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Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
Anonymous
06/23/01 at 23:27:23
slm,   I have a question. I'm hoping     someone can answer it for me.   If a person started praying   at about age thirteen instead   of at seven does it mean that   he or she has to make up for   'lost' prayers? Please help. wlm

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Mahmoodah
06/16/01 at 15:42:56
salam, that depends!!! far as i know, soon as u mature, its fard to prey ur daily prayers. but if ur a revert, or couldnt pray 4 sum other reasons, then ur 4given!!!  But if u matured and u knew that u had to pray, then u hav to make up for the lost prayers!!! i hope that made sense!!! wa-salam :)

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bhaloo
06/16/01 at 20:22:44
slm From www.islam-qa.com What is the ruling on making up missed prayers in the case of one who was negligent? Among us non-Arabs there are many who may pray one time, then not pray another time, until they reach the age of thirty or thereabouts, then after the age of thirty or forty, they start to pray regularly. Do those who have been negligent about their prayers have to make them up, and does the same apply to Ramadaan fasts? Praise be to Allaah. The person who is in this situation is a kaafir guilty of kufr akbar (i.e., he is beyond the pale of Islam), according to the more correct of the two scholarly opinions, so long as he does not deny that the prayer is obligatory. If he does deny this, then he is a kaafir according to the consensus of all scholars. If he repents and starts to pray the obligatory prayers and to fast in Ramadaan, and he continues to do so, then he is considered to be a Muslim, and the prayers and fasts that he deliberately failed to do in the past do not have to be made up, because the Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam wipes out what came before and repentance wipes out what came before”, and because the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them), when they fought the apostates at the time of [Abu Bakr] al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him), they did not tell those who came back to Islam to make up the fasts or prayers, and they [the Sahaabah] are the most knowledgeable of the sharee’ah of Allaah after the Messengers, peace and blessings of Allaah be upon them. (From Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 6/47)
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jannah
06/23/01 at 23:26:46
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllah, A person becomes responsible for their actions, including salah, at the age of takleef or puberty.  From that time on, you're an adult and you will be held accountable for everything you do or choose not to do. wAllahu 'alam.

Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
Spring
06/25/01 at 09:27:12
[slm] We were taught, by our scholar, that you must make up those prayers which you missed while you were muslim and had reached the age of puberty. In fact it was something that was greatly emphasised to us, and something that we should not delay in. I have about two years to make up, myself. :( Allah hu 'alam

Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
jannah
06/25/01 at 10:00:19
wlm, there are two scholarly opinions on the making up missed salahs you were responsible for. check with a scholar for details.

Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
amatullah
06/25/01 at 13:54:20
Bismillah and salam, I was taught that the prayers we do ta6awu'a (like for example all the sunna prayeres before and after the fard<-obligatory) prayers will be counted only with Allah's mercy insha'Allah for the ones we have missed.

Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
assing
06/26/01 at 11:02:16
Alhamdulillah, this issue of "making up" or "qada" the salawaat one missed intentionally without any valid excuse, is one in which the scholars have truly differed as may have been indicated above. However, based upon the different opinions i have heard, some say you should make it all up regardless of the amount of years, months days, one has missed, whereas others have said one does not have to make it up, but rather one must try ones best to do many nawaafil acts of ibadaah, and this last opinion is the closer of the two to the haqq, and Allah knows best. This view point explained in an excellent manner by shaikh Saalih ibn Al Uthaymeen in his explaination of the famous book of fiqh "Zaad Al Mustaqn'a", whereby on page 89, vol.2, after discussing the times of salah and the invalidity of the salah before it appointed time, he says:    Is it valid if someone makes his salah after the appointed time for that salah has passed, without having a valid excuse? The majority of the people of knowledge considers the salah valid, however that person is sinful. {But} The correct opinion is that the salah is not valid after its time has passed if that person does have a valid reason for missing the salah {such as oversleeping, losing consciousness, etc}. And if the person deliberately neglects the salah until its time elapses, then his/her salah is invalid, even if he/she makes it up a 1000 times. This is because the evidences define the salah timing, and if this person intentionally lets the time of salah pass so that he prays outside of its time, then he has not done what Allah has commanded him to do. And indeed the messenger {salallahu alayhi was salam} said "whoever does a deed which is not from this affair of ours will have it rejected" {Al Bukhari}, hence his salah will be rejected. He further went on to say "this {position} may confuse some who say: if it is that the one who has an excuse {for missing the salah, like sleep,  forgetfulness, etc} can make up his salah after its time, but if he intentionally leaves it off you say don't pray!! Isn't it that the one who deliberately missed his salah has more reason to make up the pray than the one who has an excuse? It should be said to him that: we do not say to the one who deliberately missed his salah that he should not make it up as means of easing him ip, but rather this is a rejection of his deeds, becuase this is not something which Allah commanded and that person is a sinner, thus this person should repent to Allah from what he did and do not make up what was missed. {End of shaikh Al Uthaymeen comments} This is also the opinion of shaikh Al Islam ibn Taymiyyah, as he stated in his book "Al Ikhtayaraat" {pg. 34}  whereby he said "and the one who deliberately abandoned the salah it is not recommended that he make it up nor is valid if he does it, but rather he should try to do as many voluntary acts of worship as possible, and the same goes for fasting, and this also the opinion of a group of the salaf such as Abdur ar rahmaan the student of imam As shafi, Dawud ibn Ali and those from the zahiriyah madhab, and the evidences {from the hadeeth of the messenger salallahu alayhi was salam} do not contradict this opinion, as matter of fact it agrees with it. {End of his quote}
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Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
Anonymous
07/12/01 at 15:57:21
Asalaamu Alaikum I have read the message posted on 'What age do you have to pray'. I wanted to know in my situation I work full time 9am to 6pm and because there is no prayer facilities at my work I miss afternoon prayers (zuhr) and sometimes (Asr). Does anyone know the rule here of making up prayers?, Do you make up prayers the same day i.e in the evening ? Also it would be a great help if someone could advise me the correct procedure of how to make up and perform missed prayer. Thank you

Re: Another Question [What age do you have to pray?]
Ruqayyah
07/12/01 at 17:24:07
[slm] to Anonymous, is there a way you could take a 10 minute break to pray while at work? Even though there are no prayer facilities perse at your work, perhaps you could pray at your desk (if you work at a desk) or in a quiet corner somewhere, or even an empty conference room.  I know most employers don't have a problem with that. [wlm] Ruqayyah
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