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islamic rap
meemo
06/16/01 at 01:14:36
salaamuAlaykum

there are so many islamic rap gorups out there

of course, the infamous MYNAraps, then we got asahabu taqwa, alnasr productions: till death do us part, soldiers of Allah, etc

MYNA raps sounds ok to me, i havent heard anything that made me go :o

but the other groups i have heard are really hard core, and they rightfully hold a lot of anger towards amreeka and the government...

i really liked this stuff for a while, the ranting and raving and hollering about fake scholars and american hypocrits, and ppl trying to compromise islam...

recently i got in an argument with a friend about this. i was told that all this is doing is harboring more hatred in the hearts of youth and encouraging them to complain about their problems rather than start acting..and that there are better and more proactive ways to explain the issues to the muslims

what do you guys think of islamic rap? for or against? i'll post some lyrics for those of you who arent familiar with them 8-) (without the cigarrette)

JAK

wsalaam
~meemo
Re: islamic rap
meemo
06/16/01 at 01:39:28
here's one by annasr productions:
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Presidential Products

Taqwa Jihad
El- Hajj Malik Shabazz-

And when I speak I don’t speak as a democrat or a republican

Nor an Amerikkkan

I speak as a victim of Ameikkka’s so called Democracy

You and I have never seen democracy

All we've seen is hypocrisy



Taqwa Jihad-

It’s too bad for those that buy into the lies
Thinking Islam can’t rise so they compromise
Claiming civilized cause they drive an expensive car
And the call their friends non-Muslims and not Kuffar
They feel pride when complimented on their success
Cause over seas they had less, now they have the best
From Allah they have been blessed, but give credit to these snakes

And do what it takes to please these fakes
Cause before they were here they used to go to sleep hungry at night
Now they are so full they can’t take another bite
And now they throw away more then they used to eat in a day
That’s why they look at me crazy when I diss the USA
Thinking their situation proves that this is the best nation
Can’t believe how they have been compensated for their integration
Instant gratification the capitalist basis of life
That why when it comes to Islam all they see is sacrifice


Can I do Dawah and still clear a G
Get all the newest things for people to envy

Everything has to be a benefit to how they are living
Before they even think about giving
That is why they won’t listen
Unless you have a show on tell lie vision
And sponsors make the decision to pay keep your show on

These corporate buyers get marking liars to make commercials to keep their product image strong

So while the nation watches your show, they see everything they need to try
All these new products, they think they need to buy
Hoping these products can put them a status above
They want be the people on the commercial so they fall in love
With material things and their accumulation becomes a lives purpose
Never see how emotions change and over time these products become worthless
Well, I guess you can’t see past their schemes, while you fulfill your dreams
They are the puppet masters and expensive things are the strings
So as long as you are happy you for a limited time

When you feel unhappy, you can bring it back for only a 19.99
And even when that wears out they got some more
More products you need to get, at the nearest store
See at their core is the need to get rich
So they design a system to keep them on top with no hitch
And leave you thinking that you have input in those elections
Leaving Allah’s straight path for different directions


"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"

Better get right the first time there is no sequel
Some feelings may get hurt, because of my work
But asking for a man to legislate instead of Allah to me is shirk
"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"
Islam and democracy Even if it was by the people, ain't equal
Lobbying politicians like they care meanwhile somewhere someone’s life isn't fair
You shouldn't even compare because of the American Dream the world has a nightmare.



Now that we have talked about how they have you strung
Lets see how the kept you down with the game they run
See this government ain’t what it claim to be
This isn't any true democracy it’s controlled by three?
First it is for the cooperation’s the real pimps in the game
You know those that own the generic and the brand name
They choose a few policy makers and paid for their education
Let them establish think tanks for the policy of this nation
Last are the so-called politicians that they make you choose

Vote for in an election, and read about in the news
They implement policies developed by trained brains
To help their sponsors when in the cooperate games
See you think that these politicians represent you son
Not unless you made a campaign contribution

Mental pollution to think that a republican or democrat
Represents anyone whose pockets ain’t fat
Better check the fact, don’t believe this fable
Become complacent from scraps under the table
While other colonized countries gets none
In America we reaping benefits from unequal global wealth distribution
Were companies pay some one $2.00 a day
To make 10 pairs of shoes FOR $150.00 and us we pay
Turn it around and give us a job for $120 a day
To do nothing -----so we have nothing to say
But then we give it back to the government when we buy the shoes
Pay taxes twice, ain’t it nice how they get paid for the dues
This government SEE it doubles its money
Off an income and sales tax and it ain’t funny
It is all part of the american dream
For a select few and you are a part of the scheme
What I mean, thinking that everything is fine cause you living nice
Turing a blind eye to the third world’s natural resources the USA heist
From nations were citizens are left with zero
But a tyrant for a leader that you think is their hero
But most of you already know that, cause you from that
Why do you ignore that, and don’t think just react
These same companies that make the products you use
Is the same ones who make you like the politicians you choose,
And they pick who loose, just by telling ya the “news”
And don’t tall me you haven't seen the clues what got you thinking you can get your homelands protection in an election
Just wanna see what section buy your affection
A Republican and a Democrat, it all wack
Need to talk to those companies that control that
Just being macked and you relaxed
Just spending and counting your assets
Better fulfill your obligation
Forget voting need To establish an Islamic nation
Recognize Islam is the answer
And stop calling brothers working for the revival a cancer
Cause they don’t fit in your plan
To be an upstanding full fledged American
See these politicians are nothing more then a front to the people so it don’t seem
That the only justice you see is what the paper bring
Ask the dream team, the clought belong to the dead presidents and those holding them
While us Muslims get none and I don’t even wanna talk about are petroleum
They took from each and every one of us in this Ummah
Told us focus on a “religion” and don’t worry dunahh
Fake sheiks Saying material will ruin ya
Telling us better concentrate on the sunnah
That is why I won’t deviate
Follow the method of Muhammad to establish a state
Meanwhile brothers and sisters tricked in elections
Off the straight path of Allah in different directions



"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"

Better get right the first time there is no sequel
Some feelings may get hurt, because of my work
But asking for a man to legislate instead of Allah to me is shirk
"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"

Islam and democracy Even if it was by the people, ain't equal
Lobbying politicians like they care meanwhile somewhere someone’s life isn't fair

You shouldn't even compare because of the American Dream the world has a nightmare.



"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"

"Weather you vote for the lesser of two evils you vote for evil"



El- Hajj Malik Shabazz-

When we open are eyes today and look around Amerikkka

We see Amerikkka not through the eyes of someone who has enjoyed the fruits of Americanism

We see Amerikkka through the eyes of someone who has been a victim of Americanism

We don’t see any Amerikkkan dream

We’ve experienced only the Amerikkkan nightmare
Re: islamic rap
Mahmoodah
06/16/01 at 13:08:20

[quote]salaamuAlaykum


of course, the infamous MYNAraps

JAK

wsalaam
~meemo[/quote]

salam,
bro MYN use alot of string instuments, i was listenin to 1, n i cauld hear the guitar!!!
i thought that ur not supposed to listen to strings!!!
sorry if i've upset u!!!

wa-salam
Re: islamic rap
meraj
06/18/01 at 04:29:06
slm,

if i remember correctly, myna raps uses only percussion instruments and synthesized effects :)
Re: islamic rap
se7en
09/07/01 at 09:03:21
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuh,

ok MYNA raps.. first of all, the people who sing in it are not professional rap artists.  they have families and jobs and responsibilities outside of producing the tape, not to mention all the work they put into actual myna activities and events.

also, if you ask any of the people on the tape about the songs, the only thing they emphasize is the lyrics.  the songs and music are just a vehicle by which to express their message.  think of it as poetry to a beat.  really listen to the songs on the tape, listen to what these guys are saying.  the songs really have beautiful messages and stories within them.  if you dislike the song aspect of the tape so much so you are unable to appreciate the beautiful naseeha that comes in the lyrics, that's fine.  but you're missing out on something really beautiful.

I love myna raps.  I mean *love* it.  It might be because I know the people who sing on the tape, the work they put into it and the sincerity with which they try to convey their message, the effect some of the songs have had on youth.  but I guess I'm sensitive to people saying things about the songs and tapes..

ok, done with that.

now "angry" rap.. i don't think it's unhealthy to listen to angry songs like that, in the same way i don't think it's unhealthy to *write* songs that rage against oppression.. i think songs are an expressive avenue.. just like writing, and sometimes you write bitter mean angry hateful stuff.  but the songs shouldn't be limited to that.  they should follow the example of speakers, and how they speak to the public.  They get people emotional, stirred up, angry about the condition of the world today.. but do they leave people in that state?  No, they motivate people, they tell people to go out there and do something, they tell people *how* to change things..

I think the reason soA doesn't tell people how to do that is because the group they're representing doesn't know how to do that.  soA and some other groups aren't just youth who write songs about their feelings and thoughts.  They're part of a specific group, and they're promoting that group's ideologies.  (they're website's graphics are pretty hot though, check [url=http://soldiersofallah.com]'em[/url] out.)  I think the group they're representing leaves people disenchanted with their condition, angry, but with no practical ways out of that.. basically the same feelings these angry songs engender..

so I think it's not the rap itself that leads to that unhealthy harboring of hate you speak of, but the message of the group the raps are representing.

Re: islamic rap
meraj
06/28/01 at 17:17:46
slm,

i agree with se7en.. even though some of my friends *cough*adami*cough* ;) make fun of me for listening to myna raps, i dont care.. i like them cause of the meaning.. of course theyre not gonna focus on the music... that wouldnt make it much different from any other song.. myna raps come from the heart, and they are meant to affect you in your heart, or at least make you reflect on the meanings on them (sorta liek the Qur'an, but yeah i know theres no comparison there, subhanallah :) )

so yeah... we shouldnt just take it at face value and say its just poorly made/produced music.. its somethign to listen to to not only appeal to the artistic side in us all, but to benefit us in a way that is pleasing to Allah at the same time :)
Re: islamic rap
Nazia
07/12/01 at 00:34:05
slm,


I can't wait to get the 5th MYNA raps tape! Insha'Allah! :)

I gave tapes 2,3,4 to this girl to borrow for this function we were having, and she lost them all!! :(:(:(:(  I was so sad.  So was my sister, because one of them was hers, and she had just gotten it because someone lost her first one too.  Grr...I hate when people are irresponsible with other people's things.

*sigh*

Anyways, in regards to the song in the first post and songs of the like, I truly do not believe that directing anger towards a specific institution (the American government in this case) is a solution to our problems.  And I also don't think that its very healthy to instill this ideology into the minds of our youth, simply because they're always being hit with the negative, and I just think that the music they listen to should be postive.  Especially if they are listening to Islamic music.  
I guess thats what I like about MYNA raps--its personal.  It doesn't attack or defend any institution, it focuses on correcting the inner NAFS <this is my jihad--jihad of the NAFS> then working our way out :)  Atleast, thats how most of the songs are.  You don't walk away from MYNA raps feeling offended, or angry.  Its a peaceful feeling (if you like the music that is :) ). We listen to lectures, watch the news, attend conferences, and these often invoke emotions of anger, and stir people up a little.  And so if we listen to Islamic music for entertainment, relaxing purposes, then thats how we should feel--entertained and relaxed.  Music is one of those things that we can find ourselves very easily caught up in.  Our emotions, our senses, everything feels the music, moves with the music and is genuinely affected by the music.  So one may argue that this is the PERFECT place to voice any and all opinions no matter how harsh and angry they seem to be.  However, I would disagree simply on the basis that Muslims aren't supposed to simply act and feel based on emotion.  We all know how impressionable kids are, and so anger is not the emotion you want being instilled in their minds.


Oh, MYNA raps also makes me want to be around Muslims!  I miss ISNA when I listen to it. :)

Take Care,
Wassalam,
Nazia

Re: islamic rap
meraj
07/12/01 at 21:43:53
slm,

[quote]Oh, MYNA raps also makes me want to be around Muslims!  I miss ISNA when I listen to it. :)[/quote]

haha.. i know exactly what you mean... especially the song 'Alhamdulillah'.. it totally captures the feeling of the monday morning when everyone leaves ISNA. but forget the sad part for now..

[center][color=blue];-D ;-D ;-D 50 MORE DAYS UNTIL ISNA (inshallah) ;-D ;-D ;-D[/color][/center]

what? me.. hyper? i dun think so ;)

Re: islamic rap
Mehak
07/18/01 at 16:16:45
ASAK,
Sorry guys,but this is the first time i 've heard about Islamic rap. So can anyone tell me where i can buy it online???There is no Muslim shop where i live so I will eitehr have to look online or from chicago(any ideas where in chi town????)
JZAK,
Ws'salam.
Re: islamic rap
se7en
07/18/01 at 16:28:04

[url=http://www.mynaraps.com]MYNA Raps[/url]

[url=http://www.soldiersofallah.com/]SOA[/url]

[url=http://myo.ca/]MYO Mix[/url]

Re: islamic rap
Mehak
07/20/01 at 05:00:00
[slm]
Jazak Allahu khaiaran for the links se7en. May Allah be pleased with u :), Ameen.
[wslm]
Re: islamic rap
The-Doctor
10/01/01 at 17:10:40
[slm]

I think some of the rap is interesting masha Allah, i mean if it can reach the youth who can relate to this stuff sure. Thing is I'm sure there are "some" youth out there who feel that rap is totally beyond them. Heh thats how felt growing up around this stuff.

Allahu A3laam but i get the idea rap is a watered down version of poetry?



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