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| Mujaahid |
| 11/26/01 at 05:56:32 |
| as salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh The USA is using force to try and remove Islam from Afghanistan, next as is shown by this report they are turning to the Jihad in Kashmir, then after that where? Chechnya? Uzbekistan? And for how long are some of the leaders of the Muslims going to carry on in their denial of this being a war against the Muslims? May Allah unite the Ummah to see the danger and aggression that is apparent - before those who call all of us to the fight against it are killed or silenced. And who would want to be held account by them as those who turned away because they just could not see the writing on the wall? Our enemies are obvious, and the path for us clear... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: www.islam-online.net U.S. Offers Equipment to Help India Quell Kashmiri Resistance NEW DELHI, Nov. 25 (News Agencies) - The United States has offered India sensors, unmanned aerial vehicles and other technical equipment to quell Kashmir's long struggle for independence and combat the infiltration of fighters from Pakistan into Kashmir, the Hindu daily newspaper reported Sunday. The purported offer was made when Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee visited Washington earlier this month to discuss the U.S.-led war on Afghanistan, Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported. "If India is satisfied with the equipment, it would have the option of buying them in larger quantities to strengthen its surveillance," said the report. If confirmed, the offer would be the first shipment of U.S. aid to India to counter the independence movement in Kashmir, where up to 70,000 people have been killed in the last 12 years. Indian security officials claim fighters periodically cross over from Pakistan into Indian-held Kashmir, where they lend support to the Kashmiri struggle. New Delhi and Washington have been collaborating for the last two years on the broad issue of what they describe as "counter-terrorism." In September, U.S. President, George W. Bush partially lifted sanctions against India and Pakistan, which were imposed in May 1998 after the two countries carried out tit-for-tat nuclear weapons tests. But the U.S. has continued a longstanding ban on exports to India of certain strategic equipment. On Wednesday, U.S. ambassador to India Robert D. Blackwill said that Washington and New Delhi were on the brink of forging stronger ties based on major defense interests and friendship. He added that restrictions on the sale of military supplies to India will likely be lifted following Bush's summit with Vajpayee on Nov. 9. "The two leaders had a very successful meeting in Washington, which is likely to enhance Indo-U. S. cooperation, whether it relates to intelligence sharing or arms sales," said Blackwill. He added, "The new Indo-U. S. relationship is built on common democratic values and overlapping national interests." He said the United States was looking at striking a long-term defense cooperation deal with India as the country was likely to emerge as a key security power in Asia. "We now anticipate a conclusive acceleration in defense cooperation," said Blackwill. "It will include arms sales, joint army exercises and military-to-military cooperation that happens between very good friends." India was among the first countries to back the U.S. campaign against Afghanistan, but is sensitive to Washington's alliance with its arch-rival, Pakistan. Blackwill sought to soothe those concerns when asked about Pakistan's support for those fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, whom India describes as separatists and terrorists. "A terrorist is a terrorist. They are not freedom fighters. No country will be permitted to provide sanctuaries to terrorists," he said. The ambassador also said that Washington would order financial institutions to freeze the assets of several Islamic groups in Kashmir. "You should expect to see other terrorist groups from Kashmir on that list," Blackwill said. The U.S. has already put some Muslim groups, such as Harakat ul-Mujahidin and Jaish-e-Mohammad, on its list of organizations whose assets have been ordered frozen as part of what it terms as its "war on terrorism". It has been reported that another group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, will soon be added to the list. "The international war against terrorism will not end till India is rid of terrorism. India and the United States are together in this battle," Blackwill added. Since the U.S.-led coalition began its military strikes on Afghanistan, there has been a string of high-level visits by U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to India. |
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| Kathy |
| 11/26/01 at 10:25:58 |
| slm So what are you- Mujaahid- going to do? |
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| Mystic |
| 11/26/01 at 10:55:39 |
| [slm] i am waiting on that answer...too. Good one Ukhty. [wlm] |
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| Mujaahid |
| 11/26/01 at 11:10:24 |
| as salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh I left the final part of the message open for a good reason - because each one of us can work in a way which is suitable and/or possible for us. Other than that I would have thought it implicit in my post that the least some of us should do is stop turning on our brothers and sisters (and yes it includes sisters and not just a bunch of stereotyped women beating, hand chopping, beard growing brothers) by perpetuating the propaganda that this is not a war against Muslims. And before someone comments on why brothers are where they are, being able to type what they are - save it. It has been brought up in other arenas before, and answered. The sources of those answers are not hard to find. was salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh |
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| Kashif |
| 11/26/01 at 11:26:02 |
| assalaamu alaikum I think its an unfair question to ask actually. Lets say for instance that brother mujaahid actually was going to become a mujaahid. I doubt that it would be wise to post such a thing on a public facing forum so that secret services could pick him up that very evening. Kashif Wa Salaam |
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| BroHanif |
| 11/26/01 at 18:07:56 |
| I tell you what brother mujahid will do, he'll make dua that we get off our backsides and make a stand for the ummah. Instead of being Arm chair generals and burning the American flag, cussing our own muslims, lets turn our attention to the muslims, lets unite for crying out loud and let our voice be one. Is it so obvious ??? If there was ever a time for the muslims to unite, this is it. We are already the scum of the earth, why should we try to go any lower. Salaams Hanif |
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| Kathy |
| 11/26/01 at 18:51:48 |
| wlm I think it was a fair question. I have been a Muslim for more years than most of these kids have been alive. I have heard so many Khutbas on what needs to be done. In regard to our children, communities, tribes, nations. But no one saying - what to do- only "we should do" I think the new generation will be different. I am impressed with many of the Muslims on this board. I think this is the generation that will make the difference! They are the ones that are going to change Cultural Islam of their parents to the Real Islam. I wish half of them lived in my community. I have always been fascinated by Mujahiids political postings- he has, by far, taught this old lady a thing or two, than any khutba on this subject. This is why I asked him- because I don't think he is all hot air. |
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| Saleema |
| 11/27/01 at 07:44:13 |
| [slm] I agree that we need to stop saying we should do this and that, enough of it already. We have to give life to what we have been saying, we have to give shape and form to what's in our hearts. A fight for anything doesn't go down pretty, it's ugly and it's hard. And it involves a lot of sacrifice and guts. I hope Allah givs me the guts to write without having to worry about receiving hate mail and being suspended to being kicked off of the paper to being taken to court. The only thing that I'm good at is writing and that's what I hope to contribute if not more some day inshallah against the voices of hatred and hypocracy. But I don't want to wait any longer. I want to start now. So pray for me--seriously. I don't think I have ever writen such scathing articles as I am writing now for our college newspaper. May Allah help me. If I'm stopped from writing, then I will stage a one woman protest. :) (scary....) [wlm] |
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