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| flyboy_nz |
| 10/18/01 at 20:42:38 |
| asalaamu alaikum, its Friday today, Alhamdulillah!:) I've just come back from Juma at Uni and our khatib spoke about the scientific advantage of the halal slaughter method. He spoke about how the blood acts as a buffer and does not allow the pH of the meat to reduce, which allows the proliferation of all sorts of nasty bacteria in the dead animal...whereas halal killed animals have the blood drained, therefore the pH is allowed to go down as lactic acid is produced, which prevents the growth of nasty bacteria and the meat therefore keeps longer compared to the unslaughtered animal. He also talked about the unhealthy aspects of pork, namely the uric acid in the meat and why that causes disease and even death (he read out a scientific article about a disease called pigbel). Has anyone seen any articles on the net on benefits of halal slaughtering and why pork is not a healthy meat to eat? I'd like some more scientific background info on this. wasalaam, Ahmed |
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| bhaloo |
| 10/18/01 at 22:51:07 |
| slm Regarding pigs: Herbivorous animals such as cattle and sheep eat of clean fresh fodder and cereals, whereas the pig will eat waste animal products including offal and carrion and even human flesh. Worms and Parasites: As transferred from pig to man:- Trichina Worms, Tapeworms (taenia Solium), Roundworms, Hookworms, Faciolopsis Buski, Paragonimius, Clonorchis Sinosis, Erysipelothrix Rhusiophathiae. The above worms and parasites are responsible for many diseases, many of them are contagious, others are fatal. These include Anaemia, inflammation of the bowels, Pneumonia and serious diseases of the liver and chest region. Uric Acid: Uric Acid (known cause of heart disease and rheumatism) has an approximately 20% extraction rate from the kidneys of the pig. Herbivorous animals have an 80% extraction rate. Hence, relative to other animals, a high concentration of Uric Acid is found in Pork. Fatty Acids: Pork Fat is very harmful to the body, being difficult to digest and efficiently convert to energy. Pork Fat is absorbed by the body and consequently accumulates in human tissue as animal fat. Herbivorous animal fat is broken down by the body within the bloodstream resynthesising the fat into a readily available energy source. |
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| Moe |
| 10/19/01 at 08:20:12 |
| Why Islamic Slaughter is better? [Scientific reason] Al Shaddad Bin Aous has quoted this tradition of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H.),"God calls for mercy in everything, so be merciful when you kill and when you slaughter, sharpen your blade torelieve its pain". Many allegations have been made that Islamic slaughter is not humane to animals. However, Professor Chultz and his colleague Dr. Hazim of the Hanover University, Germany, proved through an experiment, using an electroencephalograph (EEG) and electrocardiogram (ECG) that Islamic slaughter is THE humane method of slaughter* and captive bolt stunning, practiced by the Western method, causes severe pain to the animal. The results surprised many. Experimental Details: 1. Several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all animals, touching the surface of the brain. 2. The animals were allowed to recover for several weeks. 3. Some animals were slaughtered by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck cutting the jugular veins and carotid Arteries of both sides; as also the trachea and esophagus Halal Method. 4. Some animals were stunned using a captive bolt pistol humane slaughter by the western method. 5. During the experiment, EEG and ECG were recorded on all animals to record the condition of the brain and heart during the course of slaughter and stunning. Results and Discussion: A. Halal Method 1. The first three seconds from the time of Islamic slaughter as recorded on the EEG did not show any change from the graph before slaughter, thus indicating that the animal did not feel any pain during or immediately after the incision. 2. For the following 3 seconds, the EEG recorded a condition of deep sleep - unconsciousness. This is due to a large quantity of blood gushing out from the body. 3. After the above-mentioned 6 seconds, the EEG recorded zero level, showing no feeling of pain at all. 4. As the brain message (EEG) dropped to zero level, the heart was still pounding and the body convulsing vigorously (a reflex action of the spinal cord) driving maximum blood from the body: resulting in hygienic meat for the consumer. B. Western method by C.B.P. Stunning 1. The animals were apparently unconscious soon after stunning. 2. EEG showed severe pain immediately after stunning. 3. The hearts of the animal stunned by C.B.P. stopped beating earlier as compared to those of the animals slaughtered according to the Halal method resulting in the retention of more blood in the meat. This in turn is unhygienic for the consumer. Abdul Hafeez Lab. Administrator Szabist |
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| flyboy_nz |
| 10/20/01 at 06:47:01 |
| [slm] wow this is amazing info! I had no idea about the experimental stuff! have you got a link to where you got the info from Br Moe? thank you Br. Arshad, it really makes you wonder why they like it so much...shouldn't the health authorities call for a reduction in consumption or something? Instead they only say eat less red meat and more veges):( |
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| Haseeba |
| 10/22/01 at 14:42:21 |
| i got this email a long time ago and saved it...glad i finally found a use!! but is sooo GROSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! Very informative article, worth filing for future reference. (Not for those with faint stomachs though!) WHY PORK IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM? A lot of people misconstrue Islam's forbiddance of pork consumption as mere heresay but it's actually based on real medical facts as illustrated below. The following was discovered many centuries ago upon the dawn of Islam but no logical explanation was ever offered on the rule...until now. If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will SEE Worms crawl out of it. A message from the Health Corporation of Singapore about the Bad effects of pork consumption. Pig's bodies contain MANY TOXINS, WORMS and LATENT DISEASES. Although some of these infestations are harbored in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far MORE PREDISPOSED to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because PIGS like to SCAVENGE and will eat ANY kind of food, INCLUDING dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, reta (including their own), garbage, and other pigs. INFLUENZA (flu) is one of the MOST famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is harbored in the LUNGS of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and humans in the cooler months. Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so THOSE who EAT pork sausage tend to SUFFER MORE during EPIDEMICS of INFLUENZA. Pig meat contains EXCESSIVE quantities of HISTAMINE and IMIDAZOLE compounds, which can lead to ITCHING and INFLAMMATION; GROWTH HORMONE which PROMOTES INFLAMMATION and growth; sulfur containing mesenchymal mucus which leads to SWELLING and deposits of MUCUS in tendons and cartilage, resulting in ARTHRITIS, RHEUMATISM, etc. Sulfur helps cause FIRM human tendons and ligaments to be replaced by the pig's soft mesenchymal tissues, and degeneration of human cartilage. Eating pork can also lead to GALLSTONES and OBESITY, probably due to its HIGH CHOLESTEROL and SATURATED FAT content. The pig is the MAIN CARRIER of the TAENIA SOLIUM WORM, which is found in its flesh. These tapeworms are found in human intestines with greater frequency in nations where pigs are eaten. This type of tapeworm can pass through the intestines and affect many other organs, and is incurable once it reaches beyond a certain stage. One in six people in the US and Canada has TRICHINOSIS from eating trichina worms, which are found in pork. Many people have NO SYMPTOMS to warn them of this, and when they do, they resemble symptoms of many other illnesses. These worms are NOT noticed during meat inspections. |
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| Kashif |
| 10/22/01 at 15:09:37 |
| [quote]If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will SEE Worms crawl out of it.[/quote] assalaamu alaikum That sounds weird. If that were even partially true no one would eat pork. The bottom line is we don't eat pork because thus has Allah commanded us. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| NewJehad |
| 10/25/01 at 13:26:04 |
| Hay if we sloughtered a animal in the name of al lat or al uzza. It would be harram. but the physically it will be the same as hallal meat. It is not healthness that makes hallal Hallal, cause the same healthness exists when the meat is killed in the name of a phalic symbol. Any way. have you been to some of these hallal butchers,, you can tell just by looking at them that they pick their nose. and the place is in a mess. you might see a really clean suppermarket near by. with really clean meat. it might be the case here that for this life the harram meat is better for you then the hallal. but when it comes to the next life the Hallal meat is the only choice if meat has to be on the menu. else become a vegiterian. |
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| flyboy_nz |
| 10/25/01 at 15:33:40 |
| [slm] [quote]you can tell just by looking at them that they pick their nose. and the place is in a mess. [\quote] [quote]the harram meat is better for you then the hallal. [/quote] now wait a minute bro, the main physical difference between halal and non-halal meat today is the method of slaughter....let me ask you if you've been to a slaughter house before? The non-halal killed animal is killed (apparently humanely, tho Br Moe has reminded us that it is not) with a metal bolt that pierces the skull and goes into the brain....but this doesn't allow the blood to drain and therefore the meat is physically less healthy. Who are you to judge your muslim brothers who sell halal meat anyway bro? you're telling me you'd prefer to buy non-halal meat from the kafir, instead of your fellow muslim? Sure the supermarket could be clean, but who's to say the workers there don't pick their nose and who's to say that there has been no contact with the pork meat that is sold side by side. If the meat quality is poor anyway, then there is no way that a clean environment will improve it in any way- the saying goes: Garbage in, Garbage out. Supermarkets also use special lighting in the meat cabinets to make the meat look more red...i'd put my trust in my bro at the halal butchers over the supermarket any day! |
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| Kathy |
| 10/26/01 at 08:02:26 |
| slm I beleive there is a difference between halal and zabhia. I understand Jehads point. Just last week I decided that the conditions of our meat market are way too gross- in cleanliness, handling and Islamic manners to go there. Insha Allah i will travel a couple of hours to go get zabhia meat else where. Maybe a trip to Albania? |
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| NewJehad |
| 10/26/01 at 10:39:47 |
| Just wait one moment, and read what i wrote properly.. i was saying, DONT EAT HARRAM MEAT, AND EAT HALLAL MEAT. I think it was clear. What i was trying to show is that it is not cleanlyness or health that makes hallal hallal. a lot of places slit the through for the above mentioned health reasons, but people sliting it are often athists etc. the meat is harram then. even though it may be good for you. |
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