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years of missed salah
gift
11/26/01 at 06:49:43
[slm] somebody asked me a question but i didn't know how to answer it - does anyone have any info/knowledge of any rulings on the subject? the question was how does a muslim make up for salah that they have mised in the past years when their deen was not strong despite the fact that they may now be strong in the deen? ie a muslim is over the age of 7 when salah becomes compulsory, yet for several years he/she did not pray all the fard salahs i'd really like some info on this - for myself and to pass on to the questioner jazakallah hu khairun [wlm]

Re: years of missed salah
bhaloo
11/26/01 at 08:46:36
slm The following q/a was with Sheikh Munajid My Aunt ask me to ask you this question, She asked in past there were Fajar Salat that she missed, now she wants to know what does sharia say about past missed Salat. I would really appreciate if you could answer this question. May Allah reward you for evrything. Praise be to Allaah.   It is not clear from your question whether your aunt missed the prayers because of a reason such as sleeping, forgetting or being unconscious, etc., or whether she missed them deliberately, with no valid excuse. Whatever the case, if she missed them for a reason, she has to make up what she has missed, and also repent for the delay. If she did not have any excuse for missing the prayers, but denied that they are obligatory, or thought that they did not matter, or was too lazy to do them, then the correct scholarly view is that if a person who does not pray because he does not think the prayers are obligatory, or he is too lazy or he thinks they do not matter, there is no way that he can make up these prayers. There are deeds which must be done for Allaah at night, and He does not accept them during the day, and deeds which must be done during the day which He does not accept at night. (See the book: I want to repent, but…) The person who deliberately does not pray is a kaafir, if he does not pray at all; but if he repents and prays, he comes back to Islam, and he does not have to make up what he has missed, but he is advised to do a lot of naafil prayers. Islam also wipes out whatever (sins) came before. Shaykh Saalih ibn Fawzaan al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) was asked the following question: “I am a Muslim woman, al-hamdu-Lillaah. Not so long ago I did not pray and I did not know anything about matters of religion. But now, al-hamdu Lillaah, Allaah has guided me and I have started to pray, fast, read Qur’aan and recite Tasbeeh. I have completed the Qur’aan for the tenth time. Will Allaah forgive me for what I have done in the past and what I will do in the future, in secret and openly in my life? What more can I do so that Allaah will forgive me?”   The response was:   Repentance wipes out whatever (sins) came before it. So long as you have repented sincerely – al-hamdu Lillaah – and you are doing the duties enjoined upon you by Allaah and avoiding what He has forbidden, then Allaah will forgive whatever came before that repentance. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Say: “O ‘Ibaadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allaah, verily, Allaah forgives all sins” [al-Zumar 39:53] – even shirk, if the person who committed shirk then repents from it to Allaah, He will accept his repentance. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief), their past will be forgiven” [al-Anfaal 8:38]. The Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam wipes away whatever (sins) came before it, and repentance wipes away whatever (sins) came before it.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 4/204). If you have repented sincerely and you do what Allaah has enjoined upon you and avoid that which He has forbidden, this will be sufficient in sha Allaah for your past sins to be forgiven, but you must good deeds in the future, and keep on repenting and obeying the Islamic commandments which Allaah has enjoined upon you. And Allaah knows best.

Re: years of missed salah
gift
11/27/01 at 04:16:35
[slm] jazakAllah hu khairun brother  - this is a very clear answer from the shaikh [wlm]

Re: years of missed salah
se7en
12/02/01 at 19:17:27
as salaamu alaykum, [quote]The person who deliberately does not pray is a kaafir, if he does not pray at all; but if he repents and prays, he comes back to Islam, and he does not have to make up what he has missed, but he is advised to do a lot of naafil prayers. Islam also wipes out whatever (sins) came before. [/quote] From what I understand, there are two opinions about this.  One says that if a person does not perform salah at all, even if they acknowledge that they should, they have committed kuffr.  The other opinion says that though they've committed a serious wrong, they are still within the fold of Islam. Either way.. if you have a period of time in your life like this, I don't think it's something that should be looked at lightly.  It's not just a matter of committing one sin, but a multitude of sins.  You turned your back on something incumbent upon you every time the time for salah came in and you neglected it.  You lived twenty four hours a day consciously and deliberately disobeying Allah.  It's no joke.  Rasulullah [saw] told us that if our salah is defecient on the day of judgement, all of our deeds will be found defecient. I'm not trying to make the deen difficult, or make people to think that Allah will not grant mercy on them.  I just want to emphasize that we should do what we can to rectify our mistakes.  We should seek Allah's forgiveness in dua.. but we should also perform *a lot* of nafilah.  There are some scholars who even say you should perform a nafilah after *every* obligatory salah for the amount of time you were in a state of heedlessness. Ultimately we know that it is Allah's mercy that allows us to enter Jannah.  But we shouldn't think that we can do what we want, fool around, and it's ok because Allah will forgive us.  We're not Christians.. you and I don't have a ticket to Jannah.  We have a guidebook, and we have to use it, follow it, to get to our destination.  And if we get lost for a day, a month, a few years - we gotta do what we can to make up for our time missed.     wAllahu a'lam. wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah. ps - from the Qur'an: [color=black]These were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace - of the posterity of Adam, and of those who We carried (in the Ark) with Noah, and of the posterity of Abraham and Israel of those whom We guided and chose.  Whenever the Signs of (Allah) Most Gracious were rehearsed to them, they would fall down in prostrate adoration and in tears. But after them there followed a posterity who missed prayers and followed after lusts; soon, then, will they face destruction -   except those who repent and believe, and work righteousness: for these will enter the Garden and will not be wronged in the least - gardens of eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass.  They will not there hear any vain discourse, but only salutations of peace: and they will have therein their sustenance, morning and evening.   Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against evil.   -- [url=http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/19.html#58]Surah Maryam[/url][/color]

Re: years of missed salah
Rehana
01/10/02 at 03:18:30
[slm] [color=green][i][url=http://www.alinaam.org.za/bahishti/SALAAH.htm]Quoted from Bahisthi Zewar[/url][/color][i] [quote]15. A person who rarely used to offer his salaats made taubah. It will now be wajib for him to make qada of all the salaats which he had missed throughout his life. By making taubah, one is not excused from offering salaats. However, by making taubah, he is forgiven from the sin which he committed by missing out the salaats. Now, if he does not make qada of these missed salaats, the sin will return to him.[/quote] [quote]16. A person had missed several salaats and did not get the opportunity to make qada of them as yet. At the time of death, it will be wajib for him to make a wasiyyat to pay fidyah for all the missed salaats. He will be sinning if he does not do this. The masa'il related to giving fidyah for missed salaats will be explained in Part Three in the chapter dealing with fidyah for missed fasts - Insha Allah.[/quote] [quote]3. There is no stipulated time for qada salaat. Whenever one gets the opportunity, one should make wudu and offer salaat. However, one should take the makruh times of salaat into consideration.[/quote] [quote]13. Qada is only made for the fard and witr salaats. There is no qada for the sunnah salaats. However, if a person misses out his fajr salaat and makes qada of it before mid-day, he should also make qada of the sunnah of fajr salaat. And if he makes the qada after mid-day, he should only make qada of the fard salaat.[/quote] [slm]

Re: years of missed salah
Kashif
01/10/02 at 10:05:26
assalaamu alaikum Doesn't bahishti zevar contain some weak narrations in it?
NS

Re: years of missed salah
Rehana
01/11/02 at 02:22:28
[slm] :-) Br. Kashif, please elaborate regarding what you mean by "weak narrations".  Have you come across or "experienced" any that you could let us know about? My Nani use to reference the Bahisthi Zewar as well, so it has been around for a while.  It was initially written in Urdu and translated into English.  When you say weak narrations are you referring to the fact that the essence of some teachings could have been lost in the translation? Aside from this, and with all due respect to differing opinion on the matter, I have heard this being discussed in 2 seperate lectures by a Moulana and an Alima respectively, and both times it was mentioned that you have to make up for all the Salah you have missed. I do not purport to be an expert in these matters and would therefore appreciate clarity on any differing opinions :-) Jazak Allah [slm]

Re: years of missed salah
bhaloo
01/11/02 at 02:19:40
slm [quote] Doesn't bahishti zevar contain some weak narrations in it? [/quote] As far as I know, it does.  I seem to remember this topic being discussed here before and I think it was Asim, Arsalan, and Saleema that brought up some points.  Also the book does not site any evidence for the views it claims. As for the issue of making up prayers, there is a difference of opinion in this matter and you can see what I posted earlier from Sheikh Munajjid.

Re: years of missed salah
Rehana
01/11/02 at 03:07:42
[center][img]http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/bismillah.jpg[/img][/center] [slm] :-) I have found further information validitating the view that Qada Salaah has to be performed, and one's obligations to Salaah cannot be nullified for not performing their Salah. [url=http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2929]Source:Ask Imam[/url] [color=green]I wish to make up for my missed salah for the last 11 years, how should I do this? In a hadeeth it states that a child should be made to pray at the age of of 7 years and at the age of 10 years he should be beaten, if he does not pray. I was told by a scholar it is obligatory to pray from the age of 10. I am 21 years old and wish to make up all salah in the past. 1) Could you explain if I need to make salah from the age of 10 or when I became mature? I wish to make up for all prayers between 1990 (10 years old) and 2001 (21 years old). I have made a timetable to follow in order for me know how many prayers to complete and have completed. I have two problems 2) how do I make my intention? Meaning do I make the intention to make up the lost prayer e.g. 01/01/1990 for Fajr (be specific), or generally make an intention for a missed salah, and then pray? 3) I have prayed my salah between 1990-2001, but I feel many prayers were not accepted (some not all) due to reasons that make salah invalid and some I am just not sure about (praying to fast, not concertrating). I wish to redo all these salah (the ones I did and did not). Can I do this? I wish to account for every salah? So do I pray qadah for this? 4) If some prayers were accepted and I repeat them any way, can these repeats be accepted for another missed salah? If not, is this salah then nafil? 5) If I prayed a salah and I made qadah for it, which one will be accepted (even if the salah was done not to the best of ability but still valid, but qadah salah was prayed in the most excellent manner)? [/color] [color=blue][i] Maa shaa Allah, your concern for your Qadhaas (completion of the missed Salaats) is commendable. May Allah Ta'ala make it easy for you to fulfil it. The manner of completion is as follows: a) Calculate the number of Fardh Salaats only missed from the time you became mature up till now. The Witr Salaats is also included (6 Salaats per day = 180 Salaats per months = 2160 per year) b) Deduct the Salaats missed during the 'monthly cycle' as there is no Qadha for the Salaat missed during the monthly cycle. Try and determine the number of the missed Salaats. c) The number of fasts missed from the age of maturity should be calculated and completed. d) The money that you had paid will not suffice for the completion, rather, it will count as optional charity for which you will be rewarded, Insha Allah. [u]Word of Advice[/u] Thank Allah for giving you the concern to complete your missed Salaats. Allah Ta'ala wants to bring you closer to him. How would you face Allah on the day of Qiyaamat should you pass away without making the Qadhaas. The big figures that you might see should not break your courage. Rather, Shaytaan is going to work on your mind harder now to take you away from this great step that you would be taking towards getting closer to Allah Ta'ala. An easy method of fulfilling your Qadhaas is that from now on and after each Fardh Salaat of the day, read one Qadhaa Slaats of the same kind, e.g. after you discharge the Dhuhr of today, just read one Dhuhr Qadhaa Salaat of 4 Rakaats. There is no Qadhaa for the Sunnats and Nafls missed. There is no need to redo the Salaats which you have performed. Your intention for Qadhaa will be as follows: 'I intend making Qadhaa of my missed Salaat.' If you are in a habit of reading Nafl Salaat, rather perform your Qadhaa Salaats instead. This is your priority. Make maximum use of the big nights, big days, etc. that fall during the course of the year. For your Qadhaa fasts, try and fast once or twice a week and complete it. Lastly, make lots of Du'aa to Allah Ta'ala to make it easy for you, for He is the solution to all our matters. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim Desai FATWA DEPT. [/color] [url=http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/search.pl?query=missed&limit=20&order=DESC&sort=date&where=question]more[/url]

Re: years of missed salah
bhaloo
01/13/02 at 21:47:04
slm Mufti Desai follows hanafi fiqh, and as far as I know Bahishti Zewar is from a follower of hanafi fiqh.   Sheikh Darsh (of the UK, may Allah (SWT) preserve him, he passed away a few years ago) mentioned this: There are two points of view concerning the question of missed prayers. The first says that non-praying, born Muslims were kafir (unbelievers). Prior to their discovering Islam, while the other says that such people are no more than sinful Muslims. On the first opinion, the Hanbali school asks followers who did not pray to perform Tawbah, (asking Allah for forgiveness). Being non-Muslims before, there is no obligation on them to catch up on missed prayers. They should begin to pray regularly from the day they "entered Islam". According to the second opinion after making Tawbah, the person -who is considered to be a Muslim all along - should calculate the number of prayers missed. These prayers have to be completed whenever time allows. One method involves performing a missed prayer immediately after finishing a Fard prayer. The choice of method rests with the individual, and depends entirely on personal circumstances, state of Iman (faith), etc. A person who recently came to Islam is under no obligation to fulfil anything from anything in the past. His position is akin to that described in the Hanbali example above. Detailed Islamic obligations like prayer are incumbent only on believers, as illustrated by the following Hadith; Amr Ibn al Aas, ready to accept Islam at the hands of the Prophet (upon whom be peace), withdrew at the last minute. The Prophet asked him if had changed his mind to which Amr replied that he wanted to make sure that Allah had forgiven for the past sins he had committed against Islam. "Amr, said the Prophet (upon whom be peace), didn't you know that Islam erases your previous mistakes with Tawbah. Islam is a new, clean page in your life. Your test begins from the day you become a Muslim." (57 - Solah 3)

Re: years of missed salah
Arsalan
01/15/02 at 01:08:06
[slm] [quote]Sheikh Darsh (of the UK, may Allah (SWT) preserve him, he passed away a few years ago) [/quote]People usually say "may Allah preserve him" for people of knowledge that are *alive*.  Basically it is a du'aa which means that may Allah give the person a long life.  When a shaykh has passed away, the du'aa that is usually said after his name is "may Allah have mercy on him."  (rahimahullah).   Wassalamu alaikum
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