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| Need Advice [Divorce based upon Saudi Arabia?] |
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| Anonymous |
| 05/15/01 at 00:43:13 |
| Bismillah Salamalaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam, I had a question about something very important. One of my relatives is a strong saudi supporter which we think in our family is wrong for numerous reasons. Is it right for this person who is married to one of my cousins to get a divorce based on their beliefs about shariah law and the saudi govt? The person who supports Saudia Arabia does not know several of the following things: 1) Saudi Arabia is controlled by America and there are over 5000 troops on guard to protect the country. The monarchy govt that is established does not seek protection from Allah, instead seeking protection from the kufr troops there which is Shirk. 2) The Shariah LAw in saudia arabia is wrong becuase they do not practice it to what is mandated in Islam. They let dozens of their own kind get away with crime but foreigner's hands and head are chopped off without a trial or anything. The question I have is it right for my cousin to divorce this family member based on these beliefs? Anyone who supports Shirk is also a mushrik right? Thanks for your time. |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/15/01 at 18:30:35 |
| AA What particluar beliefs are you talking about ? |
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| Kashif |
| 05/15/01 at 18:47:08 |
| assalaamu alaikum I think it would be better if you spoke to a shaikh about this strange situation your cousin is in. But am i getting this right, a divorce is in the air based on whether one spouse shows allegiance and loyalty to Saudi or not? Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| chachi |
| 05/16/01 at 16:35:46 |
Hmmm in what way do they support the saudia? does he agree with their actions despite knowing the fatwa that have been given by the scholars of the past? or is this a sunni / wahhabi issue? |
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| Anonymous |
| 05/17/01 at 14:10:12 |
| Salam Alaikum Chaci, what do you mean is this in regards to a fatwa. What fatwa do you mean; The divorce is based on the fact that he is a Saudi supporter (one who supports munafiqs--not all Saudis but majority of them). It's becuz the Saudis claim to be following the Quran and Sunnah but they have troops in their country protecting them. Allah says to seek Protection of Him not the kufars. Also, the govt of the country is messed up. It is based on a monarchy system (not khilafah). In other words, the govt should not be following the british system. Hope I answered your ?'s. Thanks |
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| chachi |
| 05/17/01 at 18:02:14 |
hmm salaam BroAnonymous... lol sorry i should have made this clear hadrat umar forbade the yahood to live in the hijaz somebody let them back in and not only that but let sex shops that they own into arabia! read the article which i posted from imam ghazzali's ihya about how we regard those who support tyrants “And whosoever does not rule by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun (Disbelievers).” [TMQ 5:44] See also the book 'defending the muslim lands'..which fatwa bin baaz signed when the ussr invaded afghanistan and then ignored later albani to his credit stated he didn't agree with the actions of the saud as well as rulings by their own scholars who are now locked up in various torture centres unless of course you are claiming Anonymous that they are not tyrants... there is a sufficient body of material including books etc on their actions for you to peruse |
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| Anonymous |
| 05/18/01 at 15:38:29 |
| Salam Alaikum Chacai, where is tha article you posted by Ghazali in regards to supporting tyrants. Also, where can I find the fatwa by Sh. Baaz (the one you mentioned in your last response). Oh, off course I believe one who supports the disbelievers are tyrants--no objection to that. Is it allowed for us to call them munafiqs since they claim to be from Ahul-Sunnah? I know the story behind what they did to Afghanistan and what they are doing now in regards to supporting a zalimun group such as the Taliban (supporting blindly that is). Innocent muslims are being killed for no reason and they are dropping bombs on the lives of kids, women, and men. Like Hamza Yusuf said, dropping bombs are for cowards. Al'Hamdulillah there is a man by the name of Ahmad Shah Masood (aka Lion of the Desert) who is following the way of Allah and his Messenger SAAS for fighting in His way. If only Muslims could unite. |
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| chachi |
| 05/18/01 at 20:29:59 |
do a word search for ihya ... or better yet read a copy of it yourself! man i am getting real sick of repeating myself! for the nth time the book is called 'Defending the muslim lands' and it's a fatwa complete with proofs from all the ulema of the past written by a student of Bin Baaz which he approved ok? See also the statement by Hadrat Abu Bakr "O people! I have been put in charge over you, but I am not the best of you. If I act well, then help me, and if I act badly, then put me right. Truthfulness is a trust and lying is treachery. The weak among you is strong in my sight until I restore his right to him, Allah willing. The strong among you is weak in my sight until I take the right from him, Allah willing. People do not abandon jihad in the way of Allah but that Allah afflicts them with humiliation. Shamelessness does not spread in a people but that Allah envelops them in affliction. Obey me as long as I obey Allah and His Messenger. If I disobey Allah and His Messenger, you owe me no obedience. (Sira Ibn Hisham) " see also the fatwa by sheikh uthman dan fodio tyrranical rulers can be overthrown when 'Secular laws are substituted for the Shari'a, pagan customs and behaviour replace Islamic morality; oppressive taxation, usurpation and the confiscation of property replace the Islamic system of taxation and fiscal policies, and Islamic inheritance laws are abandoned in favour of pagan whims." |
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