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Hijabi 24-7?
halwa
08/01/01 at 02:48:31
Assalamu Alaikum

I have a question..There are many muslimat that have to wear their hijab 24-7.
personally, i kno of two common situations. 1 is when the wife has to live with the husband's family, along with his brothers. SHe cant take it off infront of them, so she must keep it on all the TIme.
2 is when, we all grow up with our cousins, under the same roof our entire lives, and then we all of sudden have to cover ourselves in front of them and we are still living under the same roof as them.

Now imagine doing the housework with a scarf on the head and long sleaves on a HOT day. Imagine raising kids, cleaning after them, etc with the same situation. its VERY difficult, and ive seen it and experienced it first hand. I literarly spent an entire summer with a scarf on my head and or tied around my waist.

I was wondering if anyone has  heard a sheikh address this issue, and wut he/she said. Also,at the time of the prophet, the berber tribes used to set up tents in like a rectangle, and having them all open to each other at the center. Did the women cover all the time in those situations??

i dunno this is a pretty important questions, cause i have to deal with it everytime i go back home and visit and i have family that have to cover all the time..and some that tried and then found it to be too difficult, allah(swt)'s command was not to live with the scarf on the head.

i would really appreciate it if someone would ask sheikh mokhtar and tell me wut he says about this.

Jazakum aLlahu Khairan..
wasalamu ALaikum
ur sista in this beautiful deen
seebz
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Haseeba
08/01/01 at 08:50:14
sorry VERY off topic but how did u get the nick name (or is it ur name??) seebz? cause thats what people short form my name 2.......
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
jannah
08/01/01 at 09:35:50
slm,

hey seebz... her nick is cause of her name too haseeba:)

i don't remember who was asked this question but i can remember reading/hearing something about it..and the opinion given was that the husband shouldn't put the wife in such a position because it makes it extremely difficult for her to wear hijab 24/7 and that's why it was better to try to find their own private living quarters in that case. but Allahu alam... i can't remember the exact situation or who was asked... maybe someone can do some research on it!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
NewJehad
08/01/01 at 09:42:07
slm
I never knew hijabs were uncomfortable?
They look comfortable?
How are they uncomfortable?
What’s so uncomfortable about a cloth on the head?
I am not trying to offend any one here, I just cant see it. Maybe you bought an uncomfortable one? And there are better more comfortable ones? Allah hu Allim.
Any way from sharah the women has a right to her privet quarters.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
jannah
08/01/01 at 09:56:01
wlm,

jehad here's an experiment for you...and i seriously suggest this to any brother... try wearing hijab for 24 hours..like one of those saudi one's and keep it pinned on and make sure it's a really sunny hot day out and see how 'comfortable' u feel after that :)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kashif
08/01/01 at 10:37:38
Good suggestion jannah.

So jehad, you gonna wear it today and then let us know your opinion tomorrow?

On a serious note - it definitely is a hardship for sisters. One of my friends lives with his parents: he has brothers, but alhumdulillah, the house is spacious (its two houses converted into one). However, he tells me that his wife has to wear the full hijaab all the time, and when she wants to do other things like show him new dresses, etc. she can only do so in the privacy of their own room... which is a bummer.

I vaguely remember hearing something along the lines that its the wife's right to have a place of residence of her own. Does anyone have any notes on the discussion of this topic across the different madhahib?

But this is really something that could be sorted out before marriage - if you really dislike the fact that you'd have to wear hijaab 24/7 and you know that a prospective brother can't give any more than that - then i guess you don't marry him.

Also, the harm that can be caused by the brother-in-law of the wife shouldn't be underestimated. The Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said that "he is death."

cf. www.islam-qa.com

Kashif
Wa Salaam

PS I won't be as harsh as sister Kathy (hehe) cos i'm a brother and i'm with you man. BUT i still think that you should try this experiment, BUT forget looking after kids n stuff.... just these three things:
1> wear the full hijab from 9am - 10pm for one day only
2> clean the house
3> cook one decent meal (rotis included).

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kathy
08/01/01 at 10:25:27

[quote]How are they uncomfortable?
What’s so uncomfortable about a cloth on the head?
[/quote]

slm

Addding to Jannah's note- it isn't only the scarf. It is the whole outfit. From head to toe- except the face!

Jehad- when you are doing this experiment- which I really think you should try- to clean the whole house, mopping, dusting, vacuming, scrubb the bathroom- give the kids a bath and then finish the day by spending a couple of hours over a hot stove cooking- followed by washing the dishes after in full hijab.- don't forget the wash and ironing.

All while fully covered with a scarf.- Remember- most of us do not have airconditioning...

then let us know how easy it was...
NS
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kashif
08/01/01 at 10:39:12
Remember that this is a fatwa not a qadaa'.

Question #7653

I live with my inlaws for last 7 years, I dont get along with my father inlaw, I have asked my husband to move out from them. He is very hurt on this matter, He says he cannot live without his parents, and its hard for me to live with his parents and his younger brother, am i asking too much. What does islam role says on this. Please answer me ASAP. I am desperate to move out, But I like my husband to be happy with me also.

Answer

Praise be to Allaah.  

Firstly:

The Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against the husband’s relatives who are not mahrams to the wife entering upon her. It was reported from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir that the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Beware of entering upon women.” A man from among the Ansaar said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what about the brother-in-law?” he said: “The brother-in-law is death.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4934; Muslim, 2172).  

It is not permissible for her to be alone with any of her in-laws except those who are so young that there is no fear that they will tempt her or be tempted by her.

Secondly:

The husband must provide his wife with a dwelling place that will conceal her from the eyes of people and protect her from heat and cold, where she can live and settle and be independent. Whatever meets her needs is sufficient, such as a room in good condition with a kitchen and bathroom – unless the wife has stipulated larger accommodation in her marriage contract. He does not have the right to make her eat with any of her in-laws. The kind of accommodation provided must be commensurate with what the husband is able to provide and be suitable according to local custom (‘urf) and the social level of the wife.

(a)   Ibn Hazam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

He has to provide her with accommodation according to his means, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Lodge them (the divorced women) where you dwell, according to your means” [al-Talaaq 65:6]

(al-Muhallaa, 9/253).

(b)  Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

She (the wife) is entitled to accommodation because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Lodge them …” [al-Talaaq 65:6]

If it is obligatory to provide lodgings for a divorced wife, then it is even more appropriate that lodgings should be provided for one who is still married. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… and live with them honourably…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:19]. Part of that means providing them with accommodation, because she cannot do without proper accommodation to conceal her from people’s eyes and so that she may go about her business, relax and her keep her belongings in order.

(al-Mughni, 9/237)

(c)  Al-Kaasaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If a husband wants to make her live with a co-wife or her in-laws, such as his mother or sister or daughter from another marriage or another  relative, and she refuses to accept that, then he has to provide her with accommodation of her own… But if he lodges her in a room of the house that has a door of its own, this is sufficient for her and she should not ask him for alternative accommodation, because the harm caused by fear for her belongings and not being able to relax is no longer there. (Badaa’i’ al-Sanaa’i’, 4/23)

(d)  Ibn Qudaamah also said:

A man does not have the right to make two wives live in the same dwelling without their consent, regardless of whether the house is large or small, because this will cause them harm due to the enmity and jealousy between them. Making them live together will cause conflict and each of them will be able to hear when the husband spends time with (has marital relations with) the other or she will see that. If they both agree (to live together in one house), this is permissible because they have the right to do to ask for independent accommodation, or they may choose to forgo this right. (al-Mughni, 8/137)

He did not mean that it is OK for the husband to have marital relations with one where the other can see and hear that; what he meant was that it is permissible for them to live in one house, where (the husband) can come to each of them on her night in a place in the house where the other cannot see her.

If he can give each wife a part of the house with a bedroom, bathroom and kitchen, this will be sufficient. Similarly, he could give each wife a separate house or apartment.

Al-Haskafi (may Allaah have mercy on him) – one of the Hanafis – said: Similarly, she is entitled to a place in the house that is free of his family and her family according to their means, as is the case with food and clothing. A separated part of the house with a door of its own and facilities such as a bathroom and kitchen will be sufficient for the intended purpose.

Ibn ‘Aabideen commented:

What is meant by “a bathroom and kitchen” is bathroom facilities and a place for cooking that should be within the room or in a place which is not shared by any other family members.

(al-Durr al-Mukhtaar, 3/599-600)

I say: what indicates that what is meant by “house” [bayt – literally, “house”, translated above as “room”] is a room is the comment of al-Kaasaani (may Allaah have mercy on him): If the house has rooms, a room should be allocated to her and given its own door. They said: she does not have the right to ask him for alternative accommodation.

(Badaa’i’ al-Sanaa’i’, 4/34)

On this basis, it is permissible for him to accommodate you in a room of the house that has its own facilities, so long as there is no fitnah (temptation) or being alone with any non-mahrams who have reached the age of puberty. He does not have the right to force you to work for them in the house or to eat and drink with them. If he is able to provide you with accommodation that is completely separate from his family, that will be better for you, but if his parents are elderly and need him, and they have no one else to serve them and the only way he can serve them is by living with them, then he has to do that.

Finally, we urge you to be patient and to strive to please your husband and to help him to honour and be kind to his family as much as possible until Allaah grants you a way out. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.
NS
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Ruqayyah
08/01/01 at 10:48:47
[slm]

Just along the lines of trying to cook and clean while wearing hijab, it can be a very messy experience. The tips of my hijab that hang down over my shoulder always get "dipped" in bowls of food while i'm reaching for something.  I actually ended up buring a hole through one of mine because the tip of it touched the electric stove!  actually, just try EATING in a hijab, (especially those polyester ones that do not move w/ your mouth)  i always manage to find crumbs in mine after meals :)  There's so many things that you don't even think of until you wear it.  I never realized how hot and itchy it can get in there too after a full day's work- sometimes your head just needs to breathe :)

[wlm]
Ruqayyah
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Nazia
08/01/01 at 10:57:18
slm,

Oooh! Boys in hijab..I have a story!
I went to a Muslim youth camp some years back (in my youth ;) ) and it took place in the muggy month of August.  The cabins and meeting room had no air conditioning and it was just plain HOT.  The girls of course were covered head to toe, while the bros would run around in tshirts (and shorts during recreation time).  Anyways, some of the younger girls suggested that the brothers where "hijab" for a day.  The administrator (it was our own zubaid k.) grudgingly agreed.  The only downer was that all the brothers had to borrow our hijabs (ugh!).  So anyhow they tied them up on their heads and looked like Saudi militia men or something, and wore long sleeves for the whole day.  By the end of the day they had SUCH nice things to say about the sisters and how much they respected us etc... I think it was quite the learning experience for them.  But then they took them off their heads and had them passed back to us!! :(:( You saw a huge line of girls holding a hijab by the tip as far away from themselves as possible all the way back to the cabin where they were immediately steralized :)

Anyways, you guys should try it.  Those guys looked cool!
Take Care,
Wassalam,
Nazia
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
NewJehad
08/01/01 at 11:03:45
Sis kathy, Looking at what you wrote from the point of view of a male( some one who never does house work), it looks like the difficulty lies in cleaning, cooking childcare etc, and has nothing to do with hijab?
I dont think the stuff you mentioned will be really easy with out hijab, cause i tried ironing a peace of clothing once. i gave up, too difficult. and that was without hijab.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
LizZzaLo
08/01/01 at 12:00:13
hahah ok..that really made me laugh...new jehad...good one :)

u should have someone teach u how to iron ;)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Haseeba
08/01/01 at 12:01:15
slm,

hey seebz... her nick is cause of her name too haseeba
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....is her name haseeba 2??? i never met another haseeba b4
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Mahmoodah
08/01/01 at 12:43:17
salam,
i hav to add that its not JUST the hijab that makes house work hard, its the baggy cloths!!!
At HOME my cloths r slightly fitted 4 easy moving, but we hav guests down regularly, this means baggy cloths and hijab!!! this can get REALLY hard wen working!!!!

thats y i tell my bro off wen he leaves the serving jobs to us!!!

neways working is hard, even i do less work then both my sisters:)  But they let mr off:)

wa-salam
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
bhaloo
08/01/01 at 13:42:45
slm

So Jehad you'll wear the hijab tomorrow and go out in public, and let us know  how it went?  ???
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
se7en
08/01/01 at 13:45:35

Jehad you tried ironing one piece of clothing once?  And it was too difficult for you??!  That must have taken you what, a good two minutes :P  Man, I hope you didn't overexert yourself :P  
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Mahmoodah
08/01/01 at 14:19:30
salam,
just 1 Q bro jehad, do u do ne house work?????????????????????
coz u should, as its not fair on ur mom n sisters and al the rest!!!!!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
halwa
08/01/01 at 14:58:52
Assalaamu ALaikum

well, mashallah im happy with the responses i got. To answer some of ur questions and to respond to some of the comments.

haseeba- my name is nassiba..so thats where i got my nickname seebz..
its not far from ur name..so i can understand why we would have the same nickname. :)

nazia- im familiar with that story, wasnt it at FYLTP?..i think we should have a day where all the brothers are made to feel what we deal with every day, ofcourse for the sake of aLLah (Swt)

well since some brothers do not seem to understand how difficult it is to be a hijabi 24/7, all i can say is that no one will understand it til they EXperience it. Wearing a cloth on ur head as some of u refered to it, is not the complete hijab. WE must not forget that being a hijabi 24/7 includes not only the cloth on the head but the cloth on the whole entire body.

ALso, it includes the attitude around ur non mahmram family. How can u be at full comfort if ur living with non mahrams. You have to maintan a certain level of Haya infront of ur non mahrams, and at times its hard to maintain that haya if ur living with that person.

All of these affect the relationship between the sister and her non mahram family member. Im sure all of the sisters have faced a situation with a cousin or a close family friend. Once u start covering infront of them, after growing up together, the relationship changes and at first causes awkwardness but then that awkwardness changes into a form of respect.

I also think that it is a must for hte husband to find a seperate living arrangement for his wife.  Even if they are under the same roof as his family, some how seperate the house into a section where his brothers cannot enter, etc. So that if the wife cannot have TOTal privacy, she can atleast have some.

Also, if a husband must provide for his wife and family. PArt of the things that he must provide for them is a private place to live. If he can provide for them food, and clothing, he Must make it also a goal to provide a private home. This should probably be discussed before marriage.

I think that this situation is not as hard to deal with here in WEst, but when we all go back home, It is rare that the couple gets married and directly move into their own home. ITs not in the culture. sO ALahmdulilah that we have the opportunity to be able to have our own private homes. WE should keep all of those sisters that are not able to live under such circumstances in our duas. Because this is a great mujahada they are doing for the sake of pleasing Allah (swt).

I think thats the end of my shpeaal for today..heh..
and yes, br. jihad..im waiting for the results of ur day of being a hijabi 24/7.   because Only after this, will u be able to discuss whether wearing "just a cloth" all the time is difficult or not.

Wasalaamu ALaikum wa Rahamatu ALlahi wa Baraktuh

seebz

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Mahmoodah
08/01/01 at 15:53:04
salam,
i dont think islamically bro jehad is allowed to wear a hijab neways!!!!!!!
coz that'd b dressing like a women, and this is rong!!!!!!
but if i am rong, then thats gr8, i wanna hear the results to:)

neways, abt wearing a hijab 24/7, wen my mom went back where she origionally came fr,  we had to wear hijabs at nite, or leave 1 next to us, that was REALLY hard!!!!!

wa-salam
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
jannah
08/01/01 at 16:16:39
walaikum salam,

wear a saudi headress or better yet a turban.. it's the sunnah right :)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kashif
08/01/01 at 16:20:43
assalaamu alaikum

I take back my request (though funny & perhaps having some educational value) to jehad. I think its out of order how everyone jumped on him.

However, bhaloo, being the only brother administrator, is the chief of the brothers here and i think he should lead by example. So bhaloo.. will you don the hijab for a day and tell us brothers how hard it _really_ is for our womenfolk to wear the hijab in the home?

I've found a nice one for you sardaar-jee:

[img]http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~knasir/hehe.jpg[/img]


hehe. jk.

Kashif
Wa Salaam

NS
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Arsalan
08/01/01 at 17:05:01
[quote]wear a saudi headress or better yet a turban.. it's the sunnah right[/quote]err ...

no!!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
kiwi25
08/01/01 at 17:40:37
salam,

i have another situation in which you have to wear hijab 2/7, im experiencing it right ow an dthats when u live in the dorms of colleges even if its a only girls dorm,

but anwyay, jehad, hijab may "look" comfy but many times they dont "feel" comfy...

yes its hard to clean cook and so on but hijab is another task or chore to do too, (except u get lots of reward for it :)

wasalam
nouha:)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
bhaloo
08/01/01 at 18:03:01
slm

Very funny Kashif, but I have no problem accepting from the sisters that hijab is difficult and a challenge, and my hat/headress goes off to them. :)  Props to all the sisters in hijab.  

I still think it would be a good experience for Jehad to try it out and see, insha'Allah he'll see its not very easy.

p.s. Kashif who did you get to model for you in that picture? ???  Self-portrait?  ;)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
explorer
08/01/01 at 18:43:06
[slm]
Well I have to say that i really admire sisters for wearing hijab and facing the difficulties mentioned earlier. I've often wondered and wanted to ask about hijab when the weather gets hot and recently asked a muslima.....now don't laugh.....how often they have to wash their hair because of the sweat! She burst out into laughter :D  Why???? Legitimate question right?!!
[wlm]
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
meraj
08/01/01 at 19:01:46
slm,

[quote]Very funny Kashif, but I have no problem accepting from the sisters that hijab is difficult and a challenge, and my hat/headress goes off to them. :)  Props to all the sisters in hijab. [/quote]

i second that... :)

[center];-D POWAH TO THA (HIJABI) PEOPLE!!! ;-D[/center]


Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Nazia
08/01/01 at 23:18:18
[quote]nazia- im familiar with that story, wasnt it at FYLTP?..
[/quote]

You were at FYLTP?!?!?!?! :o:o No way!!! do you remember me? My name is Nazia ;)  I was the only chick there from bama.

Take Care,
Wassalam
Nazia
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
The-Doctor
08/02/01 at 00:09:13
[slm]

i would imagine it would really suck for a sister to have wear hijab 24/7, and honestly if the bro is living in his parents home his wife is having to wear hijab 24/7 because of non mahrams being around, well then he needs to get his own place, or figure out a way to get the non mahrams out, the 1st case being the better.

Jehad, im surprised at your comment about the scarf, whether it is uncomfortable or not you should show some rahma to the sisters.

Also Allahu A3laam, but i thought the hadeeth that relates to being ready for marriage, means if you can provide for a family then you can marry, doesn't that also mean providing a home for your family? IE: One that you are paying for?

I mean no offense to brothers who are married and living with their parents, but I have never heard of a case where this a good thing.

wa Allahu A3laam.

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
NewJehad
08/02/01 at 09:44:43
slm

I think you lot want to see me get my head kicked in?
What do you think will happen if I donned one of my mum's hijabs?
All my friends and family will think I turned transvestite?
I am not going to do it because suicide is harram.

I have worn that suadi tablecloth before. I wore it a lot in the mideast to stop my face from peeling off from the sun. Cause I didn't want to use that sun block stuff, cause that's a bit girlie.
Any way, one brother told me not to wear that tablecloth thing, cause the Arabs, both Muslim and pagans never used to wear that, they used to wear turbans.
The people who wore the tablecloth were the Jews of kabar.
So people who wear it are following the sunnah of the kabar Jews.
Oh just remembered. Look back at the hijab thread. I have worn one of my mum's hijabs. Remember?
European Muslims wear that tightly packed turban. One gave one to my brother. So I wanted one as well. So I requisitioned one of my mum's hijabs that was made from the same stuff and used it as a turbin.
I HAVE BEEN A HIJABI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in your face!!!!
I can talk about it. Hah!
It was very comfortable.
Have you lot tried other kinds of hijab?
Silk ones?
You lot can wear silk?
In some parts of the world things are allot hotter, what kind of hijabs do people wear there?
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
bhaloo
08/02/01 at 11:02:55
slm

NewJehad said:
[quote]I HAVE BEEN A HIJABI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in your face!!!!
I can talk about it. Hah!
It was very comfortable.
[/quote]

:o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Mahmoodah
08/02/01 at 12:31:25
k, bro, u've been a hijabi, :o
neways, try it for A WHOLE day, not a second or 2, then u'll know how hard it is!!!!!!!

and silk!!!!!!!!!!!
bro that'd make u MORE hot!!!!!!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
PacificBreeze
08/02/01 at 14:29:58
hey ppl, salaams,
i just skimmed the sister's qs..n i'm sure the rest of u have answered the part about living all together n u should try to find separate accommodations et al....

ne ways i was going to say , yeah, u can show ur arms etc when ur doing housework in the house...it doesn't matter who's there..whether it's a cousin or the guy next door etc..something like that....it's in the fiqhi book..

i don't know if i saved the english translation somewhere..but it discussed the whole awrah...and whether or not you can show your arms etc and what the diff madhabs said etc...

something like that..
ws.

p.s. it's awful ...i've been in that situation when the cuzs are here or we're there...aghhhhhhhhh!!! JUST GO AWAY NONFEMALES! :P jk.
give us our harem privacy! ;) :P
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Lisha
08/02/01 at 19:35:35
slm,
Hmmm!!!
Br. Jehad, wearing cotton instead of silk whilst working would make more sence, don't u think???
ne ways bro if u think its the hijab is that comfy, start wearing a turbun and KEEP it on at all times;)

Like the Doc said (show ramha:):):))

I agree it can b comfy in the winter when ur OUT SIDE in the cold, but even in winter its hard to wear at home!!!  its not even just abt comfort!!!  its worrying abt sum1 (non-mehram) seein ur hair:)

Alhamdulillah i don't hav to wear my hijab 24/7, but when we've got guests at home it can b hard:)

But when u c a hijabi on a hot day, can't u tell how hard it is or r u just kiddin abt the hijabis???

take care
w'salaam
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
slime
08/02/01 at 22:07:03
salam,
time to vent :) u know what? to all the bros: when someone who wears in hijab in front of u is sitting in the room and u walk in and she's not wearing it, just get out! ack, it makes me mad, my cousins just walk in, get whatever they want and walk out, why not knock?

whew, that feels better :)

see, that's why in the summers i don't go outside, its really hot, i just sit in front my pc, beside my good ol' trusty fan.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
halwa
08/03/01 at 00:23:20
Assalamu Alaikum

u kno...ud think this would be one of those guys Vs. girls topics..but alhadmulilah we have some intelligent brothers on this message board..heh :)

nazia- no i wasnt at fyltp..a friend of mine was there..and she told me that story..heh..i even kno who zubaid is..

Id really like to kno about wut the sister said about showing the arm to non mahrams...is this only during housework..or certain actions. Because if we can show them our arm..why should we cover it up in the first place. I can understand tho if it was just osmething that was alllowed so taht it would make the situation of the woman easier while doing housework.

wait..br jihad, which table cloth thing was worn by the jews?..
the red ones that the saudi's wear?..im confused..how many differnet turbens (sp?) are there?

wassaaalamu alaikum
seeba
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
NewJehad
08/03/01 at 12:22:43
halwa, i mean that cloth on the head. its not a turbin. the thing suadis wear.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Nazia
08/03/01 at 17:30:07
[quote]nazia- no i wasnt at fyltp..a friend of mine was there..and she told me that story[/quote]

oh! mind if i ask who?? (i loooved my fyltp crew!)  
Anyways, the funny thing was, the guys who were actng up and getting in trouble...had to wear the flowery hijabs! hehe..

Wassalam,
Nazia
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
nehar
08/04/01 at 19:09:03
[quote]
I've often wondered and wanted to ask about hijab when the weather gets hot and recently asked a muslima.....now don't laugh.....how often they have to wash their hair because of the sweat! She burst out into laughter :D  Why???? Legitimate question right?!!
[/quote]

[slm]

lol, the questions us hijabis get asked put me in stiches!!!i got asked if i take it off wen i have a shower, lol.  I wash my hair 3-4 times a week.

anyways, sumtimes wearing a hijab can b hell, for example wen i went 2 bangladesh me and my sisters had 2 wear it all day, cuz our cuzins didnt understand they cant c our hair!:-)!:-)! 5wks in a hijab!):(!):(!

I suppose there r advantages like wen ur in a hurry u dont have 2 tie it neatly or parties u dont have 2 make an effort like others.

;)good luck 2 the brothers who r gonna try 2 bcum hijabis
take care

[wlm]

nehar
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Sara
08/05/01 at 20:24:35
Assalam,
I don't wear the head scarf. The only times I do is whenever I go to the Mosque. I use to take classes there and sitting in those classes,in hijab, was hot! I was sweaty and my head was itching (no I didn't have lice). And even during the winter in the building was hot.I admire anyone who wears Hijabi everyday. May Allah bless and award you in this life and the life after!!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
jannah
08/06/01 at 16:02:18
freak story #983,209

so there we were this weekend on a nyc public bus in manhattan going to the Met to check out the islamic art (they have some amazzzzinnnng stuff btw) so it's about 100 degrees , 110 in the BUS.... and as we were waiting to get off the bus i had to adjust my scarf and wipe off the sweat... and this woman looked at me across from the other side and smiled fanning herself... i smiled back and gestured 'it sure is hot'... and then she puts her hands up on her head and gestures helpfully ... 'just take it off, it's ok!' meaning my scarf...'take it off'  hah! this was pretty funny so i just shook my head and said "no no it's ok... i'm good thanks"
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
BroHanif
08/07/01 at 09:11:18
A.W.W.

[quote]to clean the whole house, mopping, dusting, vacuming, scrubb the bathroom- give the kids a bath and then finish the day by spending a couple of hours over a hot stove cooking- followed by washing the dishes...don't forget the wash and ironing.
[/quote]

Sister kathy the above I've performed quite easily. In fact I do it regularly, on top of that I need to go to work, change my wee daughters nappy at 2 and 5 in the morning. Do the shopping, perform prayers and excercise. I don't see where the problem is, I for one haven't worn the hijaab but I do wear the Jubbah(it covers my shoulders and sleeves to just above my ankles)  while I perform these good household chores. Wearing a Jabbah  and  Ammahmah on a hot day is tough as well, I'd rather wear shorts and a t-shirt but because of hayah I perfer the Jabbah.

I admire all women who wear the hijaab. And the Bros who help in the housework and keep a beard. :)

As for the Hijaab you don't wear it when you are in front of your husband and child and in the privacy of your own house.

Islam is the easiest way of life not the hardest. :)

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
sarah
08/07/01 at 10:07:24
assalamu alaykum,

BroHanif, sounds like your a helpful husband, mashaAllah.  but, i don't think its being said that brothers don't do these things.  the discussion is about if you were living in a home where non-mahram are always present, it is difficult to do daily tasks wearing hijab all day.

[quote]Islam is the easiest way of life not the hardest.[/quote]

ummm..... islam is a simple way of life. it is the best way of life. but i would not say it is the easiest or the hardest.  some parts are easy for some people and difficult for others.  we trust allah and obey him even when it is difficult for us.  thats the jihad we have with ourselves, and thats how Allah tests his slaves.


Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kathy
08/07/01 at 11:07:58
slm

Sure- I agree the housework is not "hard."
Working with hijab on 24/7- makes it very cumbersome and hot!
It is much easier to clean, cook and wash in a pair of shorts and top!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Barr
08/07/01 at 11:23:37
Assalamu'alaikum :-)

[quote]Working with hijab on 24/7- makes it very cumbersome and hot!
[/quote]

Yeah... U can say that again! Try cementing and painting in the hot 40 degrees celcius sun... and keep it on from morning till evening for 10 days only to take it off when U sleep in your tent each night.

Plus! Weird tan lines that run vertically down your cheeks...

Errr... not to scare anyone from wearing hijab... but I lead a weird life. But it's all gone now *phew* Thank God for self generating skin cells!

Hijab - Never leave home without it... well... for some people ;)
Wassalam :-)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Lisha
08/07/01 at 16:11:01
[quote]the discussion is about if you were living in a home where non-mahram are always present, it is difficult to do daily tasks wearing hijab all day. [/quote]slm,
ummm y would ne 1 hav to wear a hijab soooo long, dont the men go out ever (if they don't just tell them to so u can remove ur hijab)
honestly sum men should just go out so there sister in law's or wat eva can remove their hijab!!!
i agree sis, it must b real hard shoving ppl out the house;)
[arghh we need weapons!!!]

mash'allah, BroHanif its nice to hear u help ur wife:)

take care,
w'salaam
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
jannah
08/07/01 at 16:24:32
kathy housework isn't hard??? hah... i've been vacuuming for the last 4 hours and i think i'm ready to move to a place where carpets haven't been invented yet!! props to all those women who have to solely take care of all the housework and take care of the kids and the hubby at the same time!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Ziggy
08/08/01 at 06:20:05
salaamz.

LOLZ!!! oh man!! brothers wearing hijab!??!!! LOLZ!! u guyz put me in stiches sumtimez!! i can just imagine my own brothers wearing hijaab....:D!! hehehhe!! my bro puts the other scarf thing around his neck..ya know..the saudi type ones...but on his head?!!? LOL!!

bro newjehad...did u really wear hijaab for a WHOLE day or just for a couple of seconds??

hijaabs ok....just not on hot days like about 50 of u already mentioned:)
islam is a moderate religion...Allah (swt) didn't command us to wear hijaab for any ol' reason...it has a purpose...funny...all thru out this thread we've been talkin about hijaab no one mentioned the purpose....but i guess we were absorbed in the hilarious thought of brothers wearing hijaab!!!LOL!!!:D

respect
zakira:-)
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Kathy
08/08/01 at 08:21:17

[quote]kathy housework isn't hard??? hah... i've been vacuuming for the last 4 hours and i think i'm ready to move to a place where carpets haven't been invented yet!! [/quote]

Lol- I meant that it isn't like sore muscle burning brick laying or heavy duty work.

It is all relative! I live in a 5 room apartment- my vacuming takes 30 minute- at most!
NS
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Lisha
08/08/01 at 13:29:13
[quote]i've been vacuuming for the last 4 hours[/quote]slm,
u've been hoovering 4  4hours???
ur house must b BIG!!!!:)

take care,
w'salaam
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
se7en
08/08/01 at 14:02:07
[quote]ur house must b BIG!!!![/quote]

Hahaha..not really :)  Our house was pretty trashed, it was 110 degrees out, and, it might also have had something to do with the "breaks" jannah took.. ;-D

Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Mahmoodah
08/08/01 at 14:15:43

[quote]it might also have had something to do with the "breaks" jannah took.. ;-D
[/quote]

salam, this shounds like a story!!!
sis seven i'm sure u wanna tell us it!!!!!!!!
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
NewJehad
08/13/01 at 07:57:18
slm
ziggy it's funny that all you lot are saying that hijab keeps you hot, cause the reason I wore that Saudi tablecloth was to keep me cool.
It worked.
And I did wear that turban made with a hijab all the time, and it kept me cool. I wet it before hand.
as the water evaporates it removes heat from your head.
Have any of you thought of that?
you know there are countries that are much hotter then the countries we are from, and people even wear Nikkab there. how do they keep cool.
you know when it's hot, you feel hot no matter what you wear. I bet girls in bikinis feel really hot as well.
Here is some thing to make you think, the countries were most people were hijab and turbans are really hot. And the countries where people wear next to nothing are cold, northern Europe.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
Arsalan
08/13/01 at 11:24:28
[slm]

Jehad, although I've never tried on a hijaab myself, I think there is a difference between wearing a ghutrah (headcover for males) and a hijaab.  The ghutrah only covers your head, and flows over shoulders onto your chest.  The front part of your neck is left uncovered.  That leaves a lot of room for *air* to pass into your ghutrah from the front.  Thus you feel cool, because the top part of the ghutrah prevents you from the sunlight, and yet the ghutrah is loose and open enough for air to come in.  Also remember that the ghutrah is not firmly fixed on your head, which often causes it too keep sliding off your head and you must have seen the Saudi shuyookh *constantly* play with their ghutrah to keep it on their head!  

Not so in a hijaab.  The hijaab is tightly fixed to the head and the neck.  There is NO WAY for the air to get in.  Because of the way that the hijaab is tied or put on (if it is put on properly).  So although it shades you from the sun, the lack of air flow causes a lot of heat.

I don't know, but I would think that the best way to lessen the heat effect would be to wear very loose clothing, not tight.  

In any case, may Allah reward those of you who strive through hardshihps and suffering for the Pleasure of Him who gave you life and the chance to attain Paradise - the abode of eternal bliss and comfort.  

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
sarah
08/20/01 at 12:53:20

Assalamu Alaykum,

MashaAllah, br Arslan !  For someone who doesn't wear hijab, you've described it exactly right ;)

hahah..
princess
08/20/01 at 13:35:10
walikumas'salaam warahmatullah ;-D

[quote]MashaAllah, br Arslan !  For someone who doesn't wear hijab, you've described it exactly right[/quote]

:) ;) [suspicious] :) ;) hota hai :) feamanAllah ;-D
Re: Hijabi 24-7?
BUSHRA
08/27/01 at 09:47:04
ASSALAMOALIKUM,
I think I may have a solution.I think most of the sisters here are from Pakistan and over there you can get a chadar that has a long hairband type cloth attached to the front on the head piece.You just tie the head piece behind your neck and that is it.Voila your hijab is on.This chadar covers your head ,arms ,and so on .mine comes down to my knees,so Idont have to worry what I wear under it.And it is more comfortable than regular scarfs and the material is very breathable.
BUSHRA.


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