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War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
BrKhalid
11/05/01 at 04:22:54
War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'

UK Muslims who aim to fight against British forces in Afghanistan are breaking Islamic law, says Professor Muhammad Abdel Haleem, director of the Centre for Islamic Studies at SOAS, London University.


[color=blue]Is a Muslim citizen or resident of this country under obligation by Islamic law to fight in Afghanistan, even against the British Army?

Is it indeed admissible in Islamic law for a British Muslim to fight against the British Army in Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world?

The answer to both these questions is a categorical "no".

This is not a matter of opinion or deduction, but is based on explicit statements in the Koran and Hadith (the Traditions of the Prophet Muhammad), both of which are the supreme sources of Islamic law.

Covenants and treaties

In chapter eight, verse 72, the Koran states, regarding Muslim obligations to other Muslims in another country: "If they seek your help against religious persecution, it is your duty to help them, except against a people between whom and yourselves there is a covenant."

Faithfulness to treaties, contracts or agreements is a duty on Muslims which is given paramount importance in Islam, as expressed in the Koran, chapter five, verse one and chapter 16, verses 91 and 92 to give but two examples.

There is also a Tradition of the Prophet that says: "Muslims are bound by the conditions they accept" and another, given in the Sahih of Muslim, that Muhammad [pbuh] told a group of Muslims to fulfil an agreement they had made with unbelievers.

Undertaking

Muslims who come to the United Kingdom to live or take citizenship are bound by an undertaking - expressed or implied - to respect the law of the country. They certainly undertake not to fight against this country.

No Muslim here should feel there is a clash of loyalty in this matter, since the Koran and Hadith are categorical that a Muslim should abide by the undertakings involved in living here that follows from citizenship or residence.

If any Muslim from this country still feels that he has to fight in Afghanistan, and even against the British Army, he is bound by Islamic law first to declare that he is quit of the undertaking that follows from citizenship or residence here.

It means he would have to give up his citizenship or permit to live in this country. Then he may feel free to proceed as he so wishes. [/color]

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1634000/1634517.stm[/url]
Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
Kashif
11/05/01 at 17:02:46
No doubt this opinion is in sync with the opinions of those who pay his salary.

There is no doubt that we are bound - even by Islamic law - to obey the law of the land, but what the Professor neglects to mention is the important principle that there is no obedience to the creation when it involves disobedience to the creator. Unity with Muslims and love for them are an integral part of our faith, and we should not allow ourselves to be fooled into thinking otherwise.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
NewJehad
11/05/01 at 13:04:18
Who remembers the gulf war and the arguments we had? the people who pay the salaries of the ulimah in suadi  arabi, syria and egypt dictated fatwahs. some people used to almost worship some of these ulimah before the fatwas were given. Muslims were at a dilema whether to except these fatwas or not. these fatwas were produced by the orders of the kufr regimes in Muslim lands. and even then it was clear to most people that these fatwas were worthless. today we have fatwas being produced by the orders of kufr regimes in the countries of the kaffar and still some people wounder if they are worth any thing?
Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
BroHanif
11/05/01 at 13:05:34
All the more reason, of we should be careful of whom we take our religion from....

Man that makes me sick.
Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
mujaahid
11/06/01 at 07:24:30
Assalaamu-alaikum

That made me so angry! So that "scholar" is basically saying its ok for Germans, Italians, Americans, Brits etc to go to Afghanistan to fight and kill the afghan muslims but its NOT OK for British muslims to go to Afghanistan to defend these muslims? Who is he trying to fool? So how much IS tony blair paying him? How DARE he tell us to sit back and do nothing to help the muslims who are being slaughtered.

Its disgraceful that muslims in high places make such statements. What is he after? A few cheap and nastey "nice" comments from his jolly british neighbours while he goes round to thier for an english cuppa? And what about Allah, and his commands? Dont we strive to please Allah? Or is getting a few nice comments about loyalty all he lives for?

Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
BrKhalid
11/06/01 at 08:02:02
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

[quote]No doubt this opinion is in sync with the opinions of those who pay his salary[/quote]

Allah knows best but personally I don't think the Professor is stating an opinion here but is merely stating facts.

However I do see how his statement could be misconstrued.

Oh well I guess only the Professor and Allah knows what he really meant.
Re: War View: 'UK Muslims must obey UK law'
Kashif
11/06/01 at 17:14:54
assalaamu alaikum

He was stating the facts.. only selectively.
NS


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