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I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/20/01 at 12:49:41
Assalaamu-alaikum

Sister a couple of weeks back i told you we should all be trained in self defence, yet some of the sisters started nagging ", we can't, we dont have the time, its pointless, we'll freeze during an attack, thiers no classes"

Well now a time of calamity has arrived, muslim women are not just an easy target, they are *THE* target. So sisters now your gona be targetted in revenge attacks, so unless you wanna be beaten up and bashed around and be seen as an easy target, get out and start trianing. Its simple. And it could help save you from a real nastey attack from muslim hating scum.

Just look at the amount of muslim women who have been attacked. DO something about it.

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Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Lisha
09/20/01 at 12:55:58


r u tryin to tell us that most muslim women r NOT fit n dont do sum sorta exercise??? i hope not!!!  coz i'm sure most of us do some forn of exercise:)

ne ways, me iz off 4 training;)

take care,
w'salaam
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/24/01 at 11:41:46
Assalamu-Alaikum Lisha!

No i'm not saying most muslim women are not physically fit, what i'm saying is most muslim women have no idea of any kind of self defence training! And in a time like this its vital they DO have some kind of training, intense self defence training, like boxing, kick-boxing, not that hoo haa fancy girly uselss karate stuff, i mean real intense aggressive fight training!


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Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Spring
09/22/01 at 03:02:46
[slm] all,

Hope everyone's doing okay.

This reminds me of a time when one of the brothers of the Islamic Society said to me that one of the other brothers had suggested that the sisters get some exercise equipment on their side of the prayer room!!And he wasn't saying it cos he was worried about our health!! Can you imagine. :o

Ma'assalaama
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
BroHanif
09/23/01 at 07:19:18
I I let the brother talk, I think he really really really cares about u sisters. Not to say that I don't !

And just another question if someone did say to you you were fat, would you get upset ? Maybe its the truth ? Or do you want to be known to be thin but you are really a bit overweight for your size and health ?
Would you be happy if someone said that you were slim but were not ?

I'm over my ideal weight but due to my body frame I look slim and when people say to me that I look slim or thin I dooo get a bit upset, because I'm not. :)

Anyway just gathering thoughts...

Have an easy day.

H
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Kathy
09/23/01 at 09:23:54
Most of us own mirrors....
We don't need people to tell us ....
Unless you get some perverse satisfaction of pointing out our flaws to us....
NS
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Marcie
09/23/01 at 10:59:46
As salamu Abu Fatimah,

I really don't think that it is good for Muslims to get caught up in the weight game.  Al hamdu lillah Allah (swt) has made us in all shapes and sizes.  
Last year in our school there was a girl that suffered so badly form anorexia that she had to be hospitalized.  She was only 12 years old.  
Muslims should not allow the media craze about thiness to dictate their lives.

As salamu alaykum
Marcie
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Lisha
09/23/01 at 15:05:48
[quote]I I let the brother talk, I think he really really really cares about u sisters. Not to say that I don't !

And just another question if someone did say to you you were fat, would you get upset ? Maybe its the truth ? [/quote]slm,

yeah may be he does care, but the way he says it dont sound right:( i'm sure me and the sisters r not tring to gang up on the bro (or b horrible to him), but his approach sounds a bit off!!!:(

And if sum 1 called me fat or skinny i wouldn't care abt wat they had to say specially if it was a bro, coz he shouldn't be looking;).
But, honestly, if sum1 told me that i was fat coz i wanted to know! i'd b happy dat they were honest to me:)
I wouldn't like sum1 i din know out of nowhere commenting on the way i look or dress!!!

btw, being fat or skinny does not prove how healthy u r!!!
coz 1 of my aunty's eat properly and shez real skinny but she cant even walk 4 more then 5 mins:(  so sisters and bros we should respect the shape and size of others!! specially if its gunna hurt their feelings by commentin on their size:)

take care,
w'salaam

Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Lisha
09/23/01 at 15:08:21
slm,

my sister, mahmoodah said:
i'm fit and healthy and i am also a muslimah;-D

w'salaam
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Hania
09/24/01 at 06:16:23
[quote]
Well you dont seem to have no problem in pointing out my flaws. Whats that word that begins with "H"?[/quote]

Hysterical :)

Brother mujaahid calm down, everyone truely appreciates the advice
you are trying to offer and so many sisters have come to your defence.

But the main reason so many of us are offended by your comments is because a lot of them are phrased in an offensive manner. You obviously do this unintentionally, and perhaps some are meant to be jokes but comments you've made in other threads have been really hurtful. (I can mail you the threads I'm talking about).

[quote]
Look if thats what you think of me then i'll stay silent from now on. I know now who can and who cannot take a joke.

Sadly most of the sisters cannot take a joke! Well so be it! [/quote]

Nobody is (directly) telling you to keep quiet. We are all just trying to help you by telling you how you can become a better person. The same way you help us by telling us how we can be better sisters :)

And I think I can take a joke - provided it is tasteful and actually funny!! :)

I for one would just appreciate if you would be more diplomatic in your choice of words. Try not to hurt people by saying you HAVE to do this, try not to call people HURTFUL names and don't generalise people by saying all people of one group are bad because just because
you've had a bad experience with one of them.

Try and do this and InshAllah we will be happy.
So don't be upset. We're not doing it to be horrid bceause deep down we care about you and we all love you really :)

Hania

Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/24/01 at 06:12:50
Assalaamu-alaikum Hania

Thank you for your kind words :)

"and so many sisters stuck up for you"

:( Are they using the invisible posting option ;) I havn't read any in my defence, sob sob :(

"The same way you like to tell us sisters how to be better sisters"

...and better fighters ;)

" I for one would just appreciate if you would be more diplomatic in your choice of words"

yeah i know, i must try harder, but arguing with the Kuffar 24/7 and listening to them calling all pratising muslims militants, and fanatics etc leaves it scares, and i cannot ignore them because someone MUST answer the things they say or others reading it will think it must be true as knowne is saying anything against it!

"So don't be upset. We're not doing it to be horrid"

sob sob :( Ok i'll stop crying now but if you ever pick on me again i'm gona tell my mum of you ;)

But seriously, Jazaakullah for the advice, much appreciated!

Maasalaam


Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
M.F.
09/24/01 at 08:35:48
Assalamu alaiikum
This is in defense of Brother Mujaahid.  Judging from this post and previous ones (see the comments on sisters taking off hijaab) Br. Mujaahid sounds quite young, wallahu a'lam, and therefore is probably a little more rash than he intends to be.  I hope insha Allah that taking that into consideration, sisters won't be as offended by what he says.  
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/24/01 at 08:52:35
Salaam

Just in case your wondering, i'm 21 :)
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
BroHanif
09/25/01 at 16:42:37
Masha-allah 21 years young. May Allah make your young years good in ibadah and find you many a good wives, not to say that your not married and have many lovely kids. :) Ameen.

H
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/26/01 at 02:25:01
Assalaamu-alaikum Bro

<<and find you many a good wives>>

LOL!!! Many wives??? No way man! Ones enough for me! Dont think i can cope with one, let alone several ;)

<<not to say that your not married and have many lovely kids>>

LOL!! no i'm not married, i wanna get married, wanted to marry for a few years, but the problems always arise when mudhabs are mentioned which is a bit dissapointing (psst!! dont tell Jannah i mentioned Mudhabs, she dont like us talking about them ;)

Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Zara
09/26/01 at 09:48:37

[quote]Assalaamu-alaikum Bro

<<and find you many a good wives>>

LOL!!! Many wives??? No way man! Ones enough for me! Dont think i can cope with one, let alone several ;)

<<not to say that your not married and have many lovely kids>>

LOL!! no i'm not married, i wanna get married, wanted to marry for a few years, but the problems always arise when mudhabs are mentioned which is a bit dissapointing (psst!! dont tell Jannah i mentioned Mudhabs, she dont like us talking about them ;)

[/quote]

we have already had extensive discussion about madhabs on this board. so it is best to refer to previous threads.

here's some links


http://www.youngmuslims.ca/media/LDOD/abu_hanifa.mp3
This is an audio lecture of Shaykh Muhammad Zahid Aboghoddah, which they gave in toronto,canada. It
basically decribes Imam Abu Hanifa's biography.
 
These three web links pertain to his history in written form.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~iidc/qalam/html/ahan.html
 
http://www.abc.se/~m9783/ahanifa_e.html
 
http://www.islamicleaders.com/imams/hanifa.htm

i am assuming that most people with origins in the indo-pak subcontinent are brought up with hanafi fiqh.
 
[I] are you an american brother?[/I]

slm

Zara
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/26/01 at 10:26:41
Assalaamu-alaikum

No i'm from Britain!

Actually talking of Indo-Pak, it seems thier is most friction between these groups and parents seen desparate to prevet interacial marriages! sad but true.

Well hopefully when this older generation are gone, the younger generations will not adopt this racist attitude, inshallah.

About Mudhabs, dont wanna get this thread locked, but i just wanted to say, in the time of the prophet Muhammed (saw), mudhabs just didnbt exist. Its sad that now we feel we must belong to a certain mudhab.

Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Saleema
09/26/01 at 10:56:56
in the time of the prophet Muhammed (saw), mudhabs just didnbt exist. Its sad that now we feel we must belong to a certain mudhab.

That's why you should go and visit those links that Zara provided so kindly. And no discussion of madhabs in here. Thank you.

[wlm]

Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
mujaahid
09/26/01 at 11:00:21
"That's why you should go and visit those links that Zara provided so kindly. And no discussion of madhabs in here. Thank you"

hey thats jannah's line ;)

Anyway i wasnt talking specifically about a certain Mudhab(s) i was just saying its sad we judge each other on that and no longer see the Shahaada as the only thing that matters.
Re: I WARNED YOU BE READY!!!
Zara
09/28/01 at 06:14:26

[quote]Assalaamu-alaikum

No i'm from Britain!

Actually talking of Indo-Pak, it seems thier is most friction between these groups and parents seen desparate to prevet interacial marriages! sad but true.

Well hopefully when this older generation are gone, the younger generations will not adopt this racist attitude, inshallah.

About Mudhabs, dont wanna get this thread locked, but i just wanted to say, in the time of the prophet Muhammed (saw), mudhabs just didnbt exist. Its sad that now we feel we must belong to a certain mudhab.

[/quote]

forget interacial friction, it's more deep rooted.  there are worse restrictions like caste.  this is due to generations of indo-pak muslims who have been brain washed with a hindu custom and think it is right.  it is rather unfortunate.  it is hard to undo years of ingrained ideologies that have little to do with Islam.

are you familiar with the ayah

ask someone who knows, if you know not.
(can't remember surah name!)

like saleema has suggested, check out the madhab links and what the qualified scholars thoughts are.  

madhab being a precondition to marriage is preferable because it reduces a difference in the way one practices Islam.  anyways do check out the information before you make a definite decision.


also bro, please be a bit more open minded and read up about madhabs.  

slm

Zara


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