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| Anonymous |
| 09/04/01 at 23:27:59 |
| i just got through orientation week at barnard college (columbia university)....and everyone was warning me about how college life is no good for me.. but i figured that im a pretty level headed muslima and i know what not to do..but i gotta say that i was still overwhelmed... i am soo absolutely repulsed by all the gay references made and how much acceptance is flung out there for all this haraam...the saddest part of all was how all these kids were just drinking up all of this nonsense and how brainwashed they are into accepting it.the first couple of days i felt like i was surrounded by the damned. its just so sad that this is supposed to be one of the best schools. but whats really interesting is that many ppl that i talked to told me that they agreed with me and that i was the only one saying what they felt. i dunno maybe i shouldnt make my mission here about crusading against homosexuality but i did say in our group that drugs alcohol and fornication are repulsive to me. and inshAllah our msa will make our presence known this year. but i just wanted to see if anyone had anything to say... |
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| mujaahid |
| 09/05/01 at 10:36:31 |
| Assalaamu Alaikum Sister I understand exactly where your coming from, and its a truly sad situation for you being surrounded by so much harraam. When i went to college, i was shocked at how many homosexuals thier were, and how openly they were accepted, and even encouraged, i was saddened at the amount of drug and alchohol use taking place, and at the loose sexual lifestyles these people were living. Even though these people were doing all this, I was the one singled out as being weird! Me? All i done was be a good muslim, yet these people had muti-coloured hair, numerous body peircings, were homosexuals and THEY were calling ME weird! Luckily for me i am a strong individual and was able to stand up to thier hostilities, but some of the sisters were really given a hard time, labelled as being boring, backwards and controlled by men. I would NEVER send my kids to such a place. Sister arnt thier any more decent places you could study at? Can't you study at a college for older people, as they are less likely to be as bad, being from the "older genrations"? Are their any islaamic schools you could attend? I dont really know what advice to give you. If you have other options, like other colledges, islaamic colleges, ven if thier a lot further away, you should attend them and you difficulty in getting travelling is something you'll be rewarded for by Allah (awj). If this is not an option then i guess you dont really have a choice but to go to these corrupt institutions. In that case its best to find a few muslims to stick with, and try not to get involved, or get too friendly with the others as they could have an influence on you. In such a place its best to keep yourself to yourself, be strong, get the educatin you need and get out of the place once you graduate! Sorry i couldnt be off much help! |
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| jannah |
| 09/05/01 at 13:19:22 |
| anonymous, unfortunately that is life in nyc.. everything depraved is accepted and celebrated... i know a sister that is going to columbia and feels the same way as you. please email me and i will forward it to her so you guys can get together inshaallah.. she attends the columbia msa meetings as well. try to find a few good people that you can always hang out with. kind of like an 'insanity check' every now and then :) and that way you guys can help each other in your islam. |
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| Fatoosh |
| 09/05/01 at 18:52:02 |
[quote] When i went to college, i was shocked at how many homosexuals thier were, and how openly they were accepted, and even encouraged, i was saddened at the amount of drug and alchohol use taking place, and at the loose sexual lifestyles these people were living. [/quote] Salaam Alaikum Same here. I've dropped courses many times because of this. Just this semester I had to drop a seminar entitled "Literature and the Law" cuz of it, fortunately the prof told us in advance what the books were going to be about. My university goes out of its way to hire homosexual and transvestite professors. I'm worried about my baby brother (age six)... where will he go? things are going to be much worse if they world keeps moving in its current direction. [quote]unfortunately that is life in nyc.. everything depraved is accepted and celebrated... [/quote] hmmm... so is it mainly big cities which have problems like this? Universities in Albany and other small place aren't like this? Salaam Fatoosh |
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| bhaloo |
| 09/05/01 at 19:07:29 |
| slm [quote]unfortunately that is life in nyc.. everything depraved is accepted and celebrated [/quote] I read some statistic recently that 1/3 of the men in NY are homosexual or perhaps it was just NYC ??? I thought that was pretty shocking. |
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| se7en |
| 09/05/01 at 22:56:18 |
| [quote]hmmm... so is it mainly big cities which have problems like this? Universities in Albany and other small place aren't like this?[/quote]wa alaykum as salaam wrt, dude, are you joking? The president of the Students' Association at my school (U @ Albany) is openly homosexual, not to mention the pride alliance and all the other pro-homosexual groups on campus. We're also the hub of Jewish studies for all state universities in New York, with nine Jewish organizations on campus including two that are Zionist. So.. dawah tables are interesting :) And about drinking and drugs.. a few years back University @ Albany was named the # 1 party school in the country!! so beat that :P I think college is definitely difficult no matter where you go.. but a hundred times more challenging in a place that doesn't have a strong Muslim community/MSA. The company you keep is so important.. definitely try to "bling bling with the right crowd" as jannah would say :P wasalaamu alaykum.. ps - fatoosh it was cool meeting you at isna :) |
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| mujaahid |
| 09/06/01 at 06:03:01 |
| Assalaamu-alaikum "I read some statistic recently that 1/3 of the men in NY are homosexual or perhaps it was just NYC I thought that was pretty shocking." Nah man! That can't be right! I mean thiers quite a few bro's in NYC! That would mean 1/3 of em are gay! No way! Well i HOPE its not true! So any NYC bro's in here? Or should that be YMCA bro's ;) |
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| taffi |
| 09/08/01 at 21:26:19 |
| as salaamoo alaikum wa rehmatullahi well i was the one who posted that initial message...thanx for replying...yeah i visited the msa i met a couple of first years at columbia... im dragging them all to a program about college life and islam with Imam Siraj @ NYU inshAllah...(isnt it amazing how Allah (Swt) gets back to ya?) i just happened to chance upon a couple of ppl who are intimidated by msa and want to know more about islam because someone in their family is muslim. Alhamdullilah may Allah give us all taufiq... it helped me feel a little bit more useful and focused also...and jannah if you could email me the columbia muslimas email that would be great. jazakumallah khair, iffat |
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| se7en |
| 09/08/01 at 21:49:58 |
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllah, wait a minute.. I think I know you!! :) At least through email :) Do you remember me? We talked about college applications, sat scores, and you told me about Barnard.. I think maybe we met at myna? Sound familiar? :) |
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| taffi |
| 09/09/01 at 08:03:44 |
| as salaamoo alaikum wa rehmatullahi yeah i know you =)!!but we didnt meet at myna cuz ive never been to myna... we were talking about attending a ym camp in new jersey with sister iman. too bad we dont have you here with us...MashaAllah you seem like a very dedicated sister.I was thinking during islam awarness week we'd bombard the school with quotes about islam from everywhere! and have posters of malcolm x and muhammad ali so we could get ppl interested in coming...maybe even join up with the black association. you know i applied to barnard b/c i knew br abdullah adhami did jumah here once a month and i thought the msa was really good...but hes gone =(. anyways fatima abbasi from nj (i dont know if you know her) might be transferring here. ...so im out -ma salaam ya aquette! |
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| taffi |
| 09/09/01 at 10:21:10 |
| --------------------------------------------------------------------- Luckily for me i am a strong individual and was able to stand up to thier hostilities, but some of the sisters were really given a hard time, labelled as being boring, backwards and controlled by men. I would NEVER send my kids to such a place. --------------------------------------------------------------------- awww br. mujahid that sounds really really bad! fortunately no one has been hostile to me like that. and my bro also said that he would never send his daughters away to dorm. all this haram is there but its not in my face..still can be pretty depressing thou. but i think its good to have muslims make there presence known here, be an example and such. but i dont think that applies to everyone, and im not even sure if that applies to me. i think ive seen more muslims loose their islamic identity in highschool than in college. as for the homosexual thing: you can really make ppl think about that. (they are so brain washed) Once one of my brothers professors was talking about the "logic" to being gay and she used the example of a screw driver and how it doesnt only have one function you can use it to open a can, etc... and my brother was like "alright then why dont u stick it up your eye?" and she was like well thats not a proper function and he was like so then there ARE improper functions.haha he is a smart kid MashaAllah.. that teacher gave him a bad grade tho..but who cares? its funny you know how hard they try to make being gay sumthing that cant be helped..all that gay gene bull...but that doesnt prove anything either because sickle cell anemia is hereditary..ALCOHOLISM is said to be hereditary that doesnt make it anymore acceptable..infact its considered a DESEASE. |
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| mujaahid |
| 09/10/01 at 05:17:39 |
| Assalaamu-Alaikum Iffat! Yeah its sad how these people try so hard to justify homosexuality! They even say dolphins are bisexual! And that monkeys are gay! Come on who are these poeple trying to kid? Homosexuality is a form of mental illness, and instead of being helped, all they hear is "no no dont worry, its cool, its the 21st century, you have nothing to be ashmed off, you should be proud, stand up for your beliefs blah blah yip yip bubk buck, rabble rablle" SHUT UP! For gods sake they actually think homosexuality is COOL? yeahk! An exist is an exit! It should never be used as an entrance! Astagfirallah, but i know a gay muslim, he works with me, and its sickening, well actually he's bisexual! I NEVER speak to him, i blank him totally! How can i ever speak to such a vile creature? And the way he walks, it freaks me out! That is a consequence of entering an Exit ;) "br. mujahid that sounds really really bad! fortunately no one has been hostile to me like that" Your lucky sis! I take it your from the US? Well in the UK some of the natives can be pretty ignorant and nastey to muslim women, however i have seen the muslim women now stand up for themselves pretty good!!! But they still face hostilities! Dont know why, maybe its because they dont need to degrade themselves, which angres the others i.e "who do these muslims think they are, we have to wear skirts and low cut tops to get men to look at us, yet these girls aren't bothered with anything like that, they make us look even worse!" Well thats my opinion anyway :) |
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