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| Kashif |
| 04/14/01 at 19:55:52 |
| My emphases thru'out McDonald's pays over pickle By Malcolm Brabant The McDonald's fast food chain has settled a lawsuit brought by an American woman who claimed she was disfigured by an extremely hot pickle. Details of the deal are being kept secret, but court papers said it did not amount to an admission of liability on the part of McDonald's. Veronica Martin filed a lawsuit claiming $110,000 damages for medical bills, lost wages and mental pain and anguish. In 1994, the burger chain had to pay a customer $500,000 after a cup of coffee fell into a woman's lap and scalded her. Husband deprived Veronica Martin claimed she suffered a second degree burn on her chin after a scalding hot pickle fell from one of several small hamburgers which she and her husband bought from a McDonald's restaurant in Knoxville, Tennessee. Her husband also sued for $15,000, saying that he had been deprived of the services and companionship of his wife. The lawsuit contended that the pickle was defective and unreasonably dangerous to the customer. In its rebuttal, McDonald's insisted its product was safe. The court papers say the case was settled to avoid the time and expense of a trial and was in no way an admission of liability on the part of McDonald's. The fast food giant has been burned in the courts before. Pickle warning It was once ordered to pay $2.7m dollars to a woman who spilled a cup of coffee into her lap. The damages were reduced on appeal to $500,000. But the implications of the case terrified businesses so much that they began to label their goods with warnings that are blindingly obvious. Most take-away coffee cups now bear a cautionary sign saying "hot coffee can be dangerous". What is not clear is whether McDonald's will now advise people that one of the consequences of not eating their hamburgers properly is that their spouses may be deprived of services and companionship. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1276000/1276819.stm |
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| Saleema |
| 04/15/01 at 01:51:17 |
| Salams, LOL. man, some people think of all sorts of reasons to sue for! this type of nonsense wouldn't be allowed in an Islamic state, right? I mean the *real* islamic state. wassalam |
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| eleanor |
| 04/15/01 at 12:59:38 |
| It sounds strange but it *is* possible that her chin was burned by a pickle. In every McDonalds *I* know they leave the food in the place where it stays warm for *ages*. It's supposed to be not longer than 10 minutes but they don't stick to this rule. The result is that the burgers that are wrapped as opposed to in a box, get really really hot. Especially the ketchup and the onions/pickle. because these all contain water which literally starts to cook. My question is what kind of services was she rendering to her husband that she couldn't render with a burned chin ? ( :) ) wasalaam eleanor |
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| eleanor |
| 04/15/01 at 12:57:56 |
[quote] because these all contain water which literally starts to cook. [/quote] DOH! boil..I meant the water starts to boil.. in german they say the water cooks. My mother is always giving out to me for germanising my english. |
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| muhannad |
| 04/16/01 at 19:11:51 |
| [quote]in german they say the water cooks. My mother is always giving out to me for germanising my english. [/quote] I thought you were Irish ?! (don't worry I won't crack any jokes) as for the fast food, then I think its probably more nutritious to eat the packaging ! ;-D |
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| meraj |
| 04/16/01 at 19:23:16 |
| slm, [quote]as for the fast food, then I think its probably more nutritious to eat the packaging ! ;-D[/quote] HAHAHAHAHA!!! oh man thats hilarious.. and so true ;-D |
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| eleanor |
| 04/17/01 at 12:44:35 |
| I *am* Irish, but living in Germany and speaking german every day. It's really weird but sometimes I say stupid things in english that are really german. sigh.. Alhumdoolillah I can use my english on this board. Otherwise I never speak english. and then I ring my mother after a month or so and can't think of the names for things in english. I'm not a gifted language person. wasalaam eleanor |
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| eleanor |
| 04/17/01 at 12:45:37 |
[quote] I thought you were Irish ?! (don't worry I won't crack any jokes) [/quote] Thanks! |
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| muhannad |
| 04/17/01 at 13:39:47 |
| [quote] I *am* Irish, but living in Germany and speaking german every day [/quote] I have a friend living in nearby Austria. He once said that compared to Austria, the UK was like an Islamic state ! :) What do you think of germany & the germans? Islamically are you able to live okay ? |
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| eleanor |
| 04/18/01 at 07:25:09 |
| slm this is oh so true. I seriously can't believe the promiscuity here in Germany. And I suppose Austria is the same. Like at half two in the afternoon they have a film on where there's a sex scene and you can see a naked woman from the waist up. Advertisements for shower gel, soap etc also show naked people. Sex shops have big window displays, video shops have pornographic sections which are as big as the normal section. It's perfectly normal for kids to start having sex at about the age of 14. If they don't want to the adults think something is wrong with them. I saw a talk show one day where the daughter (16) didn't want to have sex with her boyfriend. This was okay by him but the girl's father was pressurising her and saying she should have sex with her boyfriend and if not then it's a sure sign she's only using her boyfriend for presents or for having him drive her everywhere... Moslems have a *very* hard time in Germany. Mosques are generally back rooms of houses or offices. Purpose built mosques or islamic facilities are never given planning permission. It's really hard to live here as a Moslem. There's no Ummah whatsoever. I don't have one sister here. My husband has friends but they're all a bit far gone from Islam. rant rant rant (sorry) wasalaam eleanor |
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| muhannad |
| 04/18/01 at 12:40:12 |
| ouch, I actually was not asking for too much detail. What you said was more than enough, inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un. [quote] It's really hard to live here as a Moslem. There's no Ummah whatsoever. I don't have one sister here. My husband has friends but they're all a bit far gone from Islam. rant rant rant (sorry) [/quote] You don't have to apologise this is a good sign. The heart which is still alive should feel anger for the sake of Allah when corruption and mischief is widespread. Here in the west, I have seen numerous families get sucked up in the vacuum of consumerism and worldly affairs. Many times, opportunities have presented themselves (although usually less lucrative financially) to improve there situation islamically but this is put to the side in most cases. It reminds me of what a dear friend once said to me, "When I finish this degree I will work for a few years and then settle in the Middle east preferably Makka/medina so that I can study Islam. I don't want to come on the day of judgement and see people going to higher levels of jannah (e.g. our scholars) and I think to myself "why was I so stupid? I could have done the same" " What's the likelihood of yourselves making Hijrah to a country where Islam is stronger ? |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/18/01 at 12:55:47 |
| slm How difficult is it for someone coming from the west to settle in a country like Saudi Arabia? I heard they don't let you own the land? What about jobs? Does anyone know? |
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| eleanor |
| 04/18/01 at 12:56:04 |
| Inshallah! We don't plan on staying here forever Alhumdoolillah. Sorry again if my post was a bit too explicit! Reading back over it my cheeks are burning! Astafirullah!! We'd love to go to live in England, but we're very ignorant of the system there, eg social security, health and tax and all the little details that it's taken me five years living here to learn. We don't want to jump in over our heads. We don't know if we'd get jobs, a house or a flat..if we could make it at all and basically survive. I also worry about racism with regard to my husband. At the moment we're both working hard here to save up for some kind of a "big move". But in what direction I'm not sure. Allah will surely guide us. wasalaam eleanor |
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| muhannad |
| 04/18/01 at 17:14:47 |
| [quote] How difficult is it for someone coming from the west to settle in a country like Saudi Arabia? I heard they don't let you own the land? What about jobs? oes anyone know? [/quote] It depends what you go there as. Most people I have spoken to say that you should ONLY work for a western company if you can help it. Otherwise you could go through periods where you are not paid, bad conditions etc. As far as Iqamah goes then as long as you have a sponsor you can normally get it extended every 2yrs. but remember you can be kicked out at any time. Again, I believe the same applies with regard to land. You need a Saudi citizen. In my field for example they will only usually take specialists and then the conditions are not the bees knees. Ideally one would like to stay there and not have to work for a living !! |
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| Barr |
| 04/19/01 at 01:09:45 |
| Assalamu'alaikum, all... OK, I'm not trying to be biased here... but, have U guys thought of Singapore? Though it is not an Islamic Country, and though Muslims are in the minority, but I think it is an alternative place to live still. Corruption is way way waaay minimal, crime rates are low, it's a clean and safe place to stay and has political and economical stability. We're also a developed country. Education standards/ expectations are high (though this can create more stress to students). The promiscuity is not as bad as the West (though rising :( (but which country doesn't have it on the rise? ), yet, alhamdulillah, Islam is on the rise as well(though of course, we still do have a lot of social problems) Besides that, I feel that da'wah is more co-ordinated here and our mosques are very active, and Muslims do enjoy a large extent of freedom to practice it. S'poreans speak good English, so, that cuts down on communication barriers. Plus, if you're a professional, S'pore has very flexible immigration policies for you and the economy welcomes foreign talents! Well?? :):):) |
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| muhannad |
| 04/19/01 at 12:16:24 |
| [quote] Well [/quote] What you say is fair and I have heard similar things from a friend whose sister resides there. If you are a strong student of knowledge then it could be a nice place to go to. But I am talking about people like me (jahil) struggling in this sea of disbelief - I can't see places in the west as holding good long term prospects. |
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| BrKhalid |
| 04/19/01 at 12:18:59 |
| Asalaamu Alaikum ;-) [quote]OK, I'm not trying to be biased here... but, have U guys thought of Singapore? [/quote] Actually I know of a brother who went to Singapore for a couple of years and then came back to the UK and absolutely HATED it!! Last I heard he was taking his family and emigrating over there. As well as the various Islamic considerations, he found the Singaporeans to be a lot more mild mannered than the Brits. |
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| Barr |
| 04/20/01 at 15:09:43 |
| Wa'alaikumussalam warahmatullah :) [quote]Actually I know of a brother who went to Singapore for a couple of years and then came back to the UK and absolutely HATED it!![/quote] *L* OK, OK... so... a few people need a lot more convincing than the others :) but I didn't say it's all perfect... just planting a seed :) |
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