Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board
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| Anonymous |
| 11/21/01 at 01:57:50 |
| Asalaam alaikum, Another question: In USA, when two Muslims get married in the mosque, what do they have to do to make it a legal marriage in the US? Thanks again. |
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| haleema |
| 11/21/01 at 05:31:06 |
| salam i think you have to register your marriage at a register office, so that it is recognised by the usa law,but it is best to check up on these things at your local register office. sorry if i was not of any help salam alaykum |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/21/01 at 05:38:17 |
| Why would any one want to make it legal? |
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| Kashif |
| 11/21/01 at 10:17:34 |
| assalaamu alaikum For obvious reasons, NJ: including inheritance issues, tax matters (in the UK anyway). Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| sis_malak |
| 11/21/01 at 10:29:56 |
| Why wouldn't we want it to be legal? Here in the US (I don't know where you are from), there are such reasons as taxes, citizenship (he is not a citizen and I am), inheritance, insurance, etc.... |
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| se7en |
| 11/21/01 at 13:00:55 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah, As others have said, it is important to make your marriage legal, but especially so if you are a sister. In order to have *any* legal standing before the law as a man's wife, your marriage has to be acknowledged by the state. Get a marriage license. Seriously. Many sisters find themselves in pretty terrible situations when they do not have one. In our community, the imam has a special form for the couple to fill out, so that along with the nikaah they get the license. If your imam does not/did not do this, you can go to the clerk's office on your own and get it done. [url=http://marriage.about.com/library/bllic.htm]Here[/url] is some info on marriage license laws. You can also do a search on yahoo with "getting your marriage license <state that you live in>". You should find some easy step by step instructions and the locations you can go to to apply. Hope that's of help inshaAllah. :) wasalaaamu alaykum. ps -- If you have a contract, I would suggest getting it notarized as well :) |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/21/01 at 13:44:00 |
| i know a lot of reasons why it wont,, like DSS, two single people get more money then one married couple. And some tax too, so they wont get charged on combined income. a friend of mine didnt get his done. not sure why. |
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| Anik |
| 11/21/01 at 13:44:04 |
| asalaamu alaikum, I'll speak on a Canadian perspective (probably similar) you cannot perform the marriage here Islamically without a lisence... those who are certified to do so (imams, priests, etc.) have a legal responsibility. Then again, they don't HAVE to listen to it and can perform the Nikkah, write up a contract, and then the marriage for reasons in Islam should be complete. So it does happen if you find a willing person, and of course the 2 witnesses, outside of kaffir law. In fact, as i understand it it is not even completely essential that a moulana does this, but any trustworthy muslim (someone please double check this). Then again, as Sister Seven said, a legal state-recognized marriage ends up helping the sister and protecting her many times... This non-state-recognized marriage is good for a few things: a secret marriage (ie. don't want to tell the state)in terms of having no legal state record, but keep an Islamic record marrrying a wife after the first one marrying under age marrying within the family marrying but avoiding the marriage lisence fees you can, as i understand, get your nikkah performed, write up a contract, and then a while later apply for a marriage lisence sometimes having a marriage recognized by law isn't always the best in terms of your situation, but it definitley more secure if ever inheritance is not explicitly expressed, issues of divorce, taxbreaks, child custody, etc. come up. As well, it is Sunnah to tell everyone. whoops, i blabbed on like always. :) asalaamu alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| tq |
| 11/21/01 at 14:29:32 |
| Asslamo elikuim “marrying within the family “ Is marriage between cousins not recognized by states? Because I know quite few people (three of my cousins too) who are married to their cousins and are living in USA. Wasalam tq |
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| Kathy |
| 11/21/01 at 20:39:21 |
[quote]i know a lot of reasons why it wont,, like DSS, two single people get more money then one married couple. [/quote] just what we need- a Muslim committing Fraud.... |
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| Anik |
| 11/22/01 at 00:10:36 |
| asalaamu alaikum [quote] “marrying within the family “ [/quote] i believe the law in most states is that marriage is allowed only after the relation is farther than second cousins. of course, if they don't know, they can't do anything. btw getting Canada to accept a foreign marriage by immigration is ridiculous- you have to show pictures of your marriage and the celebration reception (seriously) and say where you went for honeymoons and show proof by picture and stuff. I guess that's to stop immigration-only marriages. the immigration form is so detailed. asalaamu alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| Kashif |
| 11/22/01 at 04:33:15 |
| assalaamu alaikum Whats the difference between first cousins and second cousins?? Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| Lisha |
| 11/22/01 at 05:17:16 |
| [quote]Whats the difference between first cousins and second cousins?[/quote] as-salaamu alaikum, ur 1st cousin is ur parents real niece/nephew where as ur 2nd cousin is ur parents 1st cousine i.e: say ur mum has a bro who has a daughter, she'd be ur 1st cousine, if this girl had a baby. the baby would be ur 2nd cousine(if ur an asian u may say she is r niece/nephew)!!! ok my explanation may not make sence, but i hope it did;) take care |
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| Anik |
| 11/22/01 at 05:45:58 |
| asalaamu alaikum, actually that is arguable i've heard depending on what geneological system you wan tot follow (sorry to nitpick). i definitley know that 2nd cousins don't always have to be in a different generation than you, i believe that children of your parents cousins are also 2nd cousins... cousins of cousins.... third cousin is cousin of cousin of cousin... :o ma it's all too confusing! asalaamu alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| sis_malak |
| 11/23/01 at 04:56:45 |
| asalaam alaikum, Actually, a second cousin is the cousin of your parents. The children of your cousins are your first cousins-once removed. Your second cousin's children are your second cousins-once removed. And your third cousin would be the cousin of a grandparent. *I know this only because my uncle studied our family geneology and informed me of this info. Wasalaam Malak |
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| Anik |
| 11/23/01 at 06:16:54 |
| asalaamu alaikum, gee thanks, that's fun, cause i knew there were different structures for geneology, but with the confidence that you have, I'm probably wrong :). asalaamu alaikum, Jazak Allahu Khairun for the info. abdullah,. |
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| Mystic |
| 11/28/01 at 11:09:42 |
| [slm] Understanding the laws of the land are imperative...as well, as the spiritual laws. the key is balancing both. In a marriage situation, we need to do it both ways in order to make sure its legal on All levels. Wa Allahu A'alam. [wlm] |
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