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Road Rules In Morroco
Iranna326
07/11/01 at 20:08:32
I hope I spelled Morroco, right, Jannah please don't correct me :)...
Anyhoot, I watched a little bit of the road rules first episode and...i noticed that one of the girls was getting rocks thrown at her...was it because she was wearing really short shorts or because the kids were being punks...
If anyone has seen it please reply, I'm interested in hearing opinions...
Re: Road Rules In Morroco
Saleema
07/12/01 at 02:06:17
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I didn't see it.

But one time these really mean kids were throwing rock at me when I went on the street in Pakistan, so I got all of my 20 something plus cousions and we went and threw rocks back at them. Then we got into trouble at home. But at least i got my revenge.  :)

[wlm]
Saleema
Re: Road Rules In Morroco
Madinat
07/14/01 at 12:22:14
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yes, i did watch rr10 in morocco, and absolutely think those little boys were throwing rocks at her for wearing short shorts.  neither of the other girls were wearing shorts or even tank tops and i think she was very disrespectful to their society.  

afterward, when they were on the RV, the guys started telling her "look at all these women, when they get married, they have to cover their whole bodies (heaven forbid!).  this is a male dominated society where the women are totally subservient to the men...."  

i have NEVER heard anyone so ignorant of culture or religion before in my life.  he was SO sure he was right!  i've since gone to the MTV message boards and bombarded them with posts about how ignorant they were for sending those kids out there without any knowledge on how their behavior would reflect on them.  THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!!

i was soo mad after hearing him say that.  i wonder, there must be millions who feel the same way as he does, and as much as it might hurt someone's pride to ask, i would rather have them do that than ignorantly proclaim "i know all about this because i saw it on tv"

i have issues with what these people have "seen on tv"  

grrrr....i'm frustrated with the media, but what are you going to do?

Re: Road Rules In Morroco
Salaam2u
07/18/01 at 19:33:15
I usually hate that show but since you brought to my attention that they were in Morroco, it piqued my interest. SubhanAllah, that was a big mistake on behalf of MTV for sending them to Morrocco. They were really rude and I'm surprised he was allowed to say that...but then again, it is MTV. I think that was a very smart move Madinat, and I'm thinking about writing to them myself, we can atleast try to show our disapproval, ya know what I mean?

The media creates such ignorant people these days, its really kind of depressing...This woman I work with didn't even know that India was a 3rd world country, in fact she thought it was a very exotic and luxurious country because of what she saw on t.v. lol...

I apologize if I have offended anyone..

Wasalaamu Alaikum,
Your sister in Islam
Re: Road Rules In Morroco
M.F.
07/19/01 at 12:15:16
Assalamu alaikum,
I didn't see the show you're referring to, but I do live in Morocco, and I know that getting rocks thrown at you is a very very uncommon thing.  The last time I heard about it was during the Gulf war when anti-western sentiment was very high.  Some people got rocks thrown at them.  Not very hard, not enough to hurt them, just enough to let them know they were unwanted.  Which is probably the case for the woman in shorts.  I'm guessing they must have been either in some remote small town or countryside, or in a very old part of some city. She must have been really offensive to them.
Re: Road Rules In Morroco
Anonymous
07/25/01 at 04:50:35
As Salaamu Alaikum, Wa Rahmatullah,

I haven't really watched any MTV show in 5 or 6 years, and I've never
been one to follow Road Rules (I was more of a Real World fan). I did
stumble across the first episode last Saturday and was intrigued because
it was easy to guess that they were taping the show in Morocco.

I know that it sounds bad, but I understand the young boys reasons for
throwing rocks at the young lady, Helen or Ellen I think. At the same
time, I wonder if this same behavior isn't what leads alot of men to
abuse woman and treat them as inferior beings. I know my place as a
Muslimah, but let's be honest, it does happen more than we like to admit or
think about.

Back to my point. This young woman knew before hand that the custom in
Morocco was to dress modestly, but she decided that since she was an
American, she had the right to dress any way that she pleased; which is
true, but she had to know that she would receive some type of negative
response in doing this. Even before leaving the vehicle and being hit
with rocks, she mentioned that she didn't appreciate how men on the
streets stared at her! One of her companions explained to her that Moroccan
men aren't used to seeing women hardly dressed. True! He wasn't
completely right in his explanation, but atleast he knew that she should have
respected the culture.

All she could say afterwards was that she thought that showing her legs
wasn't an issue, but that wearing a tank top that she originally had on
but covered with a longsleeve shirt would have been. Come on! I think
that a lot of people can get over a woman wearing a tank top, especially
if she isn't "top heavy" before dismissing her wearing shorts so short
that they only come 3 or 4 inches, if, pass the buttocks. And her
telling everyone that she was afraid and felt violated because she had been
raped before didn't sit well with me. Alot of women cry rape. Only
Allah truly knows if she was or was not; but having been raped twice in my
life, first as a young teenager before embracing Al-Islam and the
second time because an acquaintance (co-worker) resented my being Muslim and
not willing to date him, I cover my body for fear of attracting any
negative attention. But...all women handle rape differently.

I hope that I haven't offended or angered anyone.

Ma Salaam, Rabia!
Re: Road Rules In Morroco
Anonymous
07/26/01 at 22:48:54
Hello everyone, I admit, I'm a lurker.  I am not Muslim but
have great respect for your support of each other and love of God.

I just want to say that I was in Morocco a few years ago, in the
summer, and I really had no problems.  I was there to visit a friend in Fez
and rode public transportation by myself and walked through many cities
and rural areas alone with no incident.  I found everyone in Morocco to
be generous and welcoming.  

However, I do know some minimal Arabic and did dress more modestly then
i do in the states.  I don't feel like that is too much to ask though.  
I did not cover from head to toe I just tried to be respectful of the
community I was in.  If I was visiting Russia I'd try to learn a few
words or Russian to make my trip easier, why are people unwilling to do
the same thing when visiting Muslim countries?

The only incident I had was in Tangier.  A man on the street wanted to
be my guide and followed me and when I told him no thank you for the
4th time he spit on me and told me that Jews were not welcome in his
country, now, there was no reason to believe me jewish, and I'm not, but
this was a real act of agression.  He continued to follow me and scream
at me and finally grabbed at me.  I ran into the nearest shop and asked
the man if he spoke English - which he didn't - so I tried to
communicate to him my fear in jumbled French.  He finally just said, "OK, OK"
and took me back into where his family lived, sat me down with some women
and said "stay".  He disapeared and the women gave me tea and we just
stared at eachother with no language in common until he came back and
said "OK" and walked me home.

All I mean to show is no matter how wrong the boy may have been, that
mans kindness and hospitality is what I found to be common of the
Moroccan people.

Thanks, I hope I haven't intruded.


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