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nehar
06/06/01 at 22:04:46
[slm]

i read that if u removing ur eye brows, u will b cursed, but a friend sed she read that you can removeee them as long as you dont over do them and your husband allows it, but she cant find daleel.

Has any 1 got evidence of this??

[wlm]

Nehar
Re: Eye brows
salaam
06/07/01 at 13:07:07
as-Salaamu 'Alaikum,

This is what I found from www.islam-qa.com, there are two things.



1) Question:

      Some women go to beauticians who style their eyebrows by shaving or
      trimming their edges. What is the ruling on this?


Answer:

      Praise be to Allaah.

      Shaping the eyebrows by trimming, shaving or plucking their edges in order to
      appear beautiful, as is done by some women nowadays, is haraam because it
      involves changing the creation of Allaah and following the Shaytaan in his
      tempting of mankind to change the creation of Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation
      of the meaning):

      “Verily! Allaah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners in worship with
      Him, but He forgives whom He pleases sins other than that, and whoever
      sets up partners in worship with Allaah, has indeed strayed far away.

      They (all those who worship others than Allaah) invoke nothing but female
      deities besides Him, and they invoke nothing but Shaytaan, a persistent
      rebel!

      Allaah cursed him. And he [Shaytaan] said: ‘I will take an appointed
      portion of Your slaves;

      Verily, I will mislead them, and surely, I will arouse in them false desires;
      and certainly, I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and indeed I will
      order them to change the nature created by Allaah.’ And whoever takes
      Shaytaan as a wali (protector or helper) instead of Allaah, has surely
      suffered a manifest loss.”

      [Al-Nisa’ 4:116-119]

      In al-Saheeh, it was reported that Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with
      him) said: “Allaah has cursed the women who do tattoos and those who have this
      done, the women who pluck eyebrows and those who have this done, and the
      women who file their teeth and change the creation of Allaah.” Then he said:
      “Should I not curse those whom the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and
      blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed, when it says in the Qur’aan
      (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… And whatsoever the Messenger gives you,
      take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain (from it)…’ [al-Hashr 59:7]”


2) Question:

      What is the Islamic ruling concerning the removal of hair from between
      the eyebrows?


Answer:

      Praise be to Allaah.

      It is permitted to remove this hair, because it is not part of the
      eyebrows


Hope it helped.

was-Salaamu 'Alaikum.
Re: Eye brows
Anonymous
06/08/01 at 01:36:51
Assalamu alaykum,

How is removing the facial hair or any other hair from any part of the body
different than plucking the eye brows?

if the argument put forth for not doing the eye brows is not to change the
creation of Allah than isn't any hair (facial or not) Allah's creation as well?
Re: Eye brows
Shakira
06/08/01 at 09:09:34

[quote]

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it our jobs as Muslim to "hear and obey", what's the point of always questioning everything


[/quote]

I think that it is normal to question things.  It is part of human nature.  And if you don't ask question then how do you learn?
Re: Eye brows
Mahmoodah
06/08/01 at 17:24:02
salam,
abt removal ob hair between ur eye brows, i heard that was wrong!!!
but thats probably just dodgy info!!!

wa-salam
Re: Eye brows
amal
06/08/01 at 22:16:50
Assalamu alaykum,

Destined, there's a big difference between questioning something for the sake of being argumentative and between seeking understanding.

The following is something that i found in islamicity.org which relates to this:

Question:

As Muslims, we believe that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last messenger Allah sent to mankind and that the Islamic message is the final one from Allah. As such, it is the faith all mankind should follow. The problem is the followers of other religions have similar beliefs, whether they are Christians, Jews, Buddhists or Hindus, they believe that their faith is the best, outlining the ultimate truth. This makes it very difficult to persuade followers of other religions that Islam is the only way to happiness in the life to come. No one chooses where and in which family and community he is born. Please comment.  

Answer:

It is true that no one chooses where he is born. Indeed, practically all children receive their education in schools in the choice of which they have no say. Let me give you this example: Two people are born to Muslim families that are religious. At home they learn Islamic principles and the beliefs in the Oneness of Allah and in the message of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is implanted in their minds at an early age. They then go to the same school; and receive the same type of education. However, they are different in their make up. One of them grows up fulfilling his duties as he is taught. He never questions anything related to Islam. He simply accepts it and attends to what he is taught to be his duties. The other does the same, but he questions everything. Indeed, he looks at the basic Islamic beliefs including the cornerstone of the Islamic faith, namely, the belief in the Oneness of Allah. His questioning leads him to accept those beliefs with an open mind. He considers carefully the benefits of attending to each one of the Islamic duties. He is sure in his mind that attending regularly to prayers makes him a better person. He realizes that the payment of zakah makes the community a compassionate one where the rich take care of the poor. He realizes that by fasting he achieves a high level of discipline that enables him to attend to the greater task of jihad required by every Muslim. Thus he approaches every one of the Islamic obligations, not merely with the attitude of one who wants to fulfill his duties, but also with the feeling that he, as an individual, and his community benefits by the fulfillment of those duties. Are these two persons the same? There is no doubt that the second person is much superior to the first. As such, he will receive a more handsome reward from Allah because he found his belief on personal choice which comes on top of what he has been taught. Indeed, this is what Islam requires of everyone of us. If we are Muslims simply because we have been brought up as such and we do not question things that have been taught to us in childhood, we are considered to have failed in the requirement that our belief in Islam should be based on proper investigation and enlightened choice. If such study and investigation is required of those who are brought up as Muslims, then it is only fair that the same requirement should apply to people who are born in other faiths. Allah wants every human being to choose to believe in Him. He has placed in the universe numerous pointers and indicators testifying to His existence, oneness and overall sovereignty in the universe. These indicators and pointers are sufficient to guide anyone who contemplates and thinks logically to the ultimate conclusion of Allah's existence and man's need to worship Him alone. Allah did not leave matters at that. He sent prophets and messengers to call on people to believe in Him. Those who respond will be guided right and will make sure of learning Allah's pleasure, that results in admission to heaven in the life to come. Because distortion crept into earlier scriptures, Allah has guaranteed to make His final message, the Qur'an, available to mankind in its pure and original form. He has guaranteed to preserve His revelations intact. This is indeed manifest in the preservation of the Qur'an and the Hadith. Moreover, in all previous messages, Allah has included references to the final messenger He would send and the requirement of the followers of earlier religions to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) once he begins to make his call to mankind to believe in the oneness of Allah. Every prophet is required to believe in the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and follow him if he happens to be alive when Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) begins to preach his message. The earlier prophets' followers are also required to believe in the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his message. We still can find such references in the scriptures of several religions. Nevertheless people tend to overlook these and to stick to what they believe to be the truth. If they fail to use their minds and act on Allah's instructions, they only have themselves to blame. You speak of the difficulty in persuading a disbeliever to convert to Islam. Our task is not to convert people. Allah does not require that of us. What He wants us to do is to convey His final message to other people and make it clear to them that Allah wants them to believe in this message and implement it in their lives. If they refuse, then they incur His displeasure and will certainly be punished for that. Once we have made this clear to other people, we have fulfilled our task. Allah will not ask us why they have not responded. After all, it is He who guides people to the right path. He tells his messenger: "You certainly cannot guide (to the right path) anyone you please. It is Allah who guides whomever He wills. He certainly has full knowledge of those who are guided."  
Re: Eye brows
Anonymous
06/09/01 at 02:32:25
as-Salaamu 'Alaikum

I don't get it!?!  In one sense it's haram to trim the edges but in another
sense its okay to remove hair between the eyebrows, is this not the same kinda
thing?

The hair between the eyebrows (the middle bit) is where the little hair pop up,
so is this haram/halal?  Also is this bit taken as part of the eyebrow then?

The word plucking was used, which I assume to mean using your tweezers.  If
your not going to use the tweezers is it okay to bleach it because your not
getting rid of the hair but just making them a lighter colour.

I'm getting too confused here!!!
Re: Eye brows
Mahmoodah
06/09/01 at 06:18:02
[slm]

[quote]as-Salaamu 'Alaikum

I don't get it!?!  In one sense it's haram to trim the edges but in another
sense its okay to remove hair between the eyebrows, is this not the same kinda
thing?

[/quote]

nope, there not the same thing, u hav 2 eye brows, n 1 cenre thing!!!

n abt bleachin and dyin ur eye brows!
this is fr qa isalam:

Question:


I understand that plucking the eybrows is prohibited in Islam. I have the following questions. 1) Can the eybrow hairs be trimmed? 2) Can the eybrow hairs be lightened in color (for example from brown to blond)?
Please provided daleel.
Assalamu Alaikum

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Namas is the word used to describe plucking the eyebrows. According to a saheeh hadeeth, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The woman who plucks facial hair and the woman who has this done are cursed.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari and Muslim).
Namas means plucking the hair, or it was said that it means plucking the facial hair. “The woman who plucks facial hair” is the woman who removes hair from her own face or the face of another woman. “The woman who has this done” refers to a woman who plucks hair from her own face or tells another woman to do this for her. Minmaas refers to tweezers, the tool used to remove a thorn. When a woman removes hair from her face, this can also be done by using a thread. This also includes thinning the eyebrows.
The fuqaha’ agreed that plucking the eyebrow hair is included in the removal of facial hair, which is forbidden because of the hadeeth: “Allaah has cursed the women who pluck their facial hair and the women who have this done.”
The majority of fuqaha’ said that removing facial hair other than the eyebrows is also included in Namas, and the fuqaha’ agreed that the prohibition on Namas in the hadeeth should be understood to mean that it is haraam.
Removing facial hair is also forbidden for men. (Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, part 14, Tanammus).
Al-Haytami said: as for removing some of the eyebrow hairs if they have grown long, I do not see anything wrong with this according to our companions, but it should be makrooh because it is changing the creation of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted. Nothing concerning this was narrated so it should be makrooh. (Al-Fataawa al-Kubra by Ibn Hajar al-Haytami, part 4, Baab al-‘Aqeeqah).
If the eyebrows have grown so long that they are troublesome or causing harm such as preventing one from seeing properly, then the part that is causing the problem may be trimmed.
With regard to dyeing the eyebrows or a part of them with a blonde colour or a colour similar to that of the skin, there is nothing wrong with this, as was stated in a fatwa issued by our Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him and raise his status). He also stated in a fatwa that it is permissible to remove hair growing between the eyebrows because this is not part of them, but he stated that it is not permissible to trim the eyebrows if they are not troublesome or causing harm.

And Allaah knows best

Re: Eye brows
Anonymous
06/09/01 at 23:25:05
Assalamu Alaykum
Any idea about moustache or chin hairs? yes some women do have them.
Re: Eye brows
Mahmoodah
06/10/01 at 06:48:46
[slm], got this fr islam qa!!!

Question:


What is the Islamic ruling concerning the removal of women's facial fair - specifically, the upper lip, if the hair is very visible or obvious? Is it permissible to remove it, or is does it come under the category of plucking? What about hair on the legs and arms?


Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is nothing wrong with a woman removing hair from her upper lip, thighs, legs and arms. This is not included in the category of plucking which is forbidden.


[wlm]
Re: Eye brows
Shakira
06/11/01 at 14:14:18
Maybe I missed something.  Is the problem plucking the eyebrows?  What about waxing, is that a problem?  ???
Re: Eye brows
Mahmoodah
06/11/01 at 15:19:31

[quote]Maybe I missed something.  Is the problem plucking the eyebrows?  What about waxing, is that a problem?  ???[/quote]

salam,
thats still removing/reshaping the eyebrows, SO thats still wrong, n u'll still b cursed!!!

wa-salam
Re: Eye brows
Saleema
06/11/01 at 16:32:33
[slm]

I think that you aren't supposed to make your eyeborows in different shapes, where they look very obvious to someone looking at your face. But don't take my word for it.

My mom knew this one lady who had very bushy eyebrows, in fact, it was just one big eyebrow. She also had a lot of other facial hair. People that would come to see her for their sons would reject her on this. So she finally decided to pluck her eyebrows and have her facial hair removed. She turned out to be very pretty underneath all that hair. :) and then she got married. So if your facial hair is giving you problems then I dont' see why it would be wrong.

People were very rude to her and used to make cracks about her facial hair. Now no one bothers her about it and she feels much more at ease among people.

[wlm]
Saleema
Re: Eye brows
eleanor
06/11/01 at 16:46:11
slm

I don't know what the ruling is on this. I *did* read somewhere that "altering the shape of the eyebrows is forbidden" but for the life of me I can't remember where.

On the telly I saw a Muslimah giving a speech. She was totally covered except for her eyes and eyebrows. Her eyebrows were really thin little lines (obviously had been plucked) and she had eyeshadow and mascara on. Now my question is this. Why did she wear the niqab only to do up the last remaining bit of her on show so she'd attract (unwanted) attention? I mean, on the one hand she was displaying modesty and on the other she was being provocative. Any man looking at her would have been drawn to her eyes, because they *were* beautiful. Then the next woman came on and she had her niqab down over her eybrows and it made such a huge difference.

Maybe I'm wrong here and the woman didn't do anything wrong. Mash Allah she was wearing niqab and if I ever aspire to that I'll be grateful to Allah for giving me the strength.
What do other sisters or brothers think about this?

As an aside, I would consider reshaping eyebrows as being similar to getting a tatoo. You're changing the way Allah made you..not for hygenic reasons but out of vanity.
Then again if you can't get a husband because you have more facial hair than he has...

It's real easy to see both sides of the argument here.

wasalaam
eleanor
Re: Eye brows
gift
06/12/01 at 06:58:15
[slm]

[quote]if you can't get a husband because you have more facial hair than he has... [/quote]

what about sister's with polycistic ovaries?

[wlm]

Re: Eye brows
nehar
06/12/01 at 19:44:46

[quote]
On the telly I saw a Muslimah giving a speech. She was totally covered except for her eyes and eyebrows. Her eyebrows were really thin little lines (obviously had been plucked) and she had eyeshadow and mascara on. Now my question is this. Why did she wear the niqab only to do up the last remaining bit of her on show so she'd attract (unwanted) attention? I mean, on the one hand she was displaying modesty and on the other she was being provocative. Any man looking at her would have been drawn to her eyes, because they *were* beautiful. Then the next woman came on and she had her niqab down over her eybrows and it made such a huge difference.

Maybe I'm wrong here and the woman didn't do anything wrong. Mash Allah she was wearing niqab and if I ever aspire to that I'll be grateful to Allah for giving me the strength.
What do other sisters or brothers think about this?

[/quote]

[slm]

sis i know what you mean.  I usually look at the sister who pluck their eyebrows and think 'wow, shez 70times prettier than me', but to make ma self feel betta i wonder how she'd look with her unplucked eyebrow and then i go one step further and try 2 imagine them without their thick layeer of make up and say 'Nehar jaan, ur 2000times prettier than her'.  I suppose its inner beauty which really counts.

sis i so wanna wear a nikab, but right now dont have the guts.  I really admire those sisters who wear one and pray that inshaalah one day i will b one 2.  Just another thought, wat do nikabi sisters think of the nikabless sisters??

[wlm]

Nehar
Re: Eye brows
Shakira
06/13/01 at 10:25:57
It just seems odd to me, that you can get rid of other hair, but the eyebrows are to be left alone.
There are some women who either due to genetics, hormones or medication have excessive facial hair.  And I support them in having it removed.  As well as the eyebrows.  I know some will I say I am in the wrong.
But why have them go around with a problem, that they may not feel comfortable going out with.  Some may be made fun of.  Others have low self esteem because of this.  
In my opinion, there are worse things.  If they are good and honest people, I don't see where plucking the eyebrows will make them go to hell.
Re: Eye brows
Saleema
06/13/01 at 14:58:52
[slm]

I agree Shakira. I don't pluck my eyebrows. I don't need to but one time under pressure from my mom I did. It hurt so bad.  :( So I never did it again, it's jot worth the pain.

[wlm]
Saleema
Re: Eye brows
Arsalan
06/14/01 at 00:40:34
[slm]
[quote]Then the next woman came on and she had her niqab down over her eybrows and it made such a huge difference.[/quote]Sr. Eleanor, this is a common problem among Muslims nowadays.  The eagerness to put on an Islamic image outside, whereas the inside remains hollow and void from any Imaan.  The hijaab is not just an outer covering, but it's an icon of modesty which is supposed to spring from within.  If a sister knows the true meaning of hijaab, she will not put make up on her face when she is in front of non-mahrams.  Neither will she walk casually among men with her head held up high, or engage in vain talk with them and socialize with ease.

That last statement goes for the bearded brothers also by the way.

With regards to the niqaabi sisters, Allah knows best, but according to the little knowledge that I have, the eyebrows also must be covered!  That is, if you are among those who believe that the face must also be covered in front of non-mahrams, than you must cover everything except the eyes and eyes alone.  (Actually according to Ibn Abbas (r.a.) you are only supposed to keep one eye open.  See Ibn Kathir's tafsir of the ayah of hijaab).  

One last thing.  I am quite surprised to read the fatwa from islam-qa about unibrows.  I was always told that it was not allowed to remove the hair which was between the eyebrows.  I think the fatwa needs to be cross-checked with other fuqahaa as well, just to be safe.  

And Allah knows best.

Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah.
Re: Eye brows
slime
06/26/01 at 22:53:55
Salam,
i have one thing to say, why would u want to alter the image Allah gave u? consider having eyebrows a gift, my cousin is losing her eyebrow hair, and poor kid's only 7 :(
Re: Eye brows
katooshkah
06/28/01 at 20:42:15
Oh gosh! Eyebrows! These kind of discussions are the ones where I know I have to keep working on my faith. I don't pluck mine, but it seems ludicrous to me that a woman who plucks her eyebrows should go to hell for it.

But wait! It's OK to pluck between the eyebrows! Who decides  where "between" ends and "eyebrow" begins?

I know, I know, my deen is lacking here and I apologize if I'm offending anyone. I just can't get past the notion that there are a lot more important things to worry about than eyebrows.

k.
Re: Eye brows
Ayla_A
06/29/01 at 17:21:18
I to agree.....I pluck my eyebrows for my husband, not for the rest of the world to see!!!

Ayla


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