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| Anonymous |
| 07/31/01 at 04:09:31 |
| salaam, I was wondering what you sisters do when you have your monthly cycle. Considering we can't pray what other forms of ibaadah (worship) do you sisters do? wa salaam |
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| humble_muslim |
| 07/31/01 at 09:51:36 |
| AA It's permissable to read Quran. |
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| jannah |
| 07/31/01 at 09:53:31 |
| wlm, true basically the only thing you *can't* do is pray... so it's a chance for u to do some other ibadah like dhikr, listening to quran, tapes, doing good deeds... |
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| Seeker |
| 08/01/01 at 23:16:07 |
| [slm] Wait, we can read Qur'an?? I've understood we can't even touch the Qur'an when we're on our menses. I've learned that you can only recite. Please tell me if i've been wasting valuable qur'an reading time.. salaams |
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| zanfaz |
| 08/01/01 at 23:30:00 |
| [slm] I found this in islamicity. [hr] Question#: 748.0 Question: Asslam Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu!! I have a question regarding menstruction. During a ladies' peiod is reciting of the Quran from memory not allowed. Why is touching the Quran not allowed?? Jazakhallah. Answer: As-Salaamu Alaykum. Regarding your question, it is true that a menstruating lady is not allowed to touch or recite the Qur'an even by memory. However, Muslim scholars have made an exception for any menstruating woman to recite the Qur'an by heart without touching it during the menstruation period if she fears forgetting the verses and/or if she is learning it in a classroom. Women are not allowed to touch the Qur'an the same as not praying because the recitation of the word of God requires both men and women to be in a state of purity. Menstruation takes the purity state (Tahara) of a woman. Thank you for asking. |
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| Anonymous |
| 08/02/01 at 02:22:37 |
| asalaamu alaikum, here is a question from Islam-qa.com Question: Dear Sir, Assalamu Alaikum Is it permissible to read Quran while a women is having mensus (periods)? answer at: http://65.193.50.117/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=2564&dgn=2 |
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| Mahmoodah |
| 08/02/01 at 17:17:49 |
| salam read islamic books, like 1z abt the prophets, day of judgement ...... thats wat i do!!!!! abt reciting the Quran while ur on ur periods, i heard that it was haram to do this!!!!! wa-salam |
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| Ruqayyah |
| 08/02/01 at 19:03:46 |
| [slm] If it is not permitted to touch the Quran in order to read it while on your period, what about reading the Quran online? Has there been any rulings on that? [wlm] Ruqayyah |
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| Anonymous |
| 08/09/01 at 01:44:54 |
| this is my understanding - a translation of the Quran which does not contain the Arabic is not considered to be THE Quran - it is an incomplete interpretation. see for example footnote 54 in this article http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/zara.html there is another article on this of the position that you may read the Quran during menstruation. i really think you should consult someone more knowledgeable and study this in more detail http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/naturalblood.htm [54] To them, the mushaf is the Quran itself. If a book contains the Quran but mostly other material, such as a large commentary of the Quran or a translation with commentary, they do not consider that a mushaf and one may touch it without needing to be in a state of ritual purity. |
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| Saleema |
| 08/09/01 at 08:56:52 |
| As-Salaamu Alaykum. Regarding your question, it is true that a menstruating lady is not allowed to touch or recite the Qur'an even by memory. I don't get that. Not even by memory? Can someone explain please? If such is the case then one shouldn't even think of the word "Alllah" or say "Bismillah.." during this, which is impossible to do and it would be wrong were it possible. [wlm] Saleema |
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| amal |
| 08/09/01 at 15:08:13 |
| [slm] The following is taking from Fiqh Al-Sunnah: [color=green]1-Regarding touching the Qur'an[/color] [quote] [color=red]Volume 1, Page 52d: Touching or carrying the Qur'an[/color] The companions were all agreed that it is forbidden to touch or carry the Qur'an while one is in a state of impurity. There are some jurists, such as Dawud ibn Hazm, who allow the physically unclean person, whether because of sex or menstruation, to touch or carry the Qur'an, and they see nothing wrong with this. He derives his support from a hadith in the two Sahihs in which it is stated that the Prophet sent a letter to Heraclius saying, "In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful...O people of the book, come to a statement that is common between us and you, that we should worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords besides Allah. If they turn away, then say 'Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him)." (al'Imran 64). Ibn Hazm concludes, "This is the letter the Messenger of Allah wrote, containing this verse, to the Christians, and of course they touched it." The majority of scholars answer him by stating that one is allowed to touch parts of the Qur'an that are used in letters, books, tafsir, and so on, as such things are not copies of the Qur'an, nor is it confirmed that such an action is forbidden. [/quote] [color=green]2-Regarding reciting the Qur'an[/color] [quote] [color=red]Volume 1, Page 53: Reciting the Qur'an [/color] According to most scholars, one who is physically unclean (because of sex or menstruation) may not recite any portion of the Qur'an. This is based on a hadith from 'Ali, in which he stated that nothing kept the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, from the Qur'an save being sexually impure. This is related by "the four." At-Tirmizhi graded it sahih. Says al-Hafez in al-Fath, "Some people declare some of its narrators weak. But, in fact, it is of the hassan class and it is satisfactory as a proof." He also related, "I saw the Messenger of Allah perform ablution and recite some of the Qur'an, after which he said, 'This is for the one who is not in post-sex impurity. If one is in post-sex impurity, he may not do so, not even one verse." Ahmad and Abu Ya'la related this hadith with that wording. With that wording, al-Haithami says, "Its narrators are trustworthy." Says ash-Shaukani, "If that (report) is authentic, that is proof enough that it is forbidden." The first hadith does not forbid it, for it just states that it was his practice not to recite the Qur'an while he was in post-sex impurity. Similar reports do not show that it is disliked. Therefore, how can it be used as a proof that it is forbidden?" Al-Bukhari, at-Tabarani, Dawud, and Ibn Hazm are of the opinion that it is permissible for one who is in post-sex impurity (or in menstruation) to recite the Qur'an. Says al-Bukhari, "Ibrahim said, 'There is no problem if a menstruating woman recites a verse.' Ibn 'Abbas did not see anything wrong with a sexually impure person reciting the Qur'an. The Prophet, upon whom be peace, used to mention Allah under all circumstances." In Ibn Hajr's notes to that work, he says, "There is no authentic hadith reported by the author (al-Bukhari) concerning the prohibition of reciting by one who is sexually impure or menstruating." The sum total of what has been related on this issue informs us on this point, though the interpretations differ. [/quote] [wlm] |
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| amatullah |
| 08/09/01 at 15:25:53 |
| Bismillah and salam, The woman da3eya may Allah bless her I learnt from her back home she said it was ok to hold the translated copy of the quran when teaching me. Was that an exception? or i wonder if it is always ok to touch the translated one if you are studying? Or is it better to put the studying on hold. |
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