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Sheesha, anyone?
Ruqayyah
05/18/01 at 01:24:23
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ok so i have a question about sheesha, or argeela, or hookah, whatever you would like to call it. and i posted it here, since i figured maybe the guys might know a little bit more about this topic than i do. i know it's something that is done in the middle east and in pakistan/india and that part of the world. so, is it ok for people to smoke it, health-wise, and Islamically?

[wlm]

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nehar
05/18/01 at 08:32:16
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that stuff stinks!!!
also its not good 4 ur health

[wlm]
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eleanor
05/18/01 at 09:33:02
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I thought Sheesha meant window??

wasalaam
eleanor
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jannah
05/18/01 at 09:57:30
wlm,

it means glass in urdu
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jehad
05/18/01 at 10:59:00
cooooooool buble buble........ hehehehehehehehhe
it doen't always stink, you can get apple, cherry and a lot of others....
oh, may be i shouldn't have writen this?
if people start complainning, some one delete this?
hasheesh..
princess
05/18/01 at 14:17:57
as'salaamualikum :)

i'd just like to say, for all the houstonians..there's a place off of westhimer called "star cafe" that's got madd supply for this stuff :) ppl be smoking it up in there :) there's mainly arabs that go there :) don't ask how i know ;) heheh :) later langur ;-D
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Arsalan
05/18/01 at 15:54:53
Why in the WORLD is this thread in the Ikhwan Health Club? ? ?

First Aliens, now this?

What exactly are you sisters trying to imply?!?
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chachi
05/18/01 at 21:52:30

errm i think the girls have this image that us bro's sit on couches smoking hooka's and twirl our mustaches...lol
Sheesha Kabobs!
bhaloo
05/18/01 at 23:30:42
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[quote]there's a place off of westhimer called "star cafe" that's got madd supply for this stuff [/quote]

How do you know? ???

Anyways, doesn't sheesha have tobacco in it?  You are basically smoking tobacco, right?
sheesha kabobs! <~no comment..
princess
05/19/01 at 13:39:15
walikumas'salaam warahamtullah :)

[quote]How do you know? ???[/quote]

plz note what i said in my last post :)

[quote]don't ask how i know ;)[/quote]

nuff said ;) heheh :) later langur ;-D  
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Ruqayyah
05/19/01 at 20:14:51
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Please forgive me if the brothers took offense for having this post specifically posted here, my intentions weren't malicious. I just have heard more guys talk about it than girls. I have read that it was usually men who would do it in our parent's generation, but I'm sure these days it's spread equally across both sexes. hope i didn't cause a ruckus, just wanted some more info on what it was.

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Ruqayyah
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The-Doctor
05/19/01 at 23:26:34
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Sheesha? Not a good thing to get hooked on. Last semester I was taking a class with this fellow who loved the sheesha, one day he came in complaining of lung problems.


With that in mind, perhaps we should all keep away from actually smoking the sheesha. What you can do though, is just fill the stuff up with water and use no tobacco or anything, so basically you'll be smoking water hehehe.

Those of you out there who are curious about it ...

Quell that curiousity with something else

Preferably something that is not addictive :)

Have a bebzi or two ;)

some doctor..
princess
05/20/01 at 01:51:48
as'salaamualikum :)

[quote]Have a bebzi or two ;)[/quote]

don't u know bebsi/coke is bad for u? ??? [shakin head] later langur ;-D
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Harun
05/20/01 at 04:11:00
sheesha's just as bad as a coke... nothing in excess... but its a nice relaxer... and the smoking hit is significantly less than a cigarette... and ive gotten opinions both ways... choice...  
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nehar
05/21/01 at 08:29:45
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i thought sheesha meant glass 2, lol. any ways i call it hooka!!!

[wlm]

Nehar
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jannah
05/22/01 at 01:37:51
uh i'm getting a weird message here, are you guys saying it's "OK" to smoke sheesha?? from what i understood it was a drug no?? whats the difference between that and smoking weed...or even drinking, that relaxes you right/???!!!!



[quote]coke... nothing in excess... but its a nice relaxer[/quote]
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Arsalan
05/22/01 at 01:58:14
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Jannah, "sheesha" (or huqqah) is not a drug like weed or an intoxicant.  It's got nicotine.  It's like cigarettes.  I still don't know exactly what the ruling is about it though.  I've heard from people that the harm from it is less than cigarettes though.
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jannah
05/22/01 at 02:03:24
wlm,

hmm most of the scholars you talk to today agree that cigarette smoking is haram
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Ruqayyah
05/22/01 at 02:22:15
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ok, so i looked for some scientific facts about sheesha smoking and this is what i found:


Author
Al-Fayez SF; Salleh M; Ardawi M; Zahran FM  
Title
Effects of sheesha and cigarette smoking on pulmonary function of Saudi males and females.
Appears In
TROPICAL AND GEOGRAPHICAL MEDICINE. vol. 40, no. 2 (1988 Apr): 115-23.

"...It is concluded that sheesha smoking as well as cigarette smoking, will produce similar harmful effects on the function of ventilatory capacity of both male and female subjects and increase the risk of developing obstructive airway disease, with sheesha smokers being at a greater risk."

Author
Zahran F; Yousef AA; Baig MH  
Title
A study of carboxyhaemoglobin levels of cigarette and sheesha smokers in Saudi Arabia.
Appears In
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PUBLIC HEALTH. vol. 72, no. 7 (1982 Jul): 722-4.
Journal Info Abbreviation: Am J Public Health. Journal Subset: AIM. IM.. Country of Publication: UNITED STATES.  
Abstract
A single carboxyhaemoglobin (COHb) estimation of late evening blood sample among non-smokers, cigarette smokers, and sheesha smokers was evaluated among Saudis. The COHb level in smokers of 15 to 40 cigarettes a day ranged between 0.7 and 10.3 with a mean value of 6.1 +/- 2.58 COHb. Values among sheesha smokers ranged between 6.5 and 13.9 with a mean value of 8.8 +/- 1.83, significantly higher than those of cigarette smokers (P less than 0.001) for a given degree of exposure to tobacco smoke.

So it seems that smoking sheesha, at least on a regular basis is on par or perhaps even worse than smoking cigarettes. even though there is supposedly less tobacco in sheesha, there's more carbon monoxide which is bad bad bad. So i guess even one puff can be one puff too many.


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Ruqayyah

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nehar
05/22/01 at 08:46:15
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if in doubt weather it is halal or not, then avoid.  b safe then sorry!!!

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Nehar
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Yasminejaan
06/14/01 at 07:41:55
Salaam Alaykum
It's HASHESH in Arabic not sheesha...
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shadow493
06/14/01 at 09:28:31
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ppl be smoking it up in there
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wow... so sr. Princess... u just walk out there and u see plenty of ppl 8-)8-)8-)8-)
amazin... thats neat... but im sure that stuff is bad for ur health (like what Nehar said)

lol... sr. Princess... dont hate, participate ;)

[wlm]

adami
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PacificBreeze
06/19/01 at 03:53:41
um most def, shariah rule ne thing intoxicant/harmful to ur body is haraam. ---> nicotine

i thought sheesha is glass..n hookah the smoking stuff...so........why how'd it get named 'sheesha'???
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Safiya
07/09/01 at 08:18:10
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aah hasheesh..im thinking what is sheesha...

i've always know it to be a drug....not good 4 health like others...

hate 8-) DO NOT participate!!!!!
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Lisha
07/10/01 at 18:26:58
slm,
i also thought sheesha was glass LOL, never mind!!!
ne ways i thought nething addictive like smokin or hooka is haram???
Like Nehar said, stick on da safe side;)
oh yaeh i nearly 4 got to say, y would ne 1 smoke dat stuff, it stinks real bad:( i hate it when ppl smoke infront of me or ne 1 else!! (if they wanna ruin their health, go a head. but y make us suffer???)

please excuse me, i'm babbling again;)

w'salaam
ima hater @ the moment..
princess
07/23/01 at 11:28:01
as'salaamualikum ;-D

[quote]wow... so sr. Princess... u just walk out there and u see plenty of ppl 8-)8-)8-)8-)[/quote]

all the ppl that were in there..(i think it was like 6/7 ppl) they all had the tall thingy and the pipe either in their hand or in the mouth..my cousin and i were the only 2 ppl eating :) :o :) hota hai :) i won't go there again :) feamanAllah ;-D
What was on the menu?
bhaloo
07/23/01 at 11:35:32
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[quote]my cousin and i were the only 2 ppl eating :) D [/quote]

Were these on the menu?  Sheesh(a) kabobs and Smoked Salmon? :)  I don't know about the rest of the US but out in California its illegal for someone to smoke indoors in any public establishment.  Which is good, cause I always end up coughing or having a runny nose if someone is smoking.
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princess
07/31/01 at 12:48:53
walikumas'salaam warahamtullah ;-D

[quote]Were these on the menu?  Sheesh(a) kabobs and Smoked Salmon? :) [/quote]

the sheesha didn't come with the food :) sorry to burst ur bubble :) it was regular food..i don't even remember what i had ;) 8-) feamanAllah ;-D


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