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| Anonymous |
| 05/23/01 at 22:30:09 |
| Salaam, I have a question why do arabs hate jews so much? i have noticed that everytime arabs speak of the jews its usually negative. what is the past history here. ps: oh and i am muslim not a jew w'salaams |
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| chachi |
| 05/24/01 at 07:51:20 |
hmm this is a muslim board not a 'arab' board jannah can you lock this thread it's a troll |
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| jannah |
| 05/24/01 at 08:58:40 |
| what's a troll? i think it would be good for us to answer this question. anonymous, muslims as you know are not people of hate, it is not for us to judge what is in anyone's heart. however the things the yahood are doing right now in palestine are abominable. what would it be like to have all of your rights taken away one by one, your home, your posessions, the lives of your loved ones, the lives of your children, AND the world thinks it is YOU who is in the wrong... please take a minute and listen to the msa radio show on palestine on jannah.org/resources the brother on there is an american muslim and has been to jerusalem, you can hear is eyewitness account of the brutality there. now as muslims we must be just, even to our enemies... but how can a mother not have pain in her heart every time she thinks of her child shot in the streets like some kind of vermin. how can a sister not wonder why her brother has been in jail the last 9 YEARS and they have yet to produce any kind of evidence against him. BTW as a Muslim you should feel the pain of your fellow Muslims, Arab or not, as well. We are one body and when one part is under pain or oppression you should feel it as if it is your own. You should also stand up to this injustice against humanity. Please as Muslims we need to educate ourselves on what is happenning around the world to Muslims, it is the LEAST we can do. |
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| chachi |
| 05/24/01 at 17:59:37 |
a troll is a type of mythological creature which waits along certain well defined routes to ambush people..catch my drift? *sigh* ok jannah 'nonymous 1) we are not racially against jews so your view of arab v jew is something we do not accept...ONLY the 'israeli' media describes the conflict as a racial conflict essentially since after the end of apartheid south africa (they were allies who developed biological weapons together to kill arabs and to kill africans till Clinton warned the israeli's they would suffer serious consequences if the virus to kill black people was EVER used 2) we are not religiously against jews so jew v muslim is not correct because there are muslim and jewish groups that get along perfectly well.. see http://jewsnotzionists.com and the hompage of the neturei karta and therefore we bear them no ill will and have NO PROBLEM with them living in AL-QUDS (the words quds means the sanctuary in hebrew and arabic and is thus more correct than temple which is a roman term) 3) we are ABSOLUTELY against zionism because it is a racist ideology that bizzarely dosn't believe in god but claims god gave them palestine and identify it with the abomination of desoltaion predicted to enter al-quds/jerusalem in 1967 which 'israel' did in the 6 day war this ideology believes that the arabs are sub-human or cockroaches to quote an israeli general who deserve to be wiped out wholesale we oppose zionism on the same grounds that we opposed apartheid era south africa..that any form of racism is an abomination and that mankind shares the same parents and we also oppose it on historical grounds that only during muslim rule has there ever been peace in al-quds and that god has no chosen race except those who worship him and do good hope that helps |
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| kiwi25 |
| 05/24/01 at 22:26:11 |
| salaam, anonymous - i am an arab and i dont have problems getting along with jews but in arab countries such as where im from algeria , they hate jews and its because of what jannah said, whats happening in israel, now why dont they hate the russians for what theyre doing in their country etc , well thats because theyre not arabs and arabs get quickly offended, so when they see the jews killing off arabs (they dont see it as them killing off muslims) they get pretty upset and start cursing the "yahood" (jewish in arabic) wasalam nouha |
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| chachi |
| 05/25/01 at 10:34:27 |
kiwi..what do you mean not killing off muslims?..who's supplying arms and training to the hindu army in kashmir?..who was involved in the torture and killing of 200,000 iranians in the shah's 'guest' chambers?...who tried to destroy pakistan's weapons programme in the late 80's by mounting a commando raid?...who gave aid to the x-tians in indonesia? who has been involved in trying to get x-tian evangelists to murder muslims in sudan? ..and i can show you the letters posted on that x-tian site sent to them by zionist members of the state department...who is currently helping the russians to kill muslims in chechnya?...who tried to start a media propaganda campaign against muslims in the uk?..who laudered money for milosovic to buy arms and fund the chetniks in bosnia?...who was involved in helping the khmer rouge wipe out 190,000 out of the 250,000 muslim population of cambodia?..who provided training to the tamil 'tigers' and helped them slaughter muslims in sri lanka?....who funded certain people who produce anti-muslim documentaries in the us which usually immediately result in bombing attacks against masjids?...who is currently involved in helping the jewish tyrant of uzbekistan in slaughtering muslims in the ferghana?...would you like me to carry on? |
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| se7en |
| 05/25/01 at 15:39:00 |
| as salaamu alaykum, Let's keep in mind here a key concept - as Muslims we do not hate people. We hate the wrong and injustices people commit, and this is irrespective of a people's history, ethnicity, or nationality. Let's look at Islam historically... in any place Islam has ruled there has been a level of religious tolerance unheard of under any other religious authority... under Islamic rule the Jewish community flourished and during the inquisition (if I remember correctly) Jews actually took refuge in the Islamic world because Muslims embraced them, allowed them to live and practice their religion peacefully. In fact, with Jews who payed the jizya tax, Muslims had to take up arms and defend them physically.. is that something we hear about at all? That Muslims literally took up arms to physically defend the well being of Jews? Pretty interesting I'd say, and not exactly conducive to the idea of the "eternal Arab-Jewish hatred" that's so often promulgated... in fact, the 'hatred' that's arisen between Jews and Arabs is fairly new, perhaps beginning with the birth of Israel in 1948.. I think often times zionism and judaism are linked so intimately that you cannot speak of one without people assuming you are saying something about the other... any journalist in the United States who speaks out against the atrocities the Israeli forces are committing against the people of Palestine is labeled an anti-semite... and this is true for anyone who speaks out against Israel.. I think br Ali was spot on with his comment that Zionism has literally *hijacked* the jewish faith... and that even if a Jew steps up and disagrees with zionism or the criminal actions of Israel or the concept of Israel he's considered a sell out and he himself disloyal to Judaism.. I think the majority of Arabs, as well as Muslims, as well as any just people on the planet are anti-zionist. This does not make them anti-semitic however. hmmm - yeah you should probably read everyone's posts *before your own* so you don't repeat things already said huh.. great posts guys :) |
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| chachi |
| 05/25/01 at 16:18:08 |
se7en but i already said that....*lol*... :D been guilty of making that mistake myself sometimes |
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| kiwi25 |
| 05/25/01 at 17:46:26 |
| salaam, chachi, i think i worded my post the wrong way, i noe in my country (algeria) theyre all arabs, so when they hear about the jews killing muslims , they dont say we hate these jews for killing off muslims they say we hate these jews for killing off arabs, to them if u were a muslim and got shot yes thats bad but if u were arab and got shot WHOA now thats (for some reason) worse i dont noe why but thats just the way they are and no u dont have to go on....... wasalam nouha |
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