[MADRASA] Taslim-Salams to the Muslims or to the Angels???

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[MADRASA] Taslim-Salams to the Muslims or to the Angels???
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08/18/01 at 03:43:44
asslamalakum all

When we make Taslim during prayer (the last motion of prayer where we turn our head to the right & left & give Salams), WHO are we giving salams too???

I've heard 2 different things; we are giving salams to the angels that sit on our shoulders recording every action of ours and I also heard that we are giving salams to all the muslims who are praying in the world (on our right side and on our left side).

Any info about this would be appreciated. JazakaALlahKhair


H.R.

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As-Salamu Alaykum
I am sorry for the long delay in getting the information you requested. Here is what Imam Abu Laith Ahmad from Sacramento said:

"This is one of those things that you hear people say but it is not a widely accepted truth. Scholars differ on this issue. Some say that yes, you are giving the salaams to the angels, not just the ones on your right and left, but to all the angels who are close to Allah, Other scholars say that no, this salaams has the purpose of ending the salaat and that's it. Both sides have evidence to back their arguments. They differ because of the way that each group interprets the different hadith on the subject and because of the strength of these hadith.

The ones who say, yes, this salaams is to the angels and to the muslims and to the Imam, base their view partially upon the hadith related by Jaabir ibn Samra: "The Messenger of Allah used to pray four rak'aat before al-Asr [salatul Asr] and would separate between them [every two] by giving salaams the Angels and the Muslims and the Believers [Mu'mineen[ that follow them." Imam Abu Eesa at-Tirmithee relates this hadith twice in his Jaami' [the name of his hadeeth collection] and he says that it is a good hadith.. Then there is a narration that is reported in the Musnad of Imam Ahmad with a slightly different wording: "[salaams be upon] On the close [to Allah]Angels, the prophets, the Muslims and the Believers".

The issue here is that some scholars say that the salaams here is not the salaams of exit [tah'leel] but it is the salaams that are a part of the tashah'hud. [assalaamu alainaa wa alaa ibaadillaahis saaliheen] i.e. may the salaams be upon us and upon all of the righteous servants of Allah. Thus they accept that there is a salaams that is a part of the salaat, directed to the Muslims, to the Angels and to the Imam, however, they say that the this salaams is part of tasha'hud.

Other scholars say no, this salaams mentioned in the hadith is the salaams that exit the salaat. Personally, I think this is the stronger view, because they have other evidences for this point. This is also the view of Imam Shaafi'ee and of Imam Ahmad in one narration about him. This view is aided by the hadith related by as-Samra ibn Jundub: "The Prophet(SAWS) commanded us that we should return the salaams to the Imam, and that we should give salaams to each other". This hadith was related by Abu Dawood, ad-Daarul'qutnee, ans al-Baihaqi. However, in the chain of the hadith held by Abu Dawood there is an individual [Sa'eed ibn Basheer],that the scholars of hadith differ as to his credibility as a narrator.

Most of them do not accept hadith where he is one of the narrators. The chain of ad-Daarul'qutnee and al-Baihaqi are both regarded as good chains [authentic but not rigorously authenticated. The whole issue is slightly complicated. Basically the salaams that exit the salaat can be made with the additional intention to the angels, not just those on your shoulders, and to the Muslims. However, the primary intention [niya] has to be for exiting the salaat. This is because deeds are according to intention. And Allah knows best."

Insha'Allah this helps

Wasalam

Amber


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