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| [REVIEW] Qadianism - A Critical Study |
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| Kashif |
| 05/24/01 at 19:44:06 |
| Qadianism - A critical study by Abul-Hasan Ali Nadwi (158 pages) This is a well-written book that discusses the Qadiani movement founded in the late 19th century by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed in Qadian, India. For such a small book, the author highlights many aspects of the movement: - the situation in India at the time of the birth of Qadianism, which in fact, reflected the situation of many parts of the ummah at the time - the early life, behaviour & reputation of Ghulam Ahmed before he made his claim of Prophethood - the founding of the religion and factors influencing its growth - the influence on the movement by Ghulam Ahmed's right-hand man, Hakim Nuruddin Bharawi - the characteristics & lifestyle of Ghulam Ahmed & his closest followers vis-a-vis that of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam and the sahaba - the relationship between Ghulam Ahmed and the British authorities - a discussion of the Prophecies of Ghulam Ahmed - a fantastic summary of the movement's contribution to the Muslim World one century after its appearance. The beauty of this book lies in the style of its delivery. The author instead of relying on passionate rhetoric to enflame the emotions of the reader against the movement simply uses its well-known books to demonstrate its errors. Ali Nadwi takes statements from Ghulam Ahmed's books of Prophecies, from the writings of his son Mirza Bashir Ahmed, and from the publications of the organisation, and weighs these against the teachings of the Qur'an & Sunnah to give a completely unbiased analysis of the movement. I've read few books which have been translated as well as this one has, even though the first print of the book came out close to 50 years ago. This would be a valuable book in any du'aat's collection especially for those who may have a Qadiani community in their city. I give this book [img]http://www.jannah.org/articles/star.gif[/img][img]http://www.jannah.org/articles/star.gif[/img][img]http://www.jannah.org/articles/star.gif[/img][img]http://www.jannah.org/articles/star.gif[/img] PS Over the weekend, i intend to write two more posts based on the material in this book, which i believe would be useful for brothers and sisters to know regarding this movement. |
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| eleanor |
| 06/02/01 at 14:02:26 |
| slm Insha Allah you'll post more info. coz I've got nothing but Qadianis living all around me and inviting me over for tea and to their women's meetings etc etc. The feeling of Ummah from them is overwhelming but I need stuff from you so the Shaytan is unsuccessful in getting at me through these people. They're so weird. They don't say "are you Muslim" they say "are you Ahmaddiyya?" and my husband went once to one of their meetings and at some point the "Imam" asked all non-Ahmaddiyyas to leave so they could discuss some private issues. So he had to go outside and wait. Not only that but they have all the non-Pakistani/Indian Ahmaddiyyas learning Urdu, not Arabic. It's all so twisted and far removed from the true and beautiful Islam. Looking forward to your next post Brother. I have faith and trust in you and all my brothers and sisters here in the Madinat to guide me the right way. wasalaam eleanor |
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| Kashif |
| 06/02/01 at 19:46:23 |
| wa alaikum us-salaam wa rahmatullah I apologise for the delay in writing: there is some stuff that i am just itching to write, but i'm just a lil busy at the moment. Khair, the first thing that i will go over insha'llah is a testament to the falsehood of Ghulam Ahmed by himself by way of a famous prohecy of his failing to materialise. Give me a few days please. Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| jehad |
| 06/03/01 at 14:41:31 |
| Qadianies, i hate them, evil people. you know tea invites is a method of recruting. any how they believe in really weard stuff, as long as you have a basic knoldge of islam, and you are convinced by arguments not niceness, there is nothing to be affraid of. can you ask them this please, i have never done so, and i will like to hear the answer. If gulam mirza ahmad was a prophet why cant he bring a sura like the quran. one that humans can't make? Thats how we know the quran is revealed, why cant he do it if what he brang was revalation? |
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| Kashif |
| 06/03/01 at 19:26:08 |
| assalaamu alaikum My emphases. Unfulfilled Prophecy In 1888, when Mirza Ghulam Ahmed the founder of the Qadiani movement was 50 yrs old, he asked one of his relatives Ahmed Beg for the hand of his daughter Muhammadi Begum. The Mirza made it clear that he had been commisioned by God for that task and God had promised her to him in unequivocal terms, and that this marriage would therefore, certainly take place. In a leaflet distributed on July 10 1888 he wrote: "The Omnipotent & Omiscient God has asked me that i should seek the hand of the elder daughter of this man (Ahmad Beg); should tell him that good conduct and courtesy to be shown to him would depend on this (i.e. his acceptance of the marriage proposal; her marriage with me would be a source of blessing and a sign of mercy for her father; and that he would have his share in all those blessings and mercies which have been laid down in the leaflet dated Feb 20, 1886, [color=black]but if he declines to marry her, then the girl would meet an extremely tragic end. The other person to whom she would be married would die within two and a half years after the day of wedding, and so would die the father of the girl within three years, and her household would be afflicted with discord and poverty and adversity, and during the intervening period the girl would encounter several events of an unpleasant and grievous nature.[/color] [i][Aaina-i-kamilaat-i-Islam, Vol 1. pg.111-118][/i] In [i]Izala-i-Awham pg. 198[/i] he also says: "The Exalted God would, by all possible means, bring her to me, whether as a virgin or a widow, and would remove all impediments, and would of necessity fulfil this task, and none would be able to prevent it." Significance of this Prophecy One may wonder, so what if he wanted to marry a particular woman? Of what importance is that in the scale of history (and in this case the scale of truth)? The answer is that this event is of great importance, for the Mirza made the fulfilment of this Prophecy the criterion to establish the truth of his claim to prophethood. He wrote: "Then, when i repeatedly meditated in order to seek clarification and elaboration of the prophecy, it was made known to me that God has pre-determined that the elder daughter of the addressee (i.e. Ahmed Beg) will ultimately be married to this humble one (after all impediments have been removed) and this event will make the irreligious people (true) Muslims, and provide guidance to the misguided." [i][Aaina-i-kamilaat-i-Islam, p.286][/i] And then: "[color=black]This should be clear to the people that there can be no better criterion of testing our truth or falsehood than our prophecy.[/color]" [ibid. pg. 288] So confident was the Mirza of this prophecy coming to pass he announced it far and wide, in public and in private, to the degree that it had become a hot topic of discussion amongst the Hindus, Sikhs & Muslims of India, reaching even the newspapers. What came to pass The girl's family who had been embarrassed and hurt by the Mirza's public announcements categorically refused his proposal. Thereafter, followed a period in which the Mirza wrote to the girl's father, uncles, aunts and other relatives seeking their aid in bringing about the marriage. In a letter to her father he wrote: "I still make a request to your honour, with humility and respect I have for you, not to refrain from this (marriage) relationship. For this will be ameans of great blessing for your daughter and the Exalted Allah will open the doors of divine grace which you do not even conceive of." [i][Kalmah-i-Fazl-i-Rahmani][/i] Amongst his sons was Sultan Ahmad who opposed the marriage, and as payment for this was disinherited by the Mirza. [i][Tablighi-risala Vol2. p. 9][/i] On April 7 1892, Muhammadi Begum was married to Mirza Sultan Muhammad. The marriage was a happy one and after more than two-and-a-half years had passed (thus, annulling the Mirza's initial Prophecy), he was forced to extend the lease of the Prophecy: "The time for divine punishment is conditionally predestined, which can be put off by fear of god and turning towards God as the whole of the Qur'an testifies. But so far as it relates to this prophecy, that is, the marriage of that women to this humble on, that is assuredly predestined and cannot be waived off, for in Divine revelatio it is clearly stated that "My words will never change." For if they were to change, the words of God would be false." [i][Tablighi-Risalat Vol 3. p. 115][/i] And yet he stubbornly repeated that he would without doubt marry her: "I say again and again that the Prophecy about the son-in-law of Ahmed Beg (i.e. Sultan Muhammad) is assuredly predestined. Wait for it. [color=black]If i am a liar, this prophecy will not be fulfilled and my death will come." [/color][ibid. Vol. 3 p. 117] The end of it is that the Mirza Ghulam Ahmed died in 1908 having never married Muhammadi Begum, whereas, her marriage to Sultan Muhammad continued for a long time afterwards. [Taken from Syed Abul-Hasan Ali Nadwi's book: "Qadianism - a critical study"] |
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| jehad |
| 06/04/01 at 07:50:17 |
| asalm walakum# ?????????????????????????????????????? what does ibid mean, almost every book i have read has it writen on it?in the refrence. what does it mean? "This should be clear to the people that there can be no better criterion of testing our truth or falsehood than our prophecy." [ibid. pg. 288] I used to think ibid was a book, but it can't be cause almost every book has it, in the refrences. |
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| BroHanif |
| 06/04/01 at 08:55:50 |
| A.W.W. I've got a tape on the above. Its excellant and I'd recommend it to everyone. I once thought of posting it to Central Toilet(Qadiyani) HQ. If anyone wants it, I can get it for em, if interested get in touch with me. Salaam Hanif |
| This IBID guy sure is popular |
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| bhaloo |
| 06/04/01 at 11:52:04 |
| slm [quote] I used to think ibid was a book, but it can't be cause almost every book has it, in the refrences. [/quote] Ibid. is the abbreviation for Ibidem, which means in the same place. Used in footnotes and bibliographies to refer to the book, chapter, article, or page cited just before. |
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| Learner |
| 06/04/01 at 12:43:13 |
| slm :) [quote]what does ibid mean, almost every book i have read has it writen on it?in the refrence. what does it mean?[/quote] This reminds me of a mega funny incident. A sister went to ask the university librarian if it was possible to reserve the book Ibid. The librarian unable to control his emotions just burst out into hysterics ;-D ;-D wlm :) p.s. After calming down the librarian apologised and explained his reaction. I think the sister felt really gutted after the incident taking into consideration she was preparing to take her second year law exams! |
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| jehad |
| 06/04/01 at 12:55:54 |
| i had asked about that book in a book shop, but the book shop man had never heard of it. so did she get hold of that book, ibid? |
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| jehad |
| 06/04/01 at 15:21:21 |
| ohhh some one bursting in to histerics when you say some thing, happened to me once,, i think i will write it in the embarrassing moments thing,, cause if i put it here it might change the topic of the thread. |
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