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| eleanor |
| 09/09/01 at 10:09:19 |
| Bismillah ar Rahman ar Raheem slm A question regarding dua..how specific do you have to be when making dua? For example if you are praying for someone to recover from illness do you have to go into his name, the illness and so on or just to mention them and that you want them to get better? The same in asking forgiveness for sins. Do you have to list out your sins or is it okay to ask collectively for forgiveness and Allah knows what you mean? And will he forgive all your sins all together or only the little ones and the big ones have to be listed out seperately? This question has been bothering me for ages now so it's about time I put it up here and got you all onto the case. Jazak Allah Khayrun! wasalaam eleanor |
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| Fahad |
| 09/09/01 at 12:36:47 |
| [wlm] I am not sure. But I think you would just need to have the specific things in your intentions. Please correct me if I am wrong. Allahu A'alam [slm] |
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| Anik |
| 09/09/01 at 15:46:30 |
| asalaamu alaikum, yeah but at the same time, Allah Subhana knows all right? so it's like telling a story to someone who already and always has known it... they can fill in the blanks and underatand the details right? I 'm not sure though, how it works for Allah Subhana, just a thought though. asalaamu alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| meraj |
| 09/09/01 at 15:58:04 |
| slm, the following is simply my own thoughts :) Allah is Al-Alam.. the all knowing.. so of course He's gonna know what it is you're asking forgiveness for, whether you mentionit or not... as human beings, we are not perfect, and we are bound to forget things, or simply not be aware of things.. so if we forget about a specific sin or we are unaware that we did somethgin that was sinful, as long as we recognize that we have comitted sins and ask forgiveness for them, then Allah would forgive them. yes our sins should weigh heavily upon us and we shoudl hasten to repent for them, but no human being is going to remember every single thing that he/she has done... and also if one has done many sins that are more than can be listed one by one, but as long as the person is sincerely sorry for them and repents for them then inshallah they will be forgiven. however, i dont think it would hurt to mention them all individually because we know that one of the requirements in duaa is to really have a strong desire for what it is you are asking, so saying them all individually may help one further achieve this state of worship. Allahu'Alam... please correct me if i have said somethign incorrect :) |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/09/01 at 18:15:02 |
| [slm] The more specific that you can get, the more you can articulate *exactly* what it is that you want, the better. This does not mean, of course, that Allah does not know what is in our hearts. He does. But u know what, sometimes we ourselves don't know exactly what we want! And this is why we often times cannot articulate our needs in prayers. So make sure your intentions are clear, and that you know exactly what it is that you are asking for, and then ask for it specifically. Another reason why du'aas should be specific and detailed, especially about sins, is because it induces a sense of guilt in your heart when you recount the sin that you have committed in front of your Lord. You should despise yourself for committing such an act, and this feeling will not come in your heart until you recount the sin verbally ... listening to yourself as you describe the act which you committed because of your weakness. Then you should admit in front of Allah that you are weak, that He is strong. You should praise Him, as a King is praised when he is about to be asked for a favor. And then you should cry in front of him and ask for forgiveness from that particular sin, and all sins in general. You should ask protection from His punishment in this life, in the life of the grave, and in the Afterlife. You should ask protection from the humiliation of the Day of Judgment, when all accounts will be concealed in front of all humanity, except for those that Allah veils. And you should ask Allah to protect your heart from being misguided again, once it has been set straight by the controller of all Hearts. This is for asking forgiveness for sins. As for making du'aa for someone else, it's good to name them and the illness. However, if you don't want to expose the name of the person in a collective du'aa, or the particular illness, the du'aa can contain general words. Again, the du'aa should contain praise of Allah, mention of our weakness before Him and His ability to do anything, and then the mention of the exact need. Wallahu a'lam. Wassalamu alaikum. |
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| Barr |
| 09/10/01 at 00:47:39 |
| Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullah :) [quote]The more specific that you can get, the more you can articulate *exactly* what it is that you want, the better. This does not mean, of course, that Allah does not know what is in our hearts. He does. But u know what, sometimes we ourselves don't know exactly what we want! And this is why we often times cannot articulate our needs in prayers. So make sure your intentions are clear, and that you know exactly what it is that you are asking for, and then ask for it specifically.[/quote] Ditto, mashaAllah... When we know exactly what we want, and articulate it, it would plant a commitment in us to strive towards what we want. And for us to remember and maintain such a commitment that we have made to Allah, even when Allah places obstacles and challenges along the way. Remember me in your du'as :-) wassalam |
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| Anonymous |
| 09/10/01 at 12:57:04 |
| Assalamu Alaikum WRB... "DUA" is weapon of a believer more powerful than guns, arms, armies, and bombs etc. It is said to be the main gist ("mukkhul") of worship ("ibaadah"). Some suggestion: Ask "dua", both in general and also in specific, because there is evidence from Qur'aan, Sunnah and the from the pious followers of Islam (muttaqeen). I can think of the following examples : Zakariya A'laihissalaam prayed to the Allah SWT thus **** "O my Lord! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer! *** mentioning his weaknesses, that he is old, his wife is barren, his body has become weak. One of the duas of Rasul Sallahu Alaihi wasallam which is general: "Allahummmagfirli Maa Khaddamtu wa maa aqqartu wa maa A'lantu wa maa asrartu wa maa asraftu wa maa anta a'lamu behee minnee antal muqaddimu wa antal muaqqiru La ilaaha illa anta" close meaning being : Oh Allah, forgive my sins of the past and of the future, that I have committed in a open manner and also that were committed in a secret manner, that were committed by going beyond limits, those sins that which YOU are aware of better than me, for YOU were there in the Beginning and YOU will be there at the End, and No one is worthy of worship except YOU. This is such a comprehensisve Dua that it covers a lot of aspects. Who could teach us better that Rasul of Allah Sallahu Alaihi wa Sallam, the best teacher ever. Make dua from Quraan and Sunnah as well as in your own language. Praise Allah much and send durood on Rasul of Allah Sallahu Alaihi wa Sallam both at the beginning and at the end of dua. I pray to Allah SWT that it is helpful. Brother in Islam |
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| princess |
| 09/10/01 at 16:23:13 |
| walikumas'salaam warahmatullah ;-D u [i]gotta[/i] break it down :) that's all :) feamanAllah ;-D |
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| eleanor |
| 09/11/01 at 05:47:16 |
| slm Jazak Allahu Khayrun to all of you for answering my question. I was never sure about this before but I played it safe and tried to be specific. Looks like I was doing okay. It's such a wonderful feeling when Allah answers your duas isn't it? May Allah bless and protect you all in this and the afterlife. wasalaam eleanor |
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| eleanor |
| 09/11/01 at 05:49:31 |
| slm since this is my thread I'm allowed........... "Wooooo hooo, 400 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Am I a Mu'min now? am I am I??????????? At this major hurdle in my clamber up the posting ranks, let me thank you all for the wonderful posts which we have shared. May it continue forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 ;-D :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ;-D wasalaam eleanor |
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| eleanor |
| 09/14/01 at 13:08:55 |
| slm another couple of salah related prayers.. (will she ever stop, I hear you say) if you miss a rakah then what do you do and if you do a rakah too many then what do you do? 'nother question. Is it required to do Wudhu five minutes before prayer time so you're ready to pray when the time comes, or do you have to do Wudhu *after* prayer time comes....?? appreciate it, wasalaam eleanor |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/14/01 at 17:50:08 |
| [slm] [quote]if you miss a rakah then what do you do and if you do a rakah too many then what do you do?[/quote]The question is a bit unclear. Assuming you are talking about the case in which an individual, out of forgetfulness, adds or deletes a rak'ah: This is a lengthy topic! Insha Allah I'll write a post on it when I get the time. [quote]Is it required to do Wudhu five minutes before prayer time so you're ready to pray when the time comes, or do you have to do Wudhu *after* prayer time comes....??[/quote]Either one is fine. Basically, you need to have wudoo before you begin your prayer, and throughout the rest of the prayer. If you break your wudoo in the middle of the prayer, your prayer is automatically terminated. You need to redo your wudoo and restart your prayer. Hope that helps. Wassalamu alaikum. |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/15/01 at 01:56:16 |
| [slm] Some time ago I attended a very informative lesson in our Masjid about Prayer and took some notes on it. I have typed them up so they can be useful for people. They also contain the answer to eleanor's first question about prayer. (Note: the quick answer to your question, eleanor, would be that you must perform two sajdahs *before* saying salaam if you *skip* something in the prayer; whereas you must perform two sajdahs *after* saying salaam if you *add* something to the prayer. However, this is an over-simplified rule of thumb as the notes will show insha Allah). PRAYER I. Conditions of the Prayer – [i]Anything that comes before starting the prayer[/i] 1. Purification (tahaarah) 2. Facing the Qiblah 3. Entrance of time 4. Covering the awrah (**everything except face** for women, everything between the navel and knees for men) 5. Intention Missing any of the above mentioned conditions INVALIDATES the prayer & thus the entire prayer must be REPEATED. II. Pillars of the Prayer – [i]Anything that is performed during the prayer, and missing which invalidates the prayer[/i] 1. Standing (if able) 2. 1st Takbir 3. Qiraat [recitation of] al-Fatihah 4. Rukoo’ [bowing] 5. Rising from rukoo’ 6. Sujood [prostration] on 7 bones: [list] [*] bone connecting nose with forehead [*] 2 hands [*] 2 knees [*] 2 feet[/list] 7. Raising from sujood 8. Sitting between the 2 sujood 9. Calmness in every pillar 10. Performing the pillars in order 11. Sitting for the last tashahhud 12. The last tashahhud (at-Tahiyyat) 13. Durood shareef [saying Allaahumma salli 3alaa Muhammad ...] in tashahhud 14. Tasleem [saying Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah twice at the end of the prayer] **If you realize that you missed a pillar within the next *cycle* of the prayer, you must make up that pillar. Sajda sahu can NOT make it up (more will be mentioned later about sajda sahu). So, suppose you missed the rukoo and went straight from the standing position to the sujood. You realize your mistake in your second sujood. You must immediately go back up to the standing position and make rukoo’ and continue from there. Consider another example. Suppose you make only one sajdah after which you come back up to the standing position to recite al-Fatihah. You realize in the middle of the Surah that you only made the 1st sajdah and missed both the jalsah (sitting position between the 2 sujood) and the 2nd sajdah itself. You must go straight down to the SITTING POSITION. Then make a sajdah (this will be the 2nd sajdah which you had missed). Then continue your prayer onwards. **If you realize that you missed a pillar AFTER the next cycle of the prayer, you must CANCEL that entire CYCLE in which you missed the pillar. So, suppose you miss the rukoo’ in the first rak’ah of a 4 rak’ah prayer. You realize your mistake in the 3rd rak’ah. It’s too late to go back and make up the missed rukoo’. You must cancel that first rak’ah. So your 2nd rak’ah was your first rak’ah. Your 3rd rak’ah is will now be your 2nd rak’ah. And so on. **In any case, you must make a sajdah sahu at the end of the prayer. The method will be explained later. III. Obligations of the Prayer – [i]If missed intentionally, the prayer is invalidated. If missed unintentionally, a sajdah sahu will make it up.[/i] 1. Every takbir [saying Allahu Akbar] except the first Takbir 2. Saying Subhana Rabbiyal Adheem once during rukoo’ 3. Saying Sami’allahu liman hamidah (only for the imam) 4. Saying Rabbanaa lakal hamd 5. Saying Subhana Rabbiyal a’laa once during sujood 6. Saying Rabbigh Fir Lee in the sitting between the 2 sujood 7. 1st Tashahhud 8. Sitting for the 1st Tashahhud IV. Sunan of the Prayer – [/i]If missed, the prayer is still valid, and no sajdah sahu needs to be made.[/i] Examples: 1. Recitation of a surah after al-Fatihah 2. Putting right hand over left, etc. V. Sajdah as-Sahu – [i]How to perform it[/i] 1. Adding something during the prayer: Intentionally - invalidates the prayer Unintentionally – 2 sujood *after* tasleem 2. Missing an obligation during the prayer: Intentionally – invalidates the prayer Unintentionally – 2 sujood *before* tasleem 3. Doubt: If you are in doubt whether or not you performed an act, and you have no idea whether you did or not, then consider that you did NOT make it. Therefore perform sajdah sahu *before* tasleem P.S. Sajdah sahu consists of two sajdahs, and Subhana Rabbiyal a’laa is recited in both sujood. P.P.S. If anything is unclear (I'm sure many things are), please ask questions! Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh |
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| bhaloo |
| 09/15/01 at 02:18:25 |
| slm [quote] 4. Covering the awrah (**everything except face** for women, everything between the navel and knees for men) 5. Intention Missing any of the above mentioned conditions INVALIDATES the prayer & thus the entire prayer must be REPEATED. [/quote] I'm not so sure about point #4 INVALIDATING the prayer, check this out from islam-qa.com. I know this discussion surfaced on here before. What should one do if one is praying behind the Imam and sees part of his body uncovered? Answer: If someone if in a congregational prayer behind the Imam and sees the ‘awrah (those parts of the body that a man or a woman must cover.) uncovered due to an opening in his clothes or due to his clothes being thin and transparent, then if it is possible he should go ahead and cover it with something, otherwise he should move and come out of prayer and inform the Imam by saying “cover your ‘awrah” (in Arabic “ghatti il-‘awrah”), or “protect what has been uncovered”. He must not stay quiet and continue to pray because it is known that the Imam’s prayer (in the said condition) is incorrect and following him is incorrect as well.1 From the rulings of Shaikh Abdul Aziz bin Baz |
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