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| Who is this person?? [Hafiz boy] |
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| Anonymous |
| 06/07/01 at 12:10:18 |
| I have been hearing about this boy, from South Africa or so. It is said that he is Hafiz of Quran right from birth moreover that he possesses the compelte knowledge of Islam, and has caught the haunting eyes of cable. Please investigate and inform me about him. Allah Hafiz. Mohammad Ali. |
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| codliveroil |
| 06/07/01 at 13:06:06 |
| asalm walakum.even though i dont have any info about this, and its the first time i have heard it, i will tell you it is not true. this kind of stuff is always lies. how can any one know the quran before they were bourn? we know islam is the truth because of what it is, the truth. we dont need cheep tricks, thats the kind of things chrisions use. cause what they believe is nonsence. islam is enough to prove islam is the truth. |
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| bhaloo |
| 06/07/01 at 13:11:08 |
| slm This "hafiz boy" story I read about some time back. I think they said he was hafiz at 2 years of age or something like that. Anyways, he came to Philadelphia (I think that was the city), with his father and some other people, and when he was asked some questions satisfactory answers weren't given, and one brother said that it was a hoax from what he observed there. |
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| se7en |
| 06/07/01 at 16:01:24 |
| From: Abdul Hakim Vazquez [SMTP:ahak@travelmad.freeserve.co.uk] Subject: Boy, 5, converts 1000 to Islam: the refutation Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah I think it would be wise to examine this report a bit closer. First of all, it is not unusual in various parts of Africa and Asia to see people who are unlettered yet who can speak several languages quite fluently. Thus the report that a child can do so should not be seen as strange. Similarly, the report states that Muammar Qadhaafi supports him. Aside from fighting Islam in his nation, Qadhaafi is also known to be a regular supporter of known heretics like Farrakhan and Rashad Khalifa. Therefore eybrows should automatically be raised when Qadhaffi's name enters the picture. Nevertheless, this past summer a brother who attends our tafseer class in Virginia, went to see this "miracle boy" in Philadelphia. The brother told us he is convinced that the entire thing is an elaborate scam done by either the Christians or the Sufis with the intent to hoodwink the Muslims. The brother said the boy came to a packed Philadelphia auditorium where the majority of attendees were African. Advertisment claimed the boy was "a Hafidh of both the Quran and the Injeel". This claim alone raised some people's suspicions. A few weeks prior to the boy's arrival, a videotape was circulated among the Muslims in Philadelphia which shows the boy and makes several claims. However, the Quran reciter on the videotape is NOT the boy. In fact, the video never shows the boy reciting anything from the Quran. On the day the boy appeared, he was accompanied by four bodyguards, none of whom would allow anyone to question him or do anything except allow people to kiss his hand, touch him or ask him to pray for them. One of the bodyguards was the boy's father, who contrary to the news report, is a Christian. Before the boy's entrance, the bodyguards would pass around a collection basket for people to donate money. People were never informed as to what the money they were donating was for or how it would be used. It was apparently assumed the money was for the boy himself, thus many people donated large sums of money into the basket. When the boy entered, he would then start with khutbatul hajjah, yet he never led nor attended any of the congregational prayers and only came to the local masjid after everyone had finished salat. Later when the boy's father was not present, some attendees asked the boy to recite some suras. At first, the boy acted as if he didn't understand what was being asked. The bodyguards appeared irritated and said it was not proper for anyone to order the boy to recite. People replied that they were not ordering anything, but were simply asking IF he could recite SOMETHING so that people could hear him. A translator then asked him to recite some suras such as Ar-Rahman, Al-Mulk, etc. and the boy replied, "I don't know that". They then asked him to recite suratul Ala, to which he replied again, "I don't know that". They then asked him to recite suratul Ihklas, he said, "I don't know that". It then became obvious to everyone that the boy knew nothing of the Quran, and was simply fooling everyone with an elaborate and well-concieved con. When the father returned and noticed what was going on, he quickly hustled the boy and his bodyguards out of the auditorium. Many attendees felt betrayed, especially when it was discovered that the boy and his "family" left town soon thereafter and their whereabouts were unknown. If this is a scam, obviously the boy is not to blame, but rather the dajjaleen who are parading him before the Muslims as a pseudo-prophetic persona with the express intent of fleecing masses of Muslims from their money. A number of sufi groups have been known to be making inroads in Africa and have used customary shirk practices to gather followers. If Muslims are being duped by these minor dajjaleen, then how much more so hen the real Dajjal appears? And may Allah protect us from his fitnah, ameen. Wa salam Abu Umar ahak@travelmad.freeserve.co.uk ---------- Salaam Alaykum Sister Regarding that little boy - the five year old who is supposed to have converted many people to Islam. He came to my neighbourhood mosque - Islamic Center of New York - several months ago. Our imam put him in front of the congregation and dispelled alot of myths about him. One of such is that he has not memorised Quran....maybe a sura or two. When asked questions, he answered like a normal little boy. It was a lot of hype. Our imam told us not to believe everything we read. The URL for our mosque is http://salam.muslimsonline.com/~iccny I really can't remember all the details. I just remember walking away thinking it was all a fraud. Whatever the case, I just hope he has touched some people and brought them to Islam. I don't dispute the fact that he has touched lives but i think that several things about him were misrepresented. Our imam stood him in front of us sister. He ran past me playing with the other kids. I saw him up close. There are people wanting to touch him as if he is supernatural. That is crazy. He was a simple boy. A human being. Fi Aman Allah K. T. PK |
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| Anonymous |
| 06/08/01 at 01:34:52 |
| salam, I can believe that there might be a toddler who is hafiz. Allah bestows his mercy on whomever he chooses, and we are given them in various degrees. But to have full knowldge of Islam?! I don't think anyone possible could. Allahu a'alam |
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| Kashif |
| 06/08/01 at 04:35:24 |
| assalaamu alaikum I've heard of this happening numerous times. Each time the key sentence has been something similar to.... [quote]Before the boy's entrance, the bodyguards would pass around a collection basket for people to donate money. People were never informed as to what the money they were donating was for or how it would be used. [/quote] Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| chachi |
| 06/08/01 at 18:57:48 |
i'd agree with se7en if this boy's minders start making claims that contradict quran and sunnah see it for what it is |
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