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| se7en |
| 04/16/01 at 20:33:45 |
some wackkk movie about an american businessman stuck in saudi is playing on abc right now, I think it started at 9 pm eastern time.... watch it, take notes, and report it to cair!! some alarming scenes so far, including a "judgement day" at a bazaar with a woman being stoned in public, her father hitting her with a large stone that killed her, and man getting his hand chopped off... [sigh] from checking out abc.com, a movie about tennis was supposed to be on, but they showed this instead.. pretty evil not to have any advertising so no one could protest eh? I think it's called human cargo.. watch it and take notes to report to cair.. wasalaam. |
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| Arsalan |
| 04/16/01 at 23:43:16 |
| [slm] I missed it. How was it? Any reviews? |
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| jannah |
| 04/17/01 at 00:26:08 |
| wlm, UGH it was awful... how's this for a plot, young attractive, hard working american businessman complete with 3 young children and lovely wife and house in the greenest of suburbs makes a deal with an oily saudi guy for 5 mil. he then goes out to saudi to complete the deal, ends up staying in a dingy back alley room somewhere in the bad part of the casbah. His ayrab business guy finally shows up days late, this time in abayah and kifayah. The Saudi "Suleiman", his blind "Shaykh" and all other Saudis and the gov't proceed to steal his passport and money, ransack his room, cheat, lie, denegrate, spy, follow, sue, imprison, enslave, harass and torture the American throughout the movie. He makes his only friend, an american loner living in saudi who works for "Aramco" who ends up helping him build a wooden cargo box in which said American hero finally stows away on a plane to the Neitherlands to finally escape Saudi. Hence the title of the movie Escape: Human Cargo Oh that's not all... the movie is complete with him watching a woman getting stoned to death in the street with a big rock finally doing her in from her father/husband for "thinking about adultery" and a guy getting his hand chopped off. Dirty streets and ugly lazy evil people. The dialogue is replete with comments like this one from the US State Dept representative the wife goes to, to look for help..."that's what happens when you do business with those people" or the guy when he talks to his wife "don't worry honey no women are allowed to walk in the streets here!" and at the Aramco American base complete with bikinis, beer and christmas lights, "maan i'd rather have a cold beer any day, USA man.. Yeah USA", and "in a place like this, i'd pray 5 times a day too". The Muslims mention Allah and are shown making tasbeeh as they cheat or steal from the guy. It was in my opinion one of the worst blows to Islam I've ever seen since 'Not without my Daughter'. This was not like that "the major and the princess" movie which was just ignorant and silly. This one demonstrated and reinforced every stereotype about Muslims there ever was. It was originally a made for Showtime movie made in 1998 filmed on location in Israel with Israeli actors and extras which should tell us alot. Some movies have a plot.. this one had an agenda. It was to make every American hate Saudi Arabia. And since Saudi Arabia=Islam it accomplished that as well. |
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| jannah |
| 04/17/01 at 00:23:37 |
| You know what bothered me the most about this movie. Besides all the strereotyping crap.... it was how everything they portrayed was so completely the opposite and wrong. Every American would believe that to be the true Saudi Arabia - a dirty place with evil cheating people. They will never know that Saudi Arabia is so modern, so beautiful. It is the most peaceful place on the face of the earth. You know when I came back from Umrah, everywhere here felt like how they portrayed Saudi... dirty and ugly. I can't imagine anyone, anywhere building anything like the Haram Shareef. Anyway it just makes me so ...mad and then sad that there are people who will never be able to see that. |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/17/01 at 00:34:12 |
| slm I watched ABC at 9pm and they had some tennis movie about Bobbie Riggs and Billie Jean King and Margaret Court. They didn't show that movie out here. Maybe it was just an Albany thing? ??? |
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| humble_muslim |
| 04/17/01 at 06:00:48 |
| AA a) This kind of movie is HIGHLY offensive. I hope something serious gets done about it. b) Whether you are American or Pakistani, muslim or non-muslim, the truth is that you have to be VERY careful if you an ex-pat living in Saudi. Jannah, going for Umrah does NOT give you a real insight into what's going on there. There are many stories about people getting in trouble in Saudi thru absouletly no fault of their own. As muslims, we must stand up for justice, even if it is against our own kith and kin. So here are two TRUE stories I heard from a friend whose family lived in Saudi for many years. Story No. 1 ------------ My friend's father had lived in Saudi for many years. They lived in Jeddah. One day, the father went out to get some groceries. He forgot to take his ID card. Some police from Taif were passing thru, and just for the hell of it, met the man and asked him for his ID. On seeing that he did not have one, they hauled him into the police car, took him back to Taif, and dumped him into jail. Fortunealty, his grown up kids had lived in Saudi long enough to EVENTUALLY track him down and get him out. In Saudi, when you are put in jail, you will be left there until someone comes and gets you. And you are NOT allowed to make phone calls from jail. Story No. 2 ------------ My friend's brother, who has lived in Saudi so long that he looks and talks like a native, was driving. A Saudi guy comes up on the WRONG side of a one-way street and hits him head on. The Saudi guy's Egyptian chauferr dies. My friend's brother is made to blame for the death, and ordered to pay 47,000 Riyals fidya. He doesn't have it, and so is packed off to jail. He stays in jail for a year, until his family finally work out what happened to him and bail him out. My friend and his brother are pathans. They got their revenge later on in Jordan, where they moved to. In Jordan, there were many Saudis who got drunk. When they were drunk, my friend and his brother would then beat them up. Don't get me wrong, the movie sounds abhorrent. But at the same time, while we demand our rights so much living here in the US, who talks about the derpivation of BASIC human rights in our own countries ? Moral : if you live in Saudi, make sure you have someone watching out for you! |
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| jannah |
| 04/17+01 at 09:00:11 |
| Humble I agree with you. Every country has it's faults Saudi and the U.S. included. Even going to Umrah we were very careful. We know that like most Muslim countries today, to be treated fairly or with justice is not something we would take for granted just because it is supposedly a Muslim country. The only reason we were allowed some freedom was because of our blue American passports and speaking English. However this movie was completely biased and wrong. It wasn't "the saudi govt is evil"...it was every Saudi, the gov't, the ppl, the land, the religion is evil vs. american -- which is all good. [wlm] |
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| humble_muslim |
| 04/17/01 at 12:55:00 |
| AA OK Jannah, I agree with you. SO maybe I should start another thread for people working in Saudi ? |
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| BroHanif |
| 04/17/01 at 17:13:29 |
| Jannah, You've got a good sense of humour, I must say. Keep it up. Your post on describing the movie had me in stiches. May Allah keep you laughing in this life and the next. Ameen. |
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| proudtobemuslim |
| 04/18/01 at 11:20:44 |
| Assalam-u-Alaikum, I don't like Saudi bashing coz I lived there a lot and kinda liked it... but what you say bro is correct and does happen a lot. Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips used to teach in our school a long time ago (never my class though, unfortunately). But something, just happened and he was exiled from the country. Just like that. Neither he nor his colleagues at the school know why. This is after (but not too long after) the Gulf War. Still... Riyadh Riyadh hai. Wassalam-u-Alaikum, Uzer |
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