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| some comments on the evidences |
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| Abid |
| 10/07/01 at 17:10:47 |
| I got the following from a friend but I dont know the source of this article. Wassalam Four planes that were supposed to go to particular destinations did not go to those destinations. Three of the planes hit buildings. One of them crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. No ones knows what happened because EIGHT (8) indestructible black boxes (2 on each flight) were destroyed or reportedly damaged beyond possible restoration. Guess that is why they are referred to as indestructible. The crash in Pennsylvania did not even cause an explosion. Even if it had, the boxes are designed to withstand twice the maximum heat that can be generated by a jet fuel fire. Why didn't they show us the destroyed boxes? Do you think the guys who actually found them would talk to anyone? Or are they still alive to discuss what THEY saw with their own eyes? Paper passports of two (2) of the alleged hijackers survived just fine and were supposedly found in the burning ruble of the Pentagon crash, and another three blocks from the WTC.......three blocks. I would bet good money to anyone who thinks he could contrive a way to launch a passport a distance of three city blocks. We have been told that seven cell phone calls were made from the planes. Not ONE of the callers described the hijackers as Arabic, Saudi, Muslin, Iranian or anyone from the Middle East. Barbara Olson, writer, author, investigative reporter, famous commentator, attorney, and wife of the Solicitor General of the United States (Mr. Olson being George W@s lawyer who argued before the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore), did not describe the hijackers to him as being from the middle east. She was trained to be observant and mentally record details, yet there has been no report that she described the hijackers at all. Are we to believe she didn@t describe them, or did she describe them and we just aren@t being told? And if we aren@t being told, is it because her description doesn@t match the profile being fed to us? And are we to believe the Solicitor General forgot to ask her to DESCRIBE the criminals? I guess we are to accept that this is obviously an insignificant "fact" that the most high-powered-lawyer in the United States would understandably forget to ask. From almost the moment it happened it was dubbed an ATTACK ON AMERICA. I have videotape referring to it in that manner BEFORE George W made his speech in the Florida elementary school and went prancing across the country. It has NEVER been referred to as an Attack on the United States. In everything the federal government does from a legal perspective - writing and executing laws, prosecution -- everything is the based on an entity known as the United States. But on September 11, 2001 and every day since, the criminal acts were an Attack on America. Why are we suddenly America, not the United States? The Pentagon is NOT in the District of Columbia -- it is in Virginia. That is a FACT and it would take volumes to explain its significance. I will give you a hint. D.C. is the United States. Virginia and New York are American States. I am doing some research to find out, but I do not believe that the soil under the Pentagon was ever ceded by Virginia to the United States. I know for CERTAIN that the Arlington National Cemetery has NOT been ceded because a federal prosecution for larceny in the Cemetery was dismissed a few decades back by a federal district court because the federal government has no territorial jurisdiction (United States v. Penn, 48 F. 669 (E.D.Va., 1880). The State of Virginia prosecuted the felony. That area was first ceded to the federal government for the seat of government in 1791 along with land on the east side of the Potomac ceded by Maryland for the same purpose. Collectively the 10-mile-square was to be the seat of government as specified in 1.8.17 of the federal constitution. Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Legislature took it back (22 square miles) after Jefferson and Washington had a serious rift over civil rights issues in 1792 (making Virginians license carriages and wagons and carry identification on their person). The place where the Pentagon and the Cemetery are situated was the General Robert E. Lee Plantation and Estate. It was sold to the federal government after the Civil War. Had the planes hit a military installation that had been ceded (federal territory) or anything in DC (78 square miles of federal territory ceded by Maryland under 1.8.17 of the federal constitution in 1791) it would immediately be considered and ACT OF WAR, not terrorism. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hawaii was federal territory. That ATTACK was an ACT OF WAR. In this instance none of the planes hit anything in federal territory. The soil was American soil of two of the States which united to form the United States of America and to create the military government known as the United States that would protect America. Hence, Attack on America. BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms) agents have been walking around all over the ruble for two weeks. Why? More defense systems were disabled than can even be listed. And the media are NOT talking about THAT. When OKC was bombed, all we heard for more than a week was Osama Bin Laden, Osama Bin Laden. Then they pinned it on a guy that they said was driving a Ryder rental truck. They arrested McVeigh, according to news reports, 2 hours after the bombing, driving south on Interstate 45 toward Dallas......barefoot, no shirt, plates expired, no driver license, speeding, with a loaded .45 caliber automatic on the front seat. Just exactly what you would expect from someone who had just blown up an 8 story building with a fertilizer bomb. From that moment on, they called OKC a terrorist act. Without McVeigh they had no terrorist. We still, to this day, do not know what McVeigh was supposedly trying to influence the civilian population to do, or how he was supposedly trying to influence government policy.... By definition this was NOT a terrorist act (attached as PDF file). But the media spin is NOT based on FACT or LAW. See Attachment: PDF of definition of ACT OF TERRORISM from Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged 6th Edition -- adopted word for word by Congress codified at 18 USC § 3077. (You will need Acrobat Reader to download and read Black's Law Dictionary's legal definition of "terrorism." If you cannot download it, email Widowmaker and he will send it to you in email form). Do you really think that a few 120 pound middle-easterners overtook eight pilots, and their crew members and passengers, using razor-blade boxcutters? Do you really think a commercial pilot would give up his plane under threat from ANYONE with a boxcutter? How many hijackings have you ever heard of where the hijackers brought their own pilot? And four times in one day? And if you were going to do this deed, wouldn't you have a driver@s license in your own name, get your pilot's license in your own name, and leave your calling card everywhere you went, being rude and obnoxious so everyone would notice you? Explain to me how all of the defense systems were disabled? How did four planes, that were not on their computerized flight paths, fly around for more than an hour and a half without alarms going off all over the place? When their altitudes and positions CEASED TO BE VISIBLE ON RADAR, why weren't people (air traffic controllers) alarmed? As close as Boston and Dulles are to D.C., why would disappearing planes NOT be a cause for alarm? Why was it more than an hour AFTER the WTC crashes that fighters were scrambled? Was the Air Force sleeping at 7:45 AM on a Tuesday morning when the planes were supposedly hijacked, and deviated from their designated flight paths? Are we supposed to believe that when a transponder is turned OFF that no one is alerted that the plane is no longer being tracked by altitude; and that such a thing could occur to four planes almost simultaneously in the same geographical region, dangerously close to the seat of government, and NO ONE was alerting the media, the defense department, or anyone? Am I supposed to believe that no one even had a clue for an hour and a half from the time the first plane left its flight plan until smoke started coming out of a WTC tower? And when the first plane hit the tower, no one knew that three other planes were missing, and thought it prudent to call the media or government officials and tell them that three other planes were missing and that other locations might not be safe? /. I have talked to three pilots who have told me in their own words and understandings that what we are being told happened, could NOT possibly have happened. What I DO KNOW is that we are not hearing much TRUTH. And 110 story buildings do NOT collapse because a plane hits them. The second plane nearly missed the building, only going through the corner. Most of the fuel burned in an outside explosion. It collasped first, long before the tower that the plane completely entered. The refined Kerosene (a/k/a jet fuel)burned up fairly quickly. The stuff burning from that point on was desks, paper, plastics, carpet, etc. That fuel did not generate 2000-degree heat that would compromise 6 tubular steel columns in the center of the building designed SPECIFICALLY to keep the building from collapsing if hit by a Boeing 707 that, because it was older and less efficient, carried MORE fuel that the 757 and 767 that hit the towers. The structural engineer who designed the WTC Towers explained how the towers were designed to withstand a hit by a commercial jet -- and he did explain this to an international coalition on Terrorism in Frankfurt, Germany on Wednesday before the event. And 53 minutes after Tower 2 was hit the tower just imploded because it was on fire? Yeah right! I discussed this with a structural engineer who investigated a HOTEL in Los Angeles that he said was 30 stories and it burned from the ground floor up. It burned for nearly a week. The fire totally destroyed everything on all 30 floors. The estimated temperatures were 2200 degrees because of the natural gas and other fuel that was the catalyst for the fire. The concrete and infrastructure did not budge. It cost more than a million dollars to TEAR IT DOWN. The 30 floors above the first floor did NOT cave in on the first floor when the support structure go hot. And he reviewed the architecture on the WTC and said the type of steel and the type of construction for the WTC was double the strength of the LA hotel. Just like in OKC, people reported hearing multiple EXPLOSIONS before the WTC collapsed. I have video of people who were interviewed after the collapses and they said they heard a series of explosions (not floors collapsing) and then the buildings came down. The media dismissed it as exploding main gas lines. Gas mains on the 104th floor? Yeah right! We know that there would NOT be any safety mechanism in place that would have shut off gas flow throughout the buildings in the case of fire -- 53 minutes after a plane hit the building. Guess it was a big gas valve and it could not be vented to the outside air after it was shut off. If that is true, I have better safety measures in my own house than the WTC had. And why would they need safety mechanisms in place? It isn@t like anyone has ever tried to blow up those same two towers before. The strength of the WTC towers was in the 6 Tubular Steel Columns in the CENTER of the buildings, not the steel structure on the outside like most construction. The buildings were literally, according to the builder, designed NOT to pancake in the event of a Boeing 707 crashing into them. But they collapsed. It took 53 minutes for Tower 2 and 88 minutes for Tower 1 -- to simply COLLAPSE. Excerpts of his speech in Germany were posted to the internet five days before the planes hit the towers. My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don't think. They accept what they are told. They don't TEST what they are told. They are lazy, and naive to the point of being undeserving of liberty. And for that reason they will sacrifice liberty for what they perceive to be security. That is exactly, in fact, the genesis for the federal government. The States gave up their RIGHTS in exchange for perceived security. And as long as the talking-heads can convince the general public that the federal government can PROTECT THEM, the people will patriotically give up every right they have if it makes them feel safe -- while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA. |
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