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| The origin of the Mafia |
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| bhaloo |
| 09/28/01 at 08:56:14 |
| slm When Sicily fell to the Crusaders after 500 years of Islamic rule, the remaining Muslims struggled to preserve their religion. A great misfortune that occured at this time was the common practice of children getting baptised simply because they would have argument with their parents. Of course, the church obliged. It was a time of great struggle for the Muslims, where they daily faced harassment, murder, torture and other crimes at the hands of the Catholics. From this scenario emerged a group of very strong and thuggish young Muslim men who would go around terrorizing the Catholics to the point that they would do anything for relief. So a very well dressed group from amongst that group went house to house, business to business, collecting "protection" money. If they paid, then they would receive "`aafiyah" or "pardon". This group of young Sicilian Muslim thugs was called "al-Ma`fiyah" aka "The Mafia". |
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| Ziggy |
| 09/28/01 at 11:37:38 |
[quote] This group of young Sicilian Muslim thugs was called "al-Ma`fiyah" aka "The Mafia". [/quote] salaamz. hmmm...interesting piece of info..jazakallah khair for that... ;-D ma'assalaama zakira |
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| flyboy_nz |
| 09/28/01 at 12:58:55 |
| [slm] this is great! so does this mean I'm 'connected'8-)?? I mean we're all one brotherhood and all. Do the Mafia today know this?? Perhaps we should engage in dawah?! The name now makes sense...we have the same word in hindi- maaf, which means forgive. |
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| Saleema |
| 09/28/01 at 22:13:54 |
| Do the Mafia today know this?? Perhaps we should engage in dawah?! LOL :D yeah, that would be great! I would be up for it if i ever come across any of them. [wlm] |
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| Kashif |
| 09/29/01 at 05:09:22 |
| Kind f gives an Islamic slant to even the Albanyia Ma'fiya doesn't it? |
| NS |
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| Ziggy |
| 09/29/01 at 09:05:22 |
[quote]Kind f gives an Islamic slant to even the Albanyia Ma'fiya doesn't it?[/quote] LOL! :D funny (and interesting) how most words originate from Arabic... 8-) ;-D wassalaam zakira |
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| Mona |
| 09/29/01 at 13:09:55 |
| wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatu Allah, Arshad, is this for real? Enlighten us plz. -m |
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| bhaloo |
| 09/29/01 at 13:29:53 |
| slm A brother from Houston sent it to a maillist, and I haven't heard any one saying it wasn't true. Its interesting. |
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| Barr |
| 09/29/01 at 23:35:47 |
| Assalamu'alaikum :-) You know, this is interesting indeed. But, I'm not too sure, that I'm comfortable with it. Look what the Mafia has evolved into. Anyways... there is a point in the sirah that I've been wondering for about 6 years now. I've heard some views about it, but maybe the Board can shed some light too, inshaAllah. It's about when the Prophet and sahabahs went to meet the leader of a country and ask them to embrace Islam, if not, they've got to pay jizyah and if not, they'll fight them. So... how does this differ from those Mafia and gangsters and secret societies, who somewhat adopt the same strategy of: 1) Join our gang 2) If not, pay protection money 3) If not, we'll kill ya. Thanx Allahua'lam |
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| Arsalan |
| 09/30/01 at 01:45:25 |
| [slm] To answer your question, Sr. Barr, I don't really know how gangs work. I guess the Albanyia Mafia can shed some more light on it :) But I think there's a big difference between what you stated about gangs and the Islamic khilafah of old. The Islamic khilafah only presented those 3 options to those nations who were either: a. openly hostile against them b. openly supported those that were hostile against them c. oppressive to any person who chose to follow the Deen of Islam in their land d. denied any Muslim from coming into their land and performing da'wah to the people If a nation, on the other hand, kept peace treaties with the Khilafah, maintained friendly relations, allowed the Muslims to come into their land and live as normal citizens, practice their Deen and make da'wah to the people, then there was no presentation of the 3 options you mentioned from the Islamic khilafah. The non-Muslim state, in this case, is known as the "abode of treaty" (as opposed to abode of peace [daar-ul-islaam] or abode of war [daar-ul-kufr/harb], etc). Wallahu a'lam. |
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| Barr |
| 10/04/01 at 00:32:03 |
| Assalamu'alaikum :-) Here's some more input to the topic, that we discussed in e-mail, inshaAllah. Thought it'll be beneficial to others as well, inshaAllah. [color=blue]Barr: >Assalamu'alaikum > >Akhi, > >Thanx for your reply to my post abt the mafia thing :) Jazakallah. > >I didn't really know abt the background. But the views that I have heard >basically, did not put the context in place. But when I do read the sirah >books, I don't think they mentioned abt those countries that are hostile to >the Muslims, and hence the 3 responses. Oh well.. maybe I missed it. [/color] [color=green]Arsalan: Wa'alaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, Remember that at the time of the Prophet (pbuh), there were basically two large empires - the Persian and the Roman. Any part of the world which was not ruled by them was basically ruled by barbaric tribes which had no real influence in the world. The lands that were under the rule of the Persians and Romans would never allow the Muslims to go into them and spread da'wah. Those were just the tricks of the trade back then, so to speak. Freedom of religion was non-existant. Abyssinia was the only exception to this, and this was why the Prophet (pbuh) had asked his companions to migrate there. Even there however, although the king had no problem with Muslims living in the land and preaching openly, the ministers of the king kept making a big fuss about it. The times have changed considerably in the modern world. Most of the countries today have freedom of religion (including the USA). Most of the countries have peace treaties with the Muslim countries (the existence of a Muslim country's embassy in a non-Muslim land indicates a peace treaty between the two countries). Therefore, in today's world, where the door of da'wah is open, the 3 options do not need to be presented. However, if the door of da'wah is closed, then the door of offensive jihaad opens up. Even then, offensive jihaad requires the existence of a state, because only a state can declare offensive jihaad. The issue is quite complex, though not complicated :) And I do not consider myself an expert, or even mildly learned, in this area! But check out this (long) article on the Zaytuna web site. I think it has some stuff relevant to what we are talking about ... http://www.zaytuna.org/specials/muslims_living_in_non_muslim_lands.html I consider you to be more knowledgeable than myself in many things, so correct me if I have stated something which you know is wrong. And Allah certainly knows best. [/color] |
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