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Self-righteous Jewish genocide
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04/30/01 at 21:36:37
The Dangers of Self-Rightousness and Perpetual Victimhood
Copyright: http://www.iviews.com
Published Tuesday April 24, 2001

By Israel Shamir



Things move really fast nowadays. Just yesterday we hardly dared to call the
Israeli policy of official discrimination against Palestinians by the harsh word
‘apartheid’. Today, as Sharon’s tanks and missiles pound defenseless cities and
villages, the word barely suffices. It has become an unjustified insult to the
white supremacists of South Africa. They, after all, did not use gun ships and
tanks against the natives, they did not lay siege to Soweto. They did not deny
the humanity of their kaffirs. The Jewish supremacists made it one better. They
have returned us, as if by magic wand, to the world of Joshua and Saul.

As the search for the right word continues, the courageous Robert Fisk proposes
calling the events in Palestine a ‘civil war’. If this is civil war, the
slaughter of a lamb is a bullfight. The disparity of forces is too just too large.
No, Virginia, it is not ‘civil war’, it is creeping genocide.

This is the point in our saga, where the good Jewish guy is supposed to take
out his hanky and exclaim: “how could we, eternal victims of persecutions, commit
such crimes!” Well, do not hold your breath waiting for this line. It happened
before and it can happen again.

Jews are not more bloodthirsty than the rest of mankind. But the mad idea of
being the Chosen ones, the idea of supremacy, whether of race or religion, is the
moving force behind genocides. If you believe God choose your people to rule
the world, if you think others but subhuman, you will be punished by the same God
whose name you took in vain. Instead of a gentle frog, he would turn you into a
murderous maniac.

"...the mad idea of being the Chosen ones, the idea of supremacy, whether of
race or religion, is the moving force behind genocides."
When the Japanese got a whiff of this malady in 1930s, they raped Nanking and
ate the liver of their prisoners. Germans, obsessed by the Aryan superiority
complex, filled Baby Yar with corpses. As thoughtful readers of Joshua and Judges,
the father-pilgrim founders of the United States tried on the ‘Chosen’ crown
and succeeded in nearly exterminating the Native American peoples.

The Jews are no exception. Outside of Jerusalem’s Jaffa gate (Bab al-Halil),
there was once a small neighborhood called Mamilla, destroyed by real estate
developers just a few years ago. In its place they created a monstrous ‘village’
for the super-rich, abutting the plush Hilton Hotel. A bit further away, there is
the old Mamilla cemetery of the Arab nobles and the Mamilla Pool, a water
reservoir dug by Pontius Pilate. During the development works, the workers came
across a burial cave holding hundreds of sculls and bones. It was adorned by a
cross and a legend: ‘God alone knows their names’. The Biblical Archaeology Review,
published by the Jewish American Herschel Shanks, printed a long feature by the
Israeli archaeologist Ronny Reich on this discovery.

The dead were laid to their eternal rest in AD 614, the most dreadful year in
the history of Palestine until the 20th century. The Scottish scholar, Adam
Smith, wrote in his Historical Geography of Palestine: "Until now, the terrible
devastation of 614 is visible in the land, it could not be healed."

By 614, Palestine was a part of the Roman successor state, the Byzantine
Empire. It was a prosperous, predominantly Christian land of well developed
agriculture, of harnessed water systems, and carefully laid terraces. Pilgrims came in
flocks to the Holy places, and the Constantine-built edifices of Holy Sepulchre
and of the Ascension on the Mount of Olives were among the manmade wonders of
the world. The Judean wilderness was enlivened by eighty monasteries, where
precious manuscripts were collected and prayers offered. Fathers of the church, St
Jerome of Bethlehem and Origenes of Caesarea, were still a living memory.

There was also a small wealthy Jewish community living in their midst, mainly
in Tiberius on the shores of the Sea of Galilee. Their scholars had just
completed their version of the Talmud, the codification of their faith, Rabbinic
Judaism; but for instruction they deferred to the prevailing Jewish community in
Persian Babylonia.

In 614, local Palestinian Jews allied with their Babylonian coreligionists and
assisted the Persians in their conquest of the Holy Land. In the aftermath of
the Persian victory, Jews perpetrated a massive holocaust of the Gentiles of
Palestine. They burned the churches and the monasteries, killed monks and priests,
burned books. The beautiful basilica of Fishes and Loaves in Tabgha, the
Ascension on Mount of Olives, St Steven opposite Damascus Gate and the Hagia Sion on
Mt Zion, are just at the top of the list of perished edifices. Indeed, very few
churches survived the onslaught. The Great Laura of St Sabas, tucked away in
the bottomless Ravine of Fire (Wadi an-Nar) was saved by its remote location and
steep crags. The Church of Nativity mirac,ulously survived: when Jews commanded
its destruction, the Persians balked. They perceived the Magi mosaic above the
lintel as the portrait of Persian kings.

This devastation was not the worst crime. When Jerusalem surrendered to the
Persians, thousands of local Christians became prisoners of war, and were herded
to the Mamilla Pool area. The Israeli archaeologist Ronny Reich writes: ‘They
were probably sold to the highest bidder. According to some sources, the
Christian captives at Mamilla Pond were bought by Jews and were then slain on the
spot’. An eyewitness, Strategius of St Sabas, was more vivid: ‘Jews ransomed the
Christians from the hands of the Persian soldiers for good money, and slaughtered
them with great joy at Mamilla Pool, and it ran with blood’. Jews massacred
60,000 Palestinian Christians in Jerusalem alone. The earth’s population was
probably about 50 million then, 100 times smaller than today. A few days later, the
Persian military understood the magnitude of the massacre and stopped the Jews.

To his credit, the Israeli archaeologist Ronny Reich does not try to shift the
blame for the massacres onto the Persians, as it is usually done nowadays. He
admits that ‘the Persian Empire was not based on religious principles and was
indeed inclined to religious tolerance’. This good man is clearly unsuitable to
write for the New York Times. That paper’s correspondent in Israel, Deborah
Sonntag, would have no trouble describing the massacre as ‘retaliatory strike by
the Jews who suffered under Christian rule’.

"...there is nothing more dangerous than the feeling of self-righteousness and
perpetual victimhood reinforced by a one-sided historical narrative.  
The holocaust of the Christian Palestinians in year 614 is well documented and
you will find it described in older books, for instance in the three volumes of
Runciman’s History of The Crusades. It has been censored out of modern guides
and history books. It is a pity, as without this knowledge one cannot understand
the provisions of the treaty between the Jerusalemites and Caliph Omar ibn
Khattab, concluded in year 638. In the Sulh al Quds, as this treaty of capitulation
is called, Patriarch Sofronius demanded, and the powerful Arab ruler agreed to
protect the people of Jerusalem from the ferocity of the Jews.

After the Arab conquest, a majority of Palestinian Jews accepted the message of
the Messenger, as did the majority of Palestinian Christians, albeit for
somewhat different reasons. For local Christians, Islam was a sort of Nestorian
Christianity, but without icons, without Constantinople’s interference and without
Greeks. (The Greek domination of the Palestinian church remains a problem for
the local Christians to this very day.)

For ordinary local Jews, Islam was the return, to the faith of ,Abraham and
Moses, as they could not follow the intricacies of the new Babylonian faith
anyway. The majority of them became Muslims and blended into Palestinian population.
The accommodation of Jews to Islam did not stop in the 7th century.  A thousand
years later, in the 17th century, the greatest spiritual leaders of the
new-founded Sephardi Jewish community of Palestine, Sabbatai Zevi and Nathan of Gaza,
the successors to the glorious Spanish mystic tradition of Ari the Saint of
Safed, also embraced ‘the law of mercy’, as they called Islam. Their descendants,
the comrades of Ataturk, saved Turkey from the onslaught of the European troops
during WWI.

Modern Jews do not have to feel guilty for the misdeeds of Jews long gone. No
son is responsible for the sins of his father. Israel could have turned this
mass grave with its Byzantine chapel and mosaics into a small and meaningful
memorial, reminding its citizens of a horrible page in the history of the land and
of the dangers of genocidal supremacy. Instead, the Israeli authorities
preferred to demolish the tomb and create an underground parking lot in its place. It
did not cause a murmur.

The Israeli guardians of the Jewish conscience, Amos Oz and others, have
objected to the destruction of the ancient remains. No, not of the tomb at Mamilla.
They ran a petition against the keepers of the Haram a-Sharif mosque complex for
digging a ten-inch trench to lay a new pipe. It did not matter to them that, in
an op-ed in Haaretz, the leading Israeli archaeologist of the area denied all
relevance of the mosque works to science. They still described it as ‘a barbaric
act of Muslims aimed at the obliteration of the Jewish heritage of Jerusalem’.
Among the signatories, I found, to my amazement and sorrow the name of Ronny
Reich. One thinks, he might tell them who obliterated the vestiges of the Jewish
heritage at Mamilla Pool.

Why do I find it necessary to tell the story of the Mamilla bloodbath? Because
there is nothing more dangerous than the feeling of self-righteousness and
perpetual victimhood reinforced by a one-sided historical narrative. Here again,
the Jews are not unique. Eric Margolis of the Toronto Sun wrote about Armenians
inflamed by the story of their holocaust. They massacred thousands of their
peaceful Azeri neighbors in the 1990s, and caused the uprooting of 800,000 native
non-Armenians. ‘It’s time to recognize all world’s horrors’, Margolis concludes.

Censored history creates a distorted picture of reality. Recognition of past is
a necessary step on the way to sanity. The Germans and the Japanese have
recognized the crimes of their fathers, have came to grips with their moral failings
and have emerged as humbler, less boastful folks, akin to the rest of human
race. We Jews have so far failed to exorcise the haughty spirit of the Chosenness,
and found ourselves in a dire predicament.

That is why the idea of supremacy is still with us, still calling for genocide.
In 1982, Amos Oz met an Israeli, who shared with the writer his dream of
becoming a Jewish Hitler to the Palestinians. Slowly this dream is becoming a
reality.

The Haaretz published an ad on its front page, a fatwa, signed by a group of
Rabbis. The Rabbis proclaimed the theological identification of Ishmael, i.e. the
Arabs, with the Amalek. ‘Amalek’ is mentioned in the Bible as the name of a
tribe that caused trouble for the Children of Israel. In this story, the God of
Israel commands His people to exterminate the Amalek tribe completely, including
its livestock. King Saul botched the job: he exterminated them all right, but
failed to kill nubile unwed maidens. This ‘failure’ cost him  his crown. The
obligation to exterminate the people of Amalek is still counted among the tenets
of the Jewish faith, though for centuries nobody made the identification of a
living nation with the accursed tribe.

There was one exclusion showing how dangerous the ruling is. At the end of
WWII, some Jews, including the late Prime Minister Menachem Begin, identified the
Germans with Amalek. Indeed, a Jewish religious socialist and a fighter against
Nazis, Abba Kovner, hatched in 1945 a plot to poison the water supply system of
German cities and to kill ‘six million Germans’. He obtained poison from the
future President of Israel, Efraim Katzir. Katzir supposedly thought Kovner
intends to poison ‘only’ a few thousands of German POW’s. The plan mercifully
flopped when Kovner was stopped by British officials in a European port. This story
was published last year in Israel in a biography of Kovner written by Prof Dina
Porat, head of Anti-Semitism Research Centre at Tel Aviv University.

In plain English, the Rabbis’ fatwa means: our religious duty is to kill all
Arabs, including women and babies and their livestock; to the last cat. The
liberal Haaretz, whose editor and owner are sufficiently versed to understand the
fatwa, did not hesitate to place the ad.

Some Palestinian activists recently criticized me for associating with the
marginal Russian weekly Zavtra and for quoting the American weekly Spotlight. I
wonder why they have not condemned me for writing in Haaretz? Zavtra and Spotlight
have never published a call to genocide, after all.

It would be unfair to single out Haaretz. Another prominent Jewish newspaper,
The Washington Post, published an equally passionate call to genocide by Charles
Krauthammer. This adept of king Saul cannot rely upon his audience’s knowledge
of the Bible, so he refers to General Powell’s slaughter of routed Iraqi troops
at the end of the Gulf war. He quotes Colin Powell saying of the Iraqi army,
"First we're going to cut it off, then we're going to kill it." For Krauthammer,
with his carefully chosen quotes, multitudes of slain Arabs do not qualify for
human pronoun ‘them’. They are an ‘it’. In the last stage of the war in the
Gulf, immense numbers of retreating and disarmed Iraqis were slaughtered in cold
blood by the US Air Force, their bodies buried by bulldozers in the desert sand
in huge and nameless mass graves. The numbers of victims of this hecatomb are
estimated from one hundred thousand to half a million. God alone knows their
names.

Krauthammer wants to repeat this feat in Palestine. ‘It’ is already cut off,
divided by the Israeli army into seventy pieces. Now it is ready for the great
kill. ‘Kill it!’, he calls with great passion. He must be worried that the
Persians will again stop the bloodbath before the Mamilla Pool fills up. His worries
are our hopes.

 

______________________

Israel Shamir is one of the best-known and respected Russian Israeli writers
and journalists. He wrote for Haaretz, BBC, Pravda and translated Agnon, Joyce
and Chandler into Russian. He lives in Tel Aviv and writes a weekly column in the
Vesti, the biggest Russian-language paper in Israel.

Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
Anik
05/01/01 at 01:03:09
A.A.

hmmmmmm... interesting

points a lot of fingers though i think

i just wanna see someone write something from a Jewish perspective cause i was hearing a Jew defend Israel's position quite well actually.

that way, we can try to argue with them from their viewpoint

i think the Israeli position isn't well-known, they just do what they do, so it's hard to tackle them


and true, we can't really say anything about the past and accuase ppl because muslims as well have done atrocious things in the past and have been discriminatory.

I guess politics and ideal religoous life is totally separate,

so I want to find out more froma anyone before i jump into judgment.
any help, fellow  brothers and sisters? A.A. anik,.
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
jehad
05/01/01 at 07:13:24
asalm walakum, the stuff about mustafa kemal and his family is a lie, his family fained conversion to islam to distroy it from within, they distroyed the khilafah and deislamised the heart of islam. they let in the european armies not hulted them. the jewish propagander in turkey makes it look like they saved turkey and modernised it, but just look at the facts, they turned a super power in to a begger.
they killed ulimah and educated the people in to kufr and closed any means of the people learning true islam.
Mustfa kemal was a jew and once he consolidated his power he started ranting on about how he hates islam and was even seen openly praying as a jew.

The jews have done the above and more, we as people who live amoung the kaffar must not fall pray to their propagander, a lot of books state crimes commited by muslims, before excepting their word for it, we should remember they are liers.
and we should also remember that muslims are a people who follow the true religion, that is clearly true. would some one who fears allah and the last day truely do what the kaffar accuse us of doing?
the kaffar accuse us of being barraic due to people like saddam, but who put saddam in power? was it us or them? whose way of life does saddam rule by? ours or theirs? sddam is a example of them, cause saddam is a kaffar just like them. and all the kaffar are one body! and that goes for all the rulers of today.
the jews have good arguments for their case not due to facts, but due the censership and lies. they lie and when any one speaks out about their lies they shut them up using laws.
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
Anik
05/01/01 at 11:17:38
aslaamu alaikum,


BRO!  now I think we're hitting on something -

it's true that u can't say anything to that group of ppl because laws will clap you down

here's the thing,

I seriosuly don't know if u can say Saddam is not muslim, that's not our place

anyways,

i still want the Israeli viewpoint

I am not here to bash another group here

for some reason, I just feel that whenever anyone else makes a mistake,

ior a group of people do something wrong, they're automatically all bad to muslims and ppl say "look, look at those non-muslims"

but when Islamic groups go wrong, all of the sudden, the muslims are quick to say that it isn't us or the ideal Islam, it's some ppl

the Jews are a religion and a group (separate actually)

either that or accept that, or I think let ppl think of Islam as one (religion and a group) as well

I'm not saying i'm not on the muslim's side here, i'm jut saying that we have to speak carefully.

anyone wanna hear the Israeli view I heard the other day?

maybe some brothers and sisters can help to then poke hole sin that so i can speak to this person again. asalaamu alaikum.anik,.
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
Ali
05/01/01 at 11:29:38

assalam alaikum,

I remember my mother used to know an old Turkish lady who's father was an ex-president of Iraq, she was part Turkish, and said that she knew for a fact that mustapha kamel was jewish, and that they only found out about it after his death. I think he was from Albania originally.

salam wa rahmat'Allah
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
Arsalan
05/01/01 at 11:46:57
[slm]

Jew or not, he was definitely among the [i]maghdoobi 3layhim[/i]

Those who incurred Allah's wrath! (1:7)
EU threatens to punish Israel by stripping tra
SuperHiMY
05/01/01 at 12:52:00


       AsalamAlay.com,
       Peace and e-Greetings be upon you,

       ...and now for some [i]good[/i] news:

       From:  [url]http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20010427/545647.html[/url]



EU threatens to punish Israel by stripping trade privileges


Peter Goodspeed
National Post, with files from news services

The European Union is threatening to strip Israel of special trade privileges worth millions of dollars a year as punishment for the use of excessive force against Palestinians.

Newspapers in Europe and Israel reported yesterday EU governments are considering adopting a string of punitive measures to underline their objections to the policies of Ariel Sharon, Israel's new Prime Minister.

The 15-nation EU is trying to boost its political profile in the Middle East, where it is the biggest aid donor.

For months it has been keeping the Palestinian Authority financially afloat against an economic blockade imposed by Israel in an effort to halt months of violence.

Brussels pumps about $220- million a year into the Palestinian Authority and spends another $700-million in four neighbouring Arab states.

European countries are expected to make key decisions on their approach to the region at two crucial foreign ministers meetings next month, say the Israeli newspaper Haaretz and two British newspapers the Guardian and The Daily Telegraph.

France is reportedly leading a campaign to suspend Israel's prized association agreement with the EU, which gives the Jewish state preferential trade terms worth millions of dollars.

The 1995 agreement also provides for high-level political contacts and co-operation in several key areas.

Lately, Israel has been seeking to expand the agreement to increase co-operation on matters involving science and technology, and to boost agricultural trade.

Israel exported US$6.9-billion to Europe last year and imported US$11.8-billion, according to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics. The EU is Israel's largest trading partner, accounting for 32% of its exports and 41% of its imports.

In the past, Israel has been defended in the EU by traditional friends such as the Netherlands, Sweden and Britain, but European public opinion has gradually hardened in recent months over Israel's attempts to quell the latest Palestinian uprising on the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

A crucial factor seems to have been anger over the Israeli government's decision to push its military into Palestinian-held zones once regarded as virtually sacrosanct under the Oslo peace accords.

Last week, the EU signalled its tough new line by condemning Israel's 24-hour incursion into the Gaza Strip and its attacks on Syrian military targets in Lebanon as "excessive and disproportionate."

In recent months, the EU has been urging Israel to lift its economic blockade of Palestinian areas in the West Bank and Gaza, saying the resulting hardship is detrimental to the peace process.

The Israeli army sealed off the areas after the latest violence erupted, preventing more than 100,000 workers from reaching their jobs in Israel.

Israel has also blocked roads to the Palestinian areas with concrete blocks and army patrols. In recent weeks, it dug a 16-kilometre-long waterless moat around the desert town of Jericho.

Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
jehad
05/01/01 at 14:48:02
asalm walakum
when sadam came in to power he ananced "now islam is dead, your new god is arab nationalism"
even if he did not do this anancement, some one who legislates, makes legal what allah made illigal, or illigle what allah made ligle, has done a act of major kufr, his kufr is of the likes of a man prostrating to a idol. he is kaffar, his wife does not need a divorce from him to leave him as there is no marrage between a mushrik and a muslim. if his wife sleeps with him she is comitting fornication. if he dies no muslim can pray janazah for him and his relatives can not inheret from him.
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
Saleema
05/01/01 at 22:59:57
[slm]

Israel Shamir *is* Jewish. So if Noam Chomsky. So is Steven Ferustein. So is Uri Avnery. So was Einstein.

If you want the jewish viewpoint go to www.time.com or the new york times or to www.newsweek.com and www.washingtonpost.com.
and read anything about Israel.

If you want the jewish viewpoint then read articles written by
Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson. One of them recently said that the Israelis are being too nice to Palestinians. That their point.

Good site: www.jewsnotzionist.com

i highly recommend this site.

[wlm]
Saleema

When Jews Wore Turbans
SuperHiMY
05/03/01 at 12:26:08



      AsalamAlay.com,
      Peace and e-Greetings be upon you,

      Despite the expected bias in this article,
      I found the following article useful.

      Something I never thought of before
      although I've seen pictures of the
      Great Andalusian Torah Scholar Maimonides
      in a Turban, I never thought to wonder
      where the Yarmulka is derived from:

       [url]http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shokel/900406_Turbans.html[/url]


    It would seem that most Canadian Jews were pleased with the recent decision upholding the Sikhs' right to wear turbans in the RCMP. After all, many of us also have vested interests in keeping our heads covered as part of our own traditional religious observances. A skull-cap is of course easier to accommodate than a turban, as it may be discreetly placed underneath a Mountie hat.
But some of our ancestors were also turban-wearers. As with many items in Jewish history, this fact continues to affect us in some surprising ways.

To take a rather simple example: the daily prayers recited by observant Jews include a benediction praising God "Who crowns Israel with glory."

Though the common practice currently is to recite this blessing in the synagogue, the original custom was to say it as one was getting dressed. The Talmud says clearly that one was to say it while wrapping the turban around his head. In fact, the commentators make a special point of noting that it is appropriate to make the blessing over other types of headgear as well...

Newcomers to Hebrew have to learn that the Hebrew word for "to wear" (labash) can be used for most garments, but a different verb must be used to indicate the wearing of a hat: habash. The verb actually means "to wrap" (and is the root of the word for "bandage" for example). Its origin dates back to a time when the only thing a well-dressed Jew would be likely to be wearing on his head was a turban, a long piece of cloth that would have to be wrapped around the head.

It appears that among the Jews of Babylonia the turban was felt to have special spiritual efficacy. It is told of one rabbi for whom the astrologers had foretold a life of crime, that as a counter-measure his mother insisted on his wearing a turban at all times. Once during his childhood, when it accidentally unravelled, he found himself unable to resist the temptation to take a bite at someone else's dates.

In general it seems that the turban was viewed as the distinctive mark of Torah scholars, who saw their wearing such a head-covering as a sign of special piety.



With the rise of Islam, the turban came to be considered the "crown of the Arabs" and the "badge of Islam." The honourable status that attached to the wearing of a turban created problems for the Jews of Muslim lands.
Officially, Jews were considered a tolerated minority (dhimmis) whose social inferiority was to be enforced by law. In the 17th Century "Pact of Omar," which defined the status of non-Muslims in the Islamic empire, the Jews and Christians agreed "not to attempt to resemble the Muslims in any way with regard to their dress, as for example with the...turban..."

As with similar dress restrictions that were often imposed upon their brethren in Christian Europe, this kind of law would often prove difficult to enforce, since Jews frequently developed amicable personal relationships with individual Muslims. The official authorities often responded to such social mingling by insisting that the Jews don identifiable apparel that would visibly indicate their inferior social position.

The Jewish turbans became a frequent target of Muslim reformist zeal. At times Jews were required to wear distinguishing marks on their turbans; on other occasions a limit would be set to the length of winding cloth that could be used for the turban (10 ells maximum, according to a decree of the Mamluk Sultan al-Malik al-Salih in 1354). The 16th century Sultan Murad III forbade the Jews altogether from wearing turbans.

Historians take the view that the frequency with which such regulations had to be repeated indicates how ineffective they probably were in real life.

Perhaps the most familiar turban in Jewish tradition topped the head of Rabbi Moses Maimonides, the noted 12th-century rabbi and philosopher. The same traditional portrait of Maimonides' stern, bearded visage has been appearing on the title pages of his works since the beginnings of Jewish printing.

In spite of the portrait's widespread acceptance, it has always seemed to me somewhat suspicious. It did not appear until many centuries after the Egyptian sage's lifetime, and it is doubtful that such a picture would have been commissioned by Maimonides himself, who shared his society's rigid disapproval of representational art.

My suspicions seemed to be confirmed a few years back when I visited Jerusalem's L. A. Meyer Museum of Islamic Culture. There among the many fascinating artifacts was sitting a copy of the familiar portrait of Maimonides--except that according to the caption on the exhibit, it was a 16th century Turkish merchant!

It would seem that the early Hebrew printers in Venice or Constantinople, eager to supply their readers with a tangible likeness of the Egyptian Jewish scholar, had simply pulled out an available piece of "clip art" that conveyed a rough image, of what he might have looked like. That picture has defined our conception of Maimonides ever since.

And to think: If he were among us now, he could join the RCMP...



 .......


 
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
chachi
05/09/01 at 18:55:36

Himy Maimonides was rejected as a heretic by rabbi's in his day because he used to associate with muslim scholars and study falsafa from them...it's only now they say he's a great scholar because he used islamic falsafa to answer their problems
Re: Self-righteous Jewish genocide
SuperHiMY
05/11/01 at 22:35:06




       AsalamAlay.com Chachi
       Peace and e-Greetings be upon you,

       Yeah, I remember learning about that now.
       How his own community had problems cuz of his coziness with Muslims.


       Here, in Toronto Canada,

       One of the best Teaching Hospitals is Mount Sinai.

       There is a Plaque with a dedication of the Hospital
       when it originally opened in the main hall on the first floor.

       Maimonides name is there, right there in the dedication
       for all who bother to read...

       I don't have an answer, at least satisfactory to myself
       as to why the Children of Israel do NOT evangelize about
       The Catholic inquisition of Spain the way they do about
       the Nazi Holocaust.


       ?


     


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