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| Ariel Sharon, War Criminal |
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| Anonymous |
| 10/17/01 at 20:19:50 |
| Assalamalikum ACTION ALERT Suing Ariel Sharon: This petition will help the lawyers in Belgium who are suing Ariel Sharon, they need 100,000 signatures, they have some 82,373 Please let your friends and colleagues know about this petition. http://www.petitiononline.com/warcrime We endorse the 'A Petition for International Investigation Committee on Ariel Sharon's crimes against humanity' Petition to Mrs. Mary Robinson, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights. |
| Re: Ariel Sharon, War Criminal |
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| Mona |
| 10/18/01 at 08:47:12 |
| assalamu alaikum, If someone checked the site recently, they'll find that there are in excess of 100,000 signatures there. some of the signatures are just first name, a 'kunya' (i.e. abu-something, oum-something), or some alias. I've gotten the email many many times and the number of required signatures has changed to 1,000,000 from the original 100,000. My question is do online petitions really work? I honestly doubt their efficacy. I don't think they are reliable at all. What do others think? Wassalam |
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| M.F. |
| 10/18/01 at 09:48:27 |
| I
don't really think petitions work either. The most they can do is
show that there are people with a certain opinion, but they're so
inaccurate. Anyone can sign their name more than once. There was a petition against airstrikes in Afghanistan. That certainly hasn't worked. But sometimes signing a petition is all you can do. |
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| Mystic |
| 10/18/01 at 10:13:20 |
| [slm] This whole idea of online "activism" is sometimes a post modern way of feeling better about contributing positively to society by the convenience of a "button click"...(this is the cynic in me talking ;) ) But it does truly depend on the sponsoring organization and what the intent is behind it....So checking out the original site sometimes helps clarify whether its even worth your "button click" or not.... jus' my two cents...:-) Maliha BTW: do you think the "powers that be" don't know that most of the world's population would like to see Sharon tried for his atrocities? Does power truly lie in the "hands of the people", even in the most "democratic" of states? |
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| Kashif |
| 10/18/01 at 10:18:12 |
| assalaamu alaikum [quote]This whole idea of online "activism" is sometimes a post modern way of feeling better about contributing positively to society by the convenience of a "button click"...(this is the cynic in me talking ;) )[/quote] Masha'allah quite perceptive. I've never had a good opinion of online petitions and you very nicely put that into words. [quote]But it does truly depend on the sponsoring organization and what the intent is behind it....So checking out the original site sometimes helps clarify whether its even worth your "button click" or not....jus' my two cents...:-)[/quote] What i've always wondered is how is the petition delivered? Is it printed out and delivered? Or is it e-mailed to the recipient? If its the latter, they don't even have to bother putting the thing thru a shredder they can simply press the 'delete' key. But then again, if they were downloading a millions signatures across a 56k connection it'd be pretty torturous waiting for it to come! Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| NewJehad |
| 10/20/01 at 09:15:53 |
| Why don't the Muslim organisations that complain about the towers
ask the American government to set up a on line petition to stop bin ladin
instead of exterminating our brothers in Afghanistan by starvation caused
by closing of borders and bombs? Why didnt Bush decided to hold confrences instead of what he did to Iraq and Afghanistan? Now some Muslims in the US stand shoulder to shoulder with people who have made their haterid of Allah and his deen clear many times over, against thier brothers in other lands, on a Issue that was clearly the work of the CIA and mossad. Its time to make the choose. When you lot shout benfit to justify your kufr of siding with the kaffar. remember it is not benefit, but harm, as the harm that it courses your brothers who are oppressed by your kaffar country men is not measurable. |
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| se7en |
| 10/22/01 at 08:59:04 |
| as salaamu
alaykum, [quote] Now some Muslims in the US stand shoulder to shoulder with people who have made their haterid of Allah and his deen clear many times over, against thier brothers in other lands, on a Issue that was clearly the work of the CIA and mossad. so where will these people stand when Muslims really hit back at the US for all the evil it is doing against us? Its time to make the choose. When you lot shout benfit to justify your kufr of siding with the kaffar. remember it is not benefit, but harm, as the harm that it courses your brothers who are oppressed by your kaffar country men is not measurable. [/quote] Brother Jehad, what are you talking about? What Muslims in the US are standing shoulder to shoulder with the kuffar? Do you think *any* Muslim would support the killing of innocent Muslims? |
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| NewJehad |
| 10/22/01 at 13:10:35 |
| slm Sister se7en you must have seen in the USA what I saw in London? I saw so-called Muslim leaders acting as yes men while standing next to the dog Bush the son of the dog Bush. This evil dog who is busying himself slaughtering our brothers in Afghanistan, And is sending more weapons to Israel so as to keep the Muslim sisters who are being sold from one Israeli brothel to another in their present situation. Remember what the nation he rules has done and is doing? How do you think a Muslim father In Iraq who has watched most of his kids starve to death because the united shatans of America does no allow baby milk in? How do you think a father feels when his young daughter needs a sazerium operation and he and his son-in-law have to hold his screaming daughter down while a surgeon cuts her open with no painkillers because the united Shatans of America say that they can be used in bombs. And how do you think these people feel when they see so called Muslim leaders in the USA standing next to the dog responsible nodding their heads as he speaks? Lets not kid our selves, we all know America is a capitalist nation. Only motivation in capitalism is benefit. The reason why they are attacking Afghanistan is to fight Islam, it has nothing to do with terrorism. Because if it was the US will be busy bombing the world greatest ever terrorist, her self. There is only one kind of “Muslim” the US does not consider terrorist, that is the ones who only believe in the parts of Islam that the US agrees with. And I personally think that even these people are not safe from the evil of the US, as the Bosnian Muslims had left all of Islam and as soon as their kaffar countrymen gained the opportunity, they exterminated them. As soon as the US gets tired of using pet Muslims for camera shots, it will become time for Muslims of America to be reminded of what happened in Bosnia. “THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WILL NEVER BE PLEASED WITH YOU UNTIL YOU FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION” When Israel called the Mujaheedin fighting it in Shebra and shatilah terroroist. Strait after the UN removed the Mujaheedeen from Shebra and shatilah, the Isrealis came in and killed every one. It took them 3 days to do it and they did it in peace as all the Mujahideen were removed. |
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| BroHanif |
| 10/22/01 at 19:15:23 |
| [quote]It took them 3 days to do it and they did it in peace as
all the Mujahideen were removed.[/quote] Yes and even worse was that big fat ape, Sharon the dajjallon killed 2,750 Palestininas at the camps. The UN qualified this massacre as genocide, and now the dajjaloon is in power. So who is the terrorist now, Bin Laden or Mr Sharon. Or who is the greater fool, the one who is the fool, or the one who follows the fool. And then they have the nerve to set up the Hague and the War cimes tribunal what a farce. When Muslims cone onto the true deen only then will the help of Allah come, I for one do not see how we can say one thing and the forces in power let our brothers and sisters be killed in Afghanistan. If we can not say anything then at least consider it a vice in our hearts and that is the lowest form of faith. |
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| Marcie |
| 10/23/01 at 15:46:55 |
| As salamu alaykum [quote]What Muslims in the US are standing shoulder to shoulder with the kuffar? Do you think *any* Muslim would support the killing of innocent Muslims? [/quote] This is an email that I received from AMC. AMC Supports President Bush’s Campaign Against Terrorism (Washington DC, 10/08/2001) The American Muslim Council supports our government’s action against world terrorism and reaffirms its condemnation of the terrorist attacks of September 11th against our country. The AMC appreciates the President’s leadership in reaffirming that this is a war against terrorism and not against the Afghan people, Muslims or Islam. The AMC commends our President for his statement that our military campaign will take measures to protect the civilian population of Afghanistan. The AMC is particularly grateful for the President’s compassion and humanitarian efforts for the Afghani people along with other initiatives, and fully supports his efforts to deal with the causes of terrorism. “We support our brave men and women who are fighting to protect us from terrorism,” said Aly Abuzaakouk, executive director of AMC. I don't know if they have changed their opinion since then. As salamu alaykum Marcie |
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| BroHanif |
| 10/23/01 at 17:26:57 |
| [quote]and fully supports his efforts to deal with the causes of terrorism[/quote] What kind of Muslim would support the bobming of an innocent hospital ? The AMC should read the hadith in what it means protecting thy neighbour, and what consitiute an Islamic Sharia Court. If these people are your representatives in the US of A, then the Ummah is in a mess. It is true that Allah guides only to whom Allah pleases. My only wish to Allah is that I die as a muslim. Even if it means living as a shepard and living in a mud hut...man times are scary... I've seen people in the past few weeks saying stuff against Sharia, sadly those in power or people with authority. |
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