaining time to live, be grateful and bow down to your Lord (swt) who has chose that partner for you,.  I know sometimes we want “entertainment “ but the lack of it shouldn’t be a cause of enmity between muslins more so between a couple.  Make some time to participate in your community activities, visit the hospitals, visit the prisons, spend some time at night in ibadah even if it’s little but constant, and if it’s still doesn’t work to change the state of ones heart , then visit the graves, and sit there and ponder about the next destination of ones life not as a far off thing but a concrete reality for you can see the lines of graves stretching before your eyes, and you can feel the cold soil sifting between your fingers, and keep on making dua, for your beloved one on an ongoing basis, and make dua for your self so that Allah (swt) make your heart more gentle , kind, compassionate, understanding, forgiving  , loving and loveable, and may He (swt) the Lord of the Seven heavens increase your couple in Muwadah’, amin.

Nb: don’t forget the widows and orphans in your duas, and my apologies if it’s long, I didn’t realise it was long.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/20/01 at 14:25:50
wa alaikum assalaam warhmatullahi wa barakatuh,

i rest my case... jazaka Allahu khair ya akhi.

wasalaamu alaikum,
sr noura
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Mona
03/20/01 at 14:44:14
Assalamu alaikum,

[quote]Incidentally I remember reading some statistic saying that a higher percentage of men are color blind then women.  So maybe this color business is genetic? [/quote]

Yep, green & red colour blindness is most common in men.  Actually both of my brothers are "colour blind".  However, this is really a misnomer since they do see in colour but have trouble telling the difference between green & brown. You imagine the confusion that this creates when they go shopping for clothes!!

Wassalam
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
alzinjibar
03/20/01 at 15:17:33
Bismillah Rahman Rahim, wa salatu wa salam ala'a Rasul Karim,
as salam alaykum ,
I forgot something, once in a little masjid facing the sea on the east African coast, an old man taught me at 6 in the morning , that some man will pass by a woman and see nothing in her , others will see a beautifull garden full of colors and shades, scents and joy, and when she's taken care off she'll turn into a symphonie for the receptive hearts, and it's up to one to tilt(?) the garden into a blossoming jewel. ( this is my translation of a line of poetry in swahili wisdom, i'm fully responsible for the error )
NS
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/20/01 at 17:24:34
[wlm]

wow brother alzinjibar that should be sent along with marriage certificates!! :)
i bought the abdullah adhami series but havent' listened to it yet, but if it sounds like that i'm there!!

[nour we're going to have to change our outlook.. there are good bros out there...  out there being the key words tho :) ]
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Noura
03/20/01 at 20:33:11
assalaamu alaikum warhmatullahi wa barakatuh,  

hehe.  yes, way out there.. in jannah, jannah :)

i beleive they exist, but most of the other sisters on the board seem 2 disagree.  guess br alzinjibar helped us prove them wrg.  such beautiful and soft language, masha'Allah.

wasalaamu alaikum,
noura

Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Kashif
03/20/01 at 21:58:24
[quote]i bought the abdullah adhami series but havent' listened to it yet, but if it sounds like that i'm there!![/quote]
assalaamu alaikum

I checked out the price for this collection of tapes and it was $39.95! Subhanallah are you guys used to paying these prices for tapes?

$39.95 for 6 tapes? Why in the UK we pay between £1-£2.50 for our tapes.

Update: I found another site that sells the set for $50.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/20/01 at 23:27:56
slm,

wow i can't remember spending that much on it.. but i might have. kashif money shouldn't be an object when acquiring deen right ;)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Arsalan
03/20/01 at 23:33:07
jannah, acquiring the knowledge of the deen was free of cost at the time of our pious predecessors!

No costly conventions/conferences.
No price for books or lectures.

And the best of shuyookh and ulamaa!

Subhan Allah.

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
PacificBreeze
03/20/01 at 23:37:21
[quote]jannah, acquiring the knowledge of the deen was free of cost at the time of our pious predecessors!

No costly conventions/conferences.
No price for books or lectures.

And the best of shuyookh and ulamaa!

Subhan Allah.

Wassalamu alaikum.[/quote]

exactly what i was referring to in that post when i was pretty new..all these expenses! nor with as great quality!
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
jannah
03/20/01 at 23:56:50
[slm]

Arsalan ppl used to actually travel to acquire knowledge, now the most we do is like go to isna.. but alhamdulillah there are those today who use the media at hand to spread their knowledge, if we have to pay for them to make the tapes and package them as well as the costs for recording, etc why not..

btw about your costly islamic conference/conventions comment. those conventions do not hike up the prices to make a profit, the most they are trying to do is break even. (i know cuz i worked for isna for one painstaking summer) isna's hotel rates are dirt cheap.. you won't find any decent hotel at $99 bucks a night.. i know my company has easily spent up to $259 a night for hotels in big cities and not even blinked.
as for the cost of the registration, do you have any idea what renting the rosemont convention center costs?? think of one hall for one night for a wedding reception.. then think of at least 5 huge lecture halls and many smaller ones for an entire 3 days, not to mention all the other huge costs.

it's like someone telling your msa they weren't going to pay the $5 buck fee to get into a lecture. .and ur using the money to pay for the room/mic/refreshments served. it's not really likely that they really do not have $5.

a perfect example this weekend we had an event here that cost about $1200 total.. hotel rooms, speakers honorarium (we actually cut it in half cuz we had no $), no transport fees too, food, mic etc and we were going to charge for this event but for the generosity of an msa in the community and a mosque org.

then this uncle guy comes up to the table when we're serving pizza and says, "is this all you're serving"  and i just looked at him and said "what?" he said "is this all you're serving, pizza?" (looking at the pizza in contempt) i was ready to [deleted by moderator :)] then as he was walking away i said "wait!! you know that this food is donated, we only have it because some generous ppl in our community paid for it, we could have charged for this event but we didn't!" and he said "oh" and walked away...

anyways i understand your comment about everything being "free" -- if we only lived in the time of the sahaba etc.. but come on.. i know people who spend 10 times as much going to disney world or buying a mcdonalds lunch on the weekend instead of going to an islamic conference and when it comes to buying an islamic tape.. oh no it's too expensive.. it should be free..this probably goes with the whole "dawud wharnsby" we should pay for islamic products discussion thread

ps no reflection on your arsalan just me talking (alot)




Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
AbdulBasir
03/21/01 at 00:19:46
whoa, jannah, noura, se7en, what is this, the Ikhwan Health Club or the (Albanyian) Akhwaat Cafe...I couldn't tell :)

well I hope y'all were reassured by br. alzinjibar...wow bro you can really write, and with such thought and depth! maashallah

[slm]

Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Al-Basha
03/21/01 at 00:41:32
[slm]

Interesting thread. Actually I was watching this Islamic series on the Arab TV, and the topic of the series was Polygamy. The bro doing the show, interviewed a jordanian brother and his three, yes 3 masha Allah, Allahu Ackbar, wives. Heh it was pretty funny, because he asked each one how they felt about the whole concept. And masha Allah everyone was very honest when they said that of course there is jealousy/sadness involved but then they remember their duty to Allah and as Muslims and this puts away those feelings.

Note, I'm not saying to every bro out there go marry more than one, I don't want to get flamed by the sisters on the board.

Also, as I have said before, I do not like the "gender battle" men are from mars, women are from venus junk. I think this increases the gap between married couples.

A piece of advice to fellow married, and soon to be married brothers out there. Befriend your wife, and treat her like she is a gift from Allah. I've seen too many marriages fail because both sides, don't know what each person is about. I learned from a shaikh, that no marriage is perfect, and that you have to learn how to live/deal with your spouses quirkyness/oddities.

Wa Allahu A3laam
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
BrKhalid
03/21/01 at 10:32:46
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

"or a little something in a coat pocket like a lavender La Senza wood marble"

You know guys, this colour thing may actually work ;-)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/22/01 at 18:18:42
slm

[quote]And if it’s really hard bite your tongue, and think about those less fortunate, the afghan brother who has lost his arms and legs, with a family to feed, the Bosnian Bro who’ has been physically maimed  and whished he could have a companion , the Malian brother who is blind due to river warms and no one wants him, the millions of muslims man who are physically , psychologically or emotionally impaired, and who would give years of their lives just to have a companion for a brief moment of their remaining time to live, be grateful and bow down to your Lord (SubHana Wa Ta`ala ) who has chose that partner for you,[/quote]

Excellent points raised brother Alzinjibar ...it really makes you think from a different perspective and how grateful to Allah (swt) we should be.

wlm :)
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/22/01 at 18:20:51
slm

[quote]You know guys, this colour thing may actually work [/quote]

LOL ;-D

wlm
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Kashif
03/22/01 at 18:37:51
assalaamu alaikum

Sometimes I do cause some confusion with my comments, because i'm simply doing a straight comparison of da'wah in the UK with that in the US, when really they do differ quite a bit.

In the UK, i don't think i've ever heard of a conference that occurred in a hotel. No wonder your conferences cost so much!? This summer we'll be having our bi-annual conference, insha'llah. For the event half of a university is hired out, and we get to use the dormitories for sleeping & the lecture halls for the talks. Included with that you'd have the cost of bringing over say 10 speakers from around the world, plus the cost for all the meals over the three day conference.

Do you know how much that will cost? I'm tempted to ask you guys to guess, but muhannad will spoil it. It costs only £35 per person.

But jannah, $39.95 is hefty for only 6 tapes. hmmm.. i'll just make my own set of lectures on gender-relations. anyone interested? Arsalan? Asim? bhaloo? hehe

Kashif
Wa Salaam
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Learner
03/22/01 at 18:48:56
slm :)

[quote]This summer we'll be having our bi-annual conference, insha'llah[/quote]
Which conference will this be Kashif? Could you give me some more details. Jazaks bro.

[quote]i'll just make my own set of lectures on gender-relations. anyone interested? [/quote]
Hmmm...I'm interested... will you be going over the tafsir/commentary on "Rules that Guys Wish Girls Knew"? ;-D ;-D

wlm :)


Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
Nazir_Ismail
03/24/01 at 11:16:46
Assalaamu-Alaikum warahmatullaahi Vabarakaatuhu

Just thought i'd greet you guys.

Walaikumusalaa warahmatullahi vabarakaatuhu.

Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
h_m_r00
03/26/01 at 13:57:15
Salaam
Are not guys so harsh? We women have only a few things men need to understand. I think that those rules were written by angry men.:)
                             Hiyam
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
eleanor
04/02/01 at 12:18:29
Mashallah, what a post by Brother Alzinjibar!! I was moved to tears reading it.
As for the rules that guys wish girls knew there were definitely a few there that struck home with me. Like the shoes thing. Is it just me or do all sisters get bored quickly with shoes? It may *appear* that I have lots of shoes because the cupboard is full but in actual fact I only have about 2 pairs of shoes that I actually like wearing. Whereas my husband can happily wear the same pair of shoes for years on end and be delighted about the wearing quality of his shoes.
I dunno...any comments on this phenomenon m/f???
wasalaam
Eleanor
Re: RULES THAT GUYS WISH GIRLS KNEW
muhannad
04/02/01 at 13:51:46
[quote] Do you know how much that will cost? I'm tempted to ask you guys to guess, but muhannad will spoil it. It costs only £35 per person. [/quote]

A'oothu billah, "I only complain of my grief and sorrow to Allah, and I know from Allah what you do not know " surah yusuf

whatever happened to Husn ath-than.

Anyway on a more serious note I would say that anyone in the UK this summer, MUST go to the conference as it is excellent

p.s. I have never been to one ! By the Qadr of Allah I am usually out of the country, and this year is looking to go down the same road.



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