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| A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| eleanor |
| 11/22/01 at 06:50:15 |
| Bismillah slm Here's a couple of things that I would like to know about Ramadan 1) the time in the morning when the fast begins - is this the Fajr time or the Shorok time? I have heard different accounts 2) what are the duas you need to say when starting the fast and when breaking the fast. It would be great if someone could post them in Arabic, arabic transliteration and english 3) can you pray the Ramadan prayers (the 20 rakats) with the TV? I mean with the live broadcast from Mekkah? 4) if a woman has fasted all day and half an hour before iftar she gets her period, is the fast invalid? 5) do days missed through menstruation have to be made up 6) do days missed through illness have to be made up 7) is there any time when a missed day's fasting does *not* have to be made up I think that's all but if anything else comes to mind I'll post it Insha Allah Jazak Allah in advance wasalaam eleanor ps: Insha Allah this will be a rewarding and fruitful Ramadan for us all |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Arsalan |
| 11/22/01 at 15:11:35 |
| [quote]1) the time in the morning when the fast begins - is this the Fajr time or the Shorok time? I have heard different accounts[/quote]It's fajr time. (Shurooq is when the entire disk of the sun has risen above the horizon. It usually occurs after an hour or so after fajr.) [quote]2) what are the duas you need to say when starting the fast and when breaking the fast. It would be great if someone could post them in Arabic, arabic transliteration and english[/quote]I don't know of any du'aa that the Prophet [saw] used to say when beginning his fast. Wallahu a'lam. [quote]3) can you pray the Ramadan prayers (the 20 rakats) with the TV? I mean with the live broadcast from Mekkah?[/quote]No. But you can pray by yourself, holding the Qur'an in your hands if you need to (if you can read Arabic, or you have a copy of the Qur'an *transliterated*). The rest of the questions are out of my realm of knowledge :) But I think the answers for all of those can be found [url=http://65.193.50.117/books/seyam/english.html]here[/url]. Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| se7en |
| 11/22/01 at 16:01:25 |
| as salaamu alaykum, [quote]4) if a woman has fasted all day and half an hour before iftar she gets her period, is the fast invalid?[/quote] Yes. [quote]5) do days missed through menstruation have to be made up[/quote] Yes. But you can "double up" on intentions. For example, you can fast on Monday or Thursday, a day that's good to fast, and have the dual intention of fasting on a good day, *and* making up your missed fast. Cool huh :) [quote]6) do days missed through illness have to be made up[/quote] Yes. Unless the person is terminally ill or unable to fast for some other reason. Then the person should feed a poor person for each day they missed. This is called fidyah, I'm told :) [quote]7) is there any time when a missed day's fasting does *not* have to be made up[/quote] Every fast has to be made up in some way - either by fasting on another day, or feeding a poor person. You don't get away with it :) Hope that's of help inshaAllah. :) If anything here sounds shady, just lemme know and I'll look it up inshaAllah. wAllahu a'lam. wasalaamu alaykum. |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| eleanor |
| 11/27/01 at 12:18:15 |
| slm Jazak Allah Khayrun to both of you! I knew I could rely on you to have the answers for me. You're in my duas both of you, Insha Allah. wasalaam eleanor |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Hania |
| 11/27/01 at 15:36:09 |
| slm Can I just check something with you guys. I've been doing tarawee at home but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I'm doing two rakats, 10 times. That makes twenty. But before I do each rakat I say: I intend to pray two rakats for Allah.... Is that okay or should I be saying something different? |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Arsalan |
| 11/27/01 at 15:40:29 |
| [slm] Hania, you dont have to *say* anything. Intention is a state of the heart, and doesn't need to be pronounced. Some scholars actually consider it a bid'ah [innovation in Deen] to pronounce the niyyah [intention] - wallahu a'lam. You just need to know in your heart what you are doing and why are you doing it (or for whom are you doing it). In this case, you know that you are praying a total of 20 rak'ahs of taraweeh prayers with 5 segments of 2 rak'ahs. You are making this prayer for the sake of Allah (swt), of course. That would be enough insha Allah :) I must say that your resolve to pray 20 rak'ahs at home by yourself is very commendable, masha Allah. Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Hania |
| 11/27/01 at 15:55:24<+td> |
| slm ahhhhh thank you Bro Arsalan :) I thought I was doing something wrong and got worried. But you've made it clear to me. |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Arsalan |
| 11/28/01 at 01:41:59 |
| [slm] I said above in my post in response to Hania's question: [quote] you know that you are praying a total of 20 rak'ahs of taraweeh prayers with 5 segments of 2 rak'ahs. [/quote]Errr ... that should have said "10 segments of 2 rak'ahs." Sorry :) |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| se7en |
| 11/28/01 at 02:46:52 |
| [quote]You're in my duas [/quote] Jazaki Allahu khayran sis :) |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| amal |
| 11/28/01 at 11:12:58 |
| slm, Eleanor, one thing that i found helpfull regarding what should be done and not in these cases is consult a good fiqh book in addition to asking knowledgable brothers and sisters. A book like Fiqh Al-Sunnah,in my view, is a must have for a muslim as it explains most issues in the sharee'ah both at the ibaadaat(worship) and mu'aamalaat(social interactions) level.It's in 3 volumes. If you can get it , believe me, will save you a lot of worrying.Besides on issues of difference among the ulema the author offers the stands of the four schools of thought and sometimes verdicts from the sahabah and taabe'een. Here's a link to the first volume (it's divided into four chapters: purification,prayers,zakah and fasting,funerals and dhikr, and finally hajj and umrah): http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/ Hope it helps...did i miss my share of du'a? :) |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| eleanor |
| 11/28/01 at 14:38:49 |
| slm [quote] Hope it helps...did i miss my share of du'a? :) [/quote] It helps immensely, Jazakallah! you may not believe it but in every dua I include "all my brothers and sisters around the world who post in the Madina Board" or words to that effect. So you're in for a special mention, but you're always in there. By the way, is there anything on converts having duas answered? It's just that I get a really eerie feeling when I realise that practically *everything* I make dua for is answered! Is this the same for everyone? It really makes me amazed and in awe of Allah. And really happy that I became Muslim. I want to climb onto my roof and shout "Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah, Alhamdullilah!!!" But the neighbours would probably ring the polizei and I'd be carted off to a mental home. <sigh> wasalaam eleanor |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| amal |
| 11/29/01 at 00:02:47 |
| slm, Jazaki Allahu kheyran ya ukhti :) [quote] It's just that I get a really eerie feeling when I realise that practically *everything* I make dua for is answered! [/quote] Masha'Allah.May Allah(swt)increase His blessing on you.This makes me even more intent on receiving your du'as :) But i know what you mean. Right before Ramadan i had one major du'a answered,alhamdulillah.Allah is indeed most mercifull and kind. Just tonight i heard an amazing story at the taraweeh prayers about something relating to this topic. I'll post it insha'Allah when i get more time. In the mean time, i was thinking that maybe we should start a thread about answered du'as...It never fails to inspire people...Also there's this ayah in the Qur'an where people are commanded to speak about the blessings that Allah(swt) has bestowed on them...so it can be a means of thanking our Lord and also a way of motivating each other to get closer to Allah(swt)...what do you guys think? |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| abc |
| 11/29/01 at 02:40:31 |
| Assalamalaikum wa rahmatullah Isn't it just great when a dua is fulfilled! Remember the sincere dua of a muslim is never unanswered, either he gets what he asked for, or some calamity/bad thing is averted in lieu of it or the dua is stored with Allah and will be granted in the Hereafter. Amazing Subhanallah. When any persons supplication is answered, he should thank Allah in the following words : Alhamdulillahil ladhi bi izzatihi wa jalaalihi tutimus saalihaat Rough translation: All praise is to Allah by whose power and glory all good things are realized. wassalam alaikum |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Anonymous |
| 12/02/01 at 18:24:19 |
| Salam In another thread seven answered that if a woman has fasted all day and half an hour before iftar she gets her period, then the fast is invalid. Can someone plz confirm if this is right. Because the way ive heard it is that if you get your period before 12 midday then your fast is invalid, but if you get ure period after 12 midday then ure fast is still valid and you dont break it! Plz show evidence if you can seven? Jazakallah wasalam |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Marcie |
| 12/02/01 at 21:23:44 |
| As salamu alaykum Sister Anon, Could you please show evidence for what you have been taught? In all of my years as a Muslim I have never once heard this. My one question would be: How can you fast if you are not able to pray? The two go hand in hand. Just curious. I just looked your question up in Fiqh us-Sunnah "The menses and post-childbirth bleeding: Even if such bleeding begins just before sunset, the fast of the day is rendered void and the day must be made up. There is a consesus of scholars on this point." As salamu alaykum Marcie |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| eleanor |
| 12/03/01 at 06:25:39 |
| slm this is the reason I asked this question, because a sister I know told me that if you get your period after 12 midday then the fast still counts. This didn't make sense to me and therefore I asked those whom I trust best. wasalaam eleanor |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| se7en |
| 12/03/01 at 10:58:15 |
| as salaamu alaykum, Man, people will tell you all sorts of crazy things, it's definitely a good thing to ask for evidence. Jazaki Allahu khayran Marcie for posting up that quote from Fiqh us Sunnah. I've been taking some classes on sawm and we covered what invalidates the fast, and we went into some detail on making up fasts for the menstruating women. The thing is, this whole before noon/after noon thing was never brought up! And I'm pretty sure we would have talked about it, because it totally affects the amount of days you'd have to make up. Please don't ever hesitate to ask for evidence, especially when it comes to things people say on the board. The worst that would happen is that a person would be forced to go actually read a book or something :) take care :) wasalaamu alaykum. |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| eleanor |
| 12/03/01 at 12:58:19 |
| slm [quote]Please don't ever hesitate to ask for evidence, especially when it comes to things people say on the board. The worst that would happen is that a person would be forced to go actually read a book or something :) [/quote] Se7en, that totally cracked me up man! ;-D Wow am I a lazy one! But you're absolutely right. it's far easier to ask questions here than to go reading books! :) wasalaam eleanor |
| Re: A couple of random questions on fasting |
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| Marcie |
| 12/03/01 at 21:15:18 |
| As salamu alaykum Ukhti Eleanor, That is funny. The longer I'm a Muslim the more apt I am to pick up a book than to ask another Muslim. I have gotten too many flakey answers. As salamu alaykum Marcie |
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