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Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
jannah
06/10/01 at 03:32:23
[slm] yall,

ok so i've been thinking of this idea for a long while and laboogie has finally pushed me over the edge.... (in a good way ;))

do you ever talk to any of the youth in our community?  when i do i get the 'omigosh i love nsync' 'i play (blanksport here) on the weekends so i can't go to the mosque sorry'..

what i mean to say is that our youth are way messed up... and honestly it is scaring me cause they are WAY YYYYYYYY more messed up than we ever were and look at the few of us that survived... i'm afraid that in a few years there will be like NO youth at all above a certain age coming to the mosque. i'm also getting the feeling that the elders in our community are slowly realizing this but they have no idea what to do and in a way they are held back by certain ideas that they have so they keep trying the same old thing and they don't realize that it's NOT WORKING.

so here's the idea.... we start a youth thing... not a youth group because that never seems to work in our community... but a youth thing where one saturday a month we plan and execute an activity for 12-18 year olds... ie hiking, bowling, watch a movie, helping the poor, going somewhere, eid party, something, anything

this way the kids will interact with ppl closer to their age...better role models and they'll generalize their practice of islam to the outside world instead of inside the masjid...

i think it's a start...but i'm not doing it alone and i'm not organizing it ... so any takers???


Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
Laboogie
06/10/01 at 11:07:13
[slm]


soooooo I pushed you over the edge? who else would have done it? :)
And you know that Im in....I think we should start planning after the retreat...do some stuff during the summer...its all about bowling baby...BOWLING, BOWLING (this is what happens when you go to a MYNA conference);). Btw, what happens in the summer up here...do the kids ever come to the masjid (since classes are done)? and does br.Mokhtar still have adult classes??

aight chica
see ya later

Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
sis
06/10/01 at 17:01:34
alsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Allah wa barakatuhu

masha'Allah...thats a great idea..although i'm not an albanyian,  heres what has worked for the ottawan youth alhamdulillah

have halaqas(islamic study circles) all around the city...it could be a group of friends and get an older sis/bro the teach them once a week (whenever the tiem is good)..then after the ball gets rolling organise a big unity halaqa (bring all the halaqa together) every 6 weeks ...or u could start out with a big unity  bash and go from there?

alhamdulillah there was a big sisters unity halaqa (picnic-each person brought some food)) here last weekend and well i got there late but i heard that some pretty awesome stuff took place:
*each halaqa group presented something to everyone else ie.sing nasheed,  one group did a sample karate(i think..well a martial art) lesson(they take karate classes),  and one of the sis's in charge of the halaqas gave a really good talk i heard..etc.etc..
*played sports, ie some volleying, frisby,  football, etc
*about 60 sis's showed up,  including most halaqa girls and friends that don't attend halaqas..alhamdulillah it was a big success


i don't know much about the bro's halaqas but i only hear good stuff masha'Allah

all u really need to start something off is several kids who are into islamic stuff and get them to encourage their friends...it may start out slow but subhan Allah it'll end up being huge insha'Allah

when i was in high school there was none of this type of stuff going on.....think of it...60!!! sis's who are being  taught and encouraged  to be active muslimahs.....i can't wait till those sis's  have their turn at the MSA in the uni's

oh but the thing i gotta emphasize is don't be pushy-yung'uns don like that style too much..be their buds and have fun with them (islamically) and let them feel like they're dealing with someone at their level..gotta show them that the deen is the coolest thing insha'Allah

anyways..for more info get some pointers from the ottawans at the adirondak retreat..alhamdulillah the youth are starting to wake up here:o)

walsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Allah wa barakatuhu
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
Seeker
06/11/01 at 15:40:26
[slm]
Jannah that's an awsome idea! I agree with you that, you know those bunch of 12 and 13 year old girls are going a 'different' way than we did. Also the little boys don't seem to hang out that much. It seems like they don't get enough interaction. And I think bringing them together would do a lot, even if it's just something small on the weekends. It's so hard to keep practicing without good examples around you of how you should be. And I think it's right of you and us to step in here, after all they (supposedly) look up to us. ok, salaam
~Tauhirah
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
Saleema
06/11/01 at 17:23:21
[slm]

Never forget to have some fun! Don't make it all about learning the Qur'an and hadith gatherings, you will drive people away! Have fun activities planned! And during Halaqa's don't have this serious, self-righteous attitude! You will drive people away! And you don't always have to have a specifically Islamic theme to any fun activity that you do. For instance, you decide to go bowling but before that you have and hour or half hour of arabic or hadith class. Always keep in mind that while you may be coming there to learn more hadith and qur'an others may be coming to have fun only in the beginning. Don't drive those people away! Hold on to them and shower them with lots of brotherly/sisterly love and kindness. And don't back bite!!! I can't stress that enough! Don't back bite about those not-so-good Muslims, or the guy that looks at dirty magazines or the girl that dates. These are the people that you want to bring back to Islam. So don't drive them away.

And if some youth turn to you with their problems, don't act like you are so much better than them and don't go around telling everybody about it!

Just my experience with kids here.

[wlm]
Saleema
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
MMohammad
06/11/01 at 17:28:36
We tried a youth group. We had discussions for like an hour and then we played whatever (bowling, bball, fball, etc.) But couple of months went by and all they wanted to do was play bball and it just deterioted. Kids over here JUST wasnt to play bball.. :) (in eastern LI by stonybrook) ..
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
se7en
06/11/01 at 18:52:30
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllah,

:o wow... no wonder you ottowa peeps are so dedicated mashaAllah :)  I think that's WAY over our level here :)

I was just thinking about what br Muhammad al-Shareef said at the syracuse conf..  that a lot of times we underestimate youth, we think that all they want is games and entertainment.. so what happens is that in some youth groups all the guys do is play basketball, and after ten years they have about the same level of knowledge and eman as when they started, but they're all *really good* basketball players :)

so we need some eman increasing activities, and that doesn't necessarily mean a halaqa on ibn katheer's tafseer volume 8...

a hiking trip with a khatira by a waterfall on the purification of the soul.. a split halaqa about gender stuff... a "sleep over" at the masjid... movie night... maybe like a "mujahid story night" where the brothers have to give presentations on mujahida and the sisters have to give presentations on mujahideen..

suggestions anybody? :)

laboogie you pushed me over the edge a long time ago ;)

wasalaam y'all...
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
sis
06/11/01 at 23:04:59
alsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Allah wa barakatuhu

alhamdulillah, all the good we're experiencing is from Allah ta'ala...

se7en..those are great ideas masha'Allah....try horseback riding (its fun and  sunnah:)),  paintball (that is cool),  and like u said..nature stuff with reflecting

i find that mostly,  youth (or anyone) get involved when they see the example put in front of them.... say there is a really cool event being put together...they'll be interested in seeing whats going on and will most likely want to join in the next time insha'Allah, or later even.... they'll want a share in the coolness insha'Allah

see the main reason ur getting the 'i'm crazy bout n sync' talk is cuz that IS what they think is cool ...well u  gotta introduce them to whats really cool...kinda like they gotta see it to believe it

sleep overs at the masjid are really nice..

even just having a sisters get-together at someone's house

bout the brothers only doing basketball......maybe they need to get structure into it...and stick to it insha'Allah

story telling is really good....i find many youth are interested in hearing stories about the sahaba

its really important that once u get ppl involved and they're into it,  give them responsabilities...for the picnic we had last week, one of the halaqa groups organized it all...they learn skills they'll need to work with the ummah insha'Allah

above all...patience...wisdom....being real......everyone is at different levels of iman.....work with that insha'Allah

i hope u can find something useful in what i mentionned...

but for this to really work...purify ur intentions and ask all involved to do the same insha'Allah

hmm and se7en,  my sis,  its spelled O T T A W A :)

and nothing is over anyones level insha'Allah;)...i read a saying, something like 'a journey starts with one footstep'
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
deenb-4dunya
09/05/01 at 19:22:34
I just found this thread..way cool.

Us Ottawans have awesome halaqa structure..as sis already said.

The weekly hlaqas around ottawa are to motivate the youth to practice the deen, and teach them a thing or two. after a year or so..which is where we are at... all the sisters from all the halqas who are self-motivated to learn can come to the workers' halaqa which is sunday morn at 10-12. its gonna start soon, but my bro goes to the one for the brothers. they learn islamic history, fiqh, ihya ulum ad-din, etc. (not all at the same time) they give them homework, tests, quizzes etc.

problem in ottawa is that the sister teachers are much harder to find, so were having a hard time with that. they also have a workshop part where they organize events. i guess u guys aren;t ready for this, but this is our structure. we also have  aunity halaqa every 6 weeks. their are about 8 halaqas for the sisters every week all over ottawa...
so don't feel so special because you have shaikh mokhtar :):):)
Re: Albanyia Peeps -- Need Your Help
kiwi25
09/24/01 at 15:43:46
salam ,

how is everyone, well just this past weekend, i was up in new hampshire visiting a friend, thats why i was away albaynians.... but anyway my freind told me that they have this group called the mas youth of boston.  every last saturday of the month they do something with the youth and a nice group shows up too, the ages range from 10 to 20 and even above.  so far they have done tings such as skiing, hiking, picnic, even arranged a trip with a bunch of their youth to myna here in albany this year,  they have set up their own website with pictures and even their own "madina board" ;), i dont have the website address rigth now on me but when i talk to my friend again, ill ask and let you all know so inshallah we can get an idea.

wasalam
nouha:)


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