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| BroHanif |
| 11/29/01 at 08:35:18 |
| Aww, Ok I'd just like to know if any brothers had been in any fist fights or had ex of fighting their worst fights or the best fights(can be boxing or torunament fighting). And before the mods delete this message I'm just intersted in the fighting and what you learnt from it, nothing about beating somebody to a pulp. By the way sisters can reply on their exp of hair pulling and scratching somebody with their nails as well. Salaams Hanif |
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| NinthMuharram |
| 11/29/01 at 08:40:31 |
| Assalamualaikum, I'm sure you want the bros reply first. But my fingers happen to click at the Bros Section. I had an experience of fighting the boys. 2 boys to be exact. When I was abt 10 at my Quran ustaz home. Didn't remember what was the cause. But I beat them to pulp. What I learn : 1)Don't beat ppl cause it made me received countless smacks from my grandad 2) Girl Power!!!!! Ermm.. I better just let the bros do the talking.... <Tiptoed out of the Healh Club before any revenge start. In case the brothers I beat 10 yrs ago is alo in this board> |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/29/01 at 08:50:42 |
| were they like ,, ten times smaller then you? i got beaten up by a girl once. i was 4 years old and she grabed hold of my head and smashed it against a wall. she was one of them big fat girls. My brother and causin wanted to know who did that so they could get them. but i said it was a boy, cause i was so embarrased that a girl did it. I dont think you can call that a fight, cause a fight is when two people hit each other. i said some thing to another girl and that big fat one grabed hold of my head and smashed it against a wall. |
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| NinthMuharram |
| 11/29/01 at 08:53:49 |
| They were bigger than me. The 2 of them. But heck, both of them are married now and have kids!!! I wonder if they'll ask their kids to continue the revenge..kids can be dangerous nowadays..I better prepare myself.. so anyone got ant tips in handling kids??? And I wasn't a fat girl!!!! I guess bro jehad.. you're not the one I beat. At least we clear that out. |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/29/01 at 08:59:34 |
| ninth you are from malaysia,, did you do that sillet stuff on them??? i heard about that malaysian martial arts? |
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| bhaloo |
| 11/29/01 at 09:02:47 |
| slm [quote] i got beaten up by a girl once. [/quote] Jehad that has to be one of the most embarassing things that could happen to a guy. :) I haven't been involved in any fights before. Maybe they were just intimidated by me? ??? I think some of the guys on here were a little surprised, including Kashif. You know actually we did have this discussion on fights here. The thing I remember most about that discussion is sister Saleema mentioning that she beat up a football player. I think she has some pointers as well on fighting, Jehad you should take some notes. ;) |
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| NinthMuharram |
| 11/29/01 at 09:07:39 |
| Oh you mean Silat. It's a form of martial art in Malaysia. One day, I'll video tape a sample of it and put it on my upcoming website (dunno when though..laziness still controls me)...Silat is a beautiful form of martial art. There is even a branch of silat which follows the movement of our Solat. Of course we have the Tiger version, the Eagle..and so many others. But I don't think so. It was more like, they pulled my hijab, I kick and punch them stuff. If it weren't for our ustaz, I dunno what will happen. Or maybe I was practising my Silat on them since I started joining the martial art club at that age. |
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| Barr |
| 11/29/01 at 09:16:04 |
| Assalamu'alaikum [quote]any fist fights or had ex of fighting their worst fights or the best fights(can be boxing or torunament fighting). [/quote] This is my best fight... apart from my fights with my own brother... but of course... siblings always fight.. so that don't count. When I was in primary school, I purposely stepped on a boy's foot as I left the school van... then, turned round and said..."Ooops, sorry!"... coz I don't like him coz I think he likes me... eeeyucks! In restrospect... maybe I should've stepped a 'lil HARDER! :P Was I a lean mean machine, or what? Wassalam :-) |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/29/01 at 09:55:41 |
| bhollo where is the salama fight thing,, i was looking for it |
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| se7en |
| 11/29/01 at 09:58:18 |
as salaamu alaykum, It's [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=madrasa&action=display&num=972]here[/url], funny as heck thread :) wasalaam |
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| haaris |
| 11/29/01 at 12:17:58 |
| slm My only experience of fighting was when I was at school, in the Karate team. We fought Harrow school. For all you non-Brits, Harrow is, like, the second poshest Private school (actually we call them Public schools but there you go ...) in the country. My school was, needless to say, typical, working class oiks! When I won my fight, I felt like I'd done my bit for the class struggle. Man, it was like Das Capital condensed into a three minute bout ... |
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| Mahmoodah |
| 11/29/01 at 13:54:07 |
| salam, fighting experiances, eh??? hmmmmm, where do i start.................. lol ive had plenty of em...... mainly middle skool! actually....... not really a fight........ i did da hittin, but havnt got hit back... haha! i've hit afew guys b4 for pullin on ppls hijabs, messin w/ decent gals n all dat! (n yea.. they were RALLY embarrased to b hit by a gal,! haha!). ive slaped afew gals for messin (bad ways) or for spreadin lies, which upset others! w/s |
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| mujaahid |
| 11/29/01 at 14:36:37 |
| Assalaamu-alaikum My most memorable fights are many. The one that was the most spectacular happened when i was 12. in was in the school cantten dinner que, just after class had finished. The queue is next to the stairs. When the fight kicked off, the stairs, lower and upper floors were packed with people, literally hundreds. During the fight, everyone just stopped and watched, as we were fighting on the middle floor. It started when some bully tried to jump the queue, one of my mates pulled him back and he tumbled down the stairs. This guy thought it was me, ran up, and punched me flush on the face, i immediatly dropped my bag and just let go with a non-stop barrage of punches (i had been practising during that ramadhan by putting a sofa cusion up on a table agianst a wall and pounding it, non-stop). I remember really disliking him as he used to bully a lot, and i was just going wild with rage! it was punch after punch after punch, and everyone was cheering on thier stairs, i just kept pounding him non-stop and then for some reason i just grabbed him in a head lock, and asked if he wanted to carry on, he said no, so i let him go. he picked up his bag, looked at the floor and walked out the building, while the hundreds of students, who had a perfect view cheered! It was awesome! I was red with embarrasment, having everyone cheering me, after all i was some wee little kid being cheered on by all the year 7, 8, 9, 10, AND 11's onlookers! Then once the fight stopped, all the guys in the queue gathered round to shake my hand :) In another dinner queue incident, that same year, a big fat girl, about a foot taller then me, and I were having an argument, and just name calling, and it got pretty heated, and she was getting angry, and i was enjoying it (hey i was only 12 so no lectures please), then to push her over the edge, i decided to swear at her mom! So i did, she went bright red with rage and SLAPPED me with the hardest slap i ever got hit with! And i never forgot it! I never hit back, because all the guys would have laughed even more, so i just swallowed my pride and laughed it off! But i'll never swear at a fat women again as long as i live. My first boxing incident, was the first time i ever went to a gym. I was asked to step in to spar with a white guy who was a known racist. I was pretty nervous as he was experienced, but i knew i could give him a godd fight. I remeber this was the FIRST day i had EVER been to a gym. The bell went, the round started, and for my first punch i just wildly hurled a right hook, with all my power, and it hit him flush on the chin, he just fell to the ground with huge force, and was knocked unconcious! He was out cold for about 10 minutes. During that time i was seriously scarred that i had badly and permanently hurt this guy, as he wouldnt come round. I was thinking i am never gona throw another punch in my life, that i was gona hate boxing. I remember thinking all kinds of things like i'm gona go to court, gona go to a kids prison etc for injuring someone so badly! But thankfully slowly the other guy started moving, and slowly woke up, and got up, he was ok! I was so happy!!! On my way home i thought to myself "i wanna be a boxer" :) |
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| Sparrow |
| 11/29/01 at 14:50:12 |
| I had a guy punch me once when I was 14, he was quite surprised when I stood up and whacked him in the mouth. It really hurt my hand, that did. Never was much of a fist fighter though, I've always been more of a thrower of things...remote controls, books, I threw a videotape at my sister one time (she was irritating me) unfortunately it missed her by a mile but clocked my mom's best friend, who choose that exact moment to walk in the door, right in the face, perfect hit. I haven't thrown anything at anyone since :) Sparrow |
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| Kathy |
| 11/30/01 at 09:11:30 |
| slm [quote] i said some thing to another girl and that big fat one grabed hold of my head and smashed it against a wall.[/quote] [quote] ...a big fat girl,... went bright red with rage and SLAPPED me with the hardest slap i ever got hit with! [/quote] Never mess with a fat chick.....:-) (why did I get such a delight from these two posts) |
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| NewJehad |
| 11/30/01 at 11:56:55 |
| Are only fat girls tough? are any fat girls feminine? |
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| Mahmoodah |
| 11/30/01 at 14:04:31 |
[quote]Are only fat girls tough? are any fat girls feminine?[/quote] salam... i know femine fat gals! n i also know tough thijn gals!!! u dnt hav to b fat to b tough! wa-salam |
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| mujaahid |
| 12/01/01 at 08:11:31 |
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| ABD |
| 11/30/01 at 19:48:34 |
| Assalamu Alaikum waRahmatullahi waBarakatuHu, You really want to ask that question BroHanif? If I get started on the fist fights that I've had with girls and guys, Subhanallah, there's no end to the list -:) The most memorable one was in middle school in Turkey. I was fighting with some of my classmates. Subhanallah, six girls against me, we were kicking, punching, pulling each other's hair, it was horrible. But we were young, and Alhamdulillah we grew up....I think!! j/k No more of that now though, but if someone ever does do s/thing to me, Insha'Allah I'm ready.... Wassalamu Alaikum, Betul |
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| flyboy_nz |
| 11/30/01 at 20:02:39 |
| [slm] bro mujaahid, looks like you've been scarred for life. ease up on the slandering bro...its Ramadhan afterall. [wlm] Ahmed |
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| Marcie |
| 11/30/01 at 20:22:11 |
| As salamu alaykum I would think that the moral of the story would be never to insult someone's mother, which of course we as Muslims never do. As salamu alaykum Marcie |
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| Mystic |
| 11/30/01 at 23:30:18 |
| [slm] I remember two fights when i was young...the only two I ever was in...man!!! What a mess. The first, some *boy* said something unacceptable and *reactionary* I took a big, huge, blackboard ruler and hit him upside the head with it!!!! :):):) It was hilarious:) (sorry guys....) and then of course he threatened to beat me and stuff, so i told my brothers to help me cuz I knew i was in trouble then:):):):):) And then in primary school too, this other girl came and slapped me...(I never remember my role in these situations:):):) ) anywayz, it was in public, recess, everyone around...i felt the suspense and simply fought her until two teachers had to pry us apart:):):) it was funny too...kinda (i didn't like this one, cuz she cried a whole lot and i got punished wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than her for this...). mmm...i think there is a lesson emerging here... :) gotta go.. peace:) M [wlm] |
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| nehar |
| 12/01/01 at 01:36:40 |
| [slm] im innocent *lol*, i've only threw furniture at a few guys, but that was almost 2 yrs ago, due to 2 many hindi movies!!! [quote] By the way sisters can reply on their exp of hair pulling and scratching somebody with their nails as well. [/quote] just like 2 say that not all of us go around pulling hair, as a matter of fact i c many guys pulling hair and scatching with nail!!! [quote] ive had plenty of em...... mainly middle skool! [/quote] actually my dear mahmoodah, i thought they were getting more common now, lol!!! [quote] Never mess with a fat chick..... [/quote] good point, i was always very careful around the big 1's, there was one big gurl who smashed this boys face in ma class 4 callin her fatty- man she was scary!!! [wlm] Nehar |
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| se7en |
| 12/01/01 at 03:13:33 |
| We need some adab up in here. |
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| meraj |
| 12/01/01 at 10:11:14 |
| slm, i agree.. i think we can refrain from refering to someone's weight or sex in a derogatory manner. |
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| princess |
| 12/01/01 at 19:20:52 |
| walikumas'salaam warahmatullah ;-D when i was younger, my cousin taught me how to fight with a girl..she gave me loads of pointers, cuz she wanted me to be "tough" :) someone actually PMed me and said.. [quote]so im sure you have some fighting stories to tell, since you are a pungay baaz. ;)[/quote] i would like to point out, that although i may be a pungay baaz, i've never gotten into a fight, alhamdulillah :) i was a bit surprised that someone thought of me as a fighting pants..:) but there's always a 1st time for everything ;) ;-D |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/16/02 at 00:09:58 |
| Assalaamu Alaykum At the ICNA conference a couple years back here in Baltimore I was approached by one of my sisters friends and told that she was upset cuz some guy was **Cough** **Cough** bothering her. I then went to my sister and said tell the brother to stop, because it was a Muslim convention and I didnt want to get ghetto on anybody. THen Later in the day I saw my sis and she said it hadnt stopped and that she was getting a little perturbed. I again tried to be patient and told her to tell him stop or else she has a brother with a bad temper who wont be too thrilled at the idea of his sister being harrassed. Then even later in the day her friend came to me again and said my sister was crying because of this guy who just wouldnt stop. This was the last straw. I told a few brothers to come with me just in case it got a little out of hand and approached the brother. Upon approaching the scene my sister came to me and pointed him out saying in his presence that he was the guy who wouldnt take no for an answer, and when she got a little louder he started to curse and call her names. I asked him politely if she was telling the truth. He said "talk to me in URDU" So I repeated my question in URDU and the brother said no" I then asked my sis if she was lying and she gave an emphatic "NO" and a few of her friends added in that he was lying. I then asked the brother again and added this time that if he didnt tell me the truth that i was gonna hurt him. He then got in my face and said "Hit me then" I then pushed the brother out of my face, and the brother jumped at me and we got into a wrestling match. We went back and forth until I scooped slammed him on top of a bunch of chairs tha were stacked up. At this I heard a chorus of OOOOHHHH's and was pulled off of the brother. When I was being pulled off, the guy I was scuffling with grabbed my shirt as if tryin to choke me with it and I gave him one quick punch. We were then separated and I was taken by my friends to the security center and the other brother was kicked out by older brothers. When I got to the security room i expected to be bombarded with "WHAT ARE YOU DOING's" but instead I was greeted with a handshake by the head of security and told that I had done the right thing. They said that the brother deserved what he got and that he was kicked out of the convention. |
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| akbalkhan |
| 01/16/02 at 02:21:29 |
| More fights than I can remember. I had always been the guy you had to watch your lunch money around, as I remember just knocking guys out in the lunch room for their lunch money. I was out cold in high school. I calmed down and figured that I would like to keep my nice straight teeth. I can honestly say that I have only been hit a handful of times. I wrestled in high school and was undefeated in my level, and was able to pin our heavyweight 185+ when I was 125lbs class. I remember sending all of my wrestling partners in all the weight classes down to the physician every day until I couldn't practice with my year anymore. I broke some guys ribs during a match and won the match since I just squeezed him too hard. The ambulance had to come and cart him away with a neck brace and everything. I quit wrestling after that since I really don't like hurting people, and then even winning!!! Best advice to anyone anticipating a street fight, BUST FIRST!! If it comes down to authorities getting involved, your both going to spend at least a night in the clink, even if you don't land one and get beat up!! I would have to say my most memorable experience is when I was studying ninjitsu. I would go out at night and practice acrobatics, conditioning the forarms and shins, scaling buildings and trees, practicing kicks, grappling and punches- all shadow practice anyway, basically just reeking havoc in my hood. Anyway, one of these guys who used to make fun of my nightly training sessions decided that the best way to mock me was to join me and then after one or two days he challenged me to a sparring match in front of a bunch of other guys. After one second of doing the 'man dance' I did a reverse round house kick right onto the side of his jaw and he hit the ground pretty hard. Every one just burst into laughter, I leaned over to see if he needed surgery- he was cool. Anyway, I spend more time these days trying to convince hot heads that they don't want to test me, as I am more likely to irreversibly hurt someone after training than to play around with breaking my knuckles on skmeone's thick skull. Just a word to the wise, look out for the small looking, wiry cats who don't seem scared to fight. Talk it out with them if they are willing and go your separate ways, cause it might be me!!!! Regards, Qamar Akbal Kaan |
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| MuslimSis |
| 01/16/02 at 06:34:09 |
| as-salaam alaikum. hay u know wat??? i've never even EVER slapped any 1:o, i suppose theres always a 1st time for everything like Sr.princess said;). Hmmm i blame it on ma siblings, they always sort thins out for me (b4 i can b bothered):). i dunno wat i'd do without ma sisters and ma bro-lol Mohammed...i now gather that all (if not all most) older brothers are the same-lol, my bros a bit like u but i think he would have entered into the fight with no patients and with out thinking!!! take care |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/16/02 at 06:47:34 |
| Its not just about older brothers, its just that we ARE brothers. After reading about the story of the sister during Muhammed PBUH who had her Jilbaab stuck to her back while she was sitting and when she got up her leg was shown and the one brother with no fear of death cut the guy's head off who committed this haneous act just is an inspiration to me. In high school i used to make sure that none of the muslim sisters were being teased or ridiculed or else I would try my hardest to make the situation easier for them. I have gotten in a few fights in the defense of sisters not just my blood related. Salaamz |
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| eleanor |
| 01/16/02 at 06:57:29 |
| slm we had a lot of sibling fights in my family.. my sister used to beat up my older brother, she's older than him, he used to beat me up and then I'd beat up my little brother.. But now I feel *soo* guilty for beating him up. :( I feel really really bad about it, like I want to die, when I think of how I thumped him and was mean to him... sniff sniff.. Outside my family I don't think I ever had any "fights". A lot of kicking in the shins or pinching, but no real scuffs so to speak. Alhamdulillah. wasalaam eleanor |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/16/02 at 08:05:51 |
| Salaam to all the Ninja's in the house! You poeple are violant! Shame on you ;) |
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| Kathy |
| 01/16/02 at 12:37:46 |
| slm Just a side thought as I was reading these posts - When guys fight guys- do they ever punch/kick the "private area" of the other guy? |
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| akbalkhan |
| 01/16/02 at 12:53:47 |
| In a gentlemens' brawl its kind of an unsaid taboo, you know keep it clean and all that jazz. But if you grow up where I did, or you fight where I live now at my age, I am not about figuring out if someone guy is a gentlemen or not. If the opportunity afforded itself, the groin is a legitimate target. The best advantage in any fight is hit first and hard in order to end it before you loose teeth, break your nose, or catch a case. In my hood if someone is approaching you to do you harm, or there are signals of malintent, chances are you could catch a shank, some lead, or worse, so there is no hesitating or considering the other persons regard for whats fair or not. But I have never needed to use that area and it is only really good for a quick stun move on less tolerant opponents, you know, like kick and run....If you got somebody who is just insane and could care less where you hit him, then you got to break or damage necessary appendages that would limit or end his ability to move, breathe or see for long enough to subdue him. |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/16/02 at 13:30:07 |
| Salaam Kathy I was once hit in that place, during a fight and pretty hard. However i didnt feel it, until AFTER the fight, when all of a sudden i was overcome by an excruciating pain which caused me to walk funny for a few minutes. The thing is, during a fight, if the adreneline is really pumping, you dont feel much pain, apart from if you get hit in the eyes. You often hear people who have been stabbed ay they didnt realise they had been stabbed, cut, until AFTER the fight, once the adrenaline starts to go down. The groin is a good target, but only at the start of a fight, as once the adrenaline is really flowing(halfway through, towards end of fight) the other guy will not really feel much pain! |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/17/02 at 09:03:53 |
| Salaam Muhammed Bro, when you said some guy was bothering your sister at that conference, how did you mean? What was he doing? Saying stuff etc? Or actually trying to put his hands on her? What kinda stuff was he doing/saying? |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/17/02 at 13:29:58 |
| He kept on approaching her and trying to...how phey say in the hood..."holla". Salaamz |
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| se7en |
| 01/17/02 at 14:09:34 |
as salaamu alaykum, [quote]He kept on approaching her and trying to...how they say in the hood..."holla". [/quote] Holla = flirt for those of you from the UK :) so for example someone would say... Yo shortie, can I holla at ya? And that means.. "Excuse me mi'lady. Would you care to speak to me for a moment?" :) |
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| Laboogie |
| 01/17/02 at 17:44:14 |
| [slm] [quote]Yo shortie, can I holla at ya?[/quote] ummm, no u didnt,LOL, LOL ;) u crazy peace |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/19/02 at 13:20:19 |
[quote] as salaamu alaykum, He kept on approaching her and trying to...how they say in the hood..."holla". Holla = flirt for those of you from the UK :) so for example someone would say... Yo shortie, can I holla at ya? And that means.. "Excuse me mi'lady. Would you care to speak to me for a moment?" :) [/quote] thanks for clarifying that for me. Salamz |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/20/02 at 12:48:35 |
| Salaam I dont get it! Why would a sister start crying if a guy went to her and said "I wanna talk to you mi'lady"? |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/20/02 at 14:10:23 |
| She had volunteered as a food server in the sister's side and he was part of the food crew on the sister's side also. After constantly harrasing her she turned around and said something to him which he didnt like. He then responded with cursing and name calling and she started crying. I hope that is detailed enough for you to understand the situation. Salaamz |
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| Anik |
| 01/20/02 at 14:55:38 |
| asalaamu alaikum, made your sister cry? Once some guy force-kissed my sister and he ended up in the hosptial (astag'ferlah). Its really important to protect the sisters. I guess Islam should make us more tolerant as well though right, like walk away sometimes even though goin buckwile is the most pressing response. asalamu aalikum. abdullah,. |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/20/02 at 18:21:13 |
| its not like she was balling in the corner of the convention center, she was shedding tears because the guy called her names which to some women are a little embarissing (sp) if they are yelled at them in the presence of other people and that is enough for me to destroy somebody. I gave that guy 3 chances to stop and he didnt so he got what he wanted, a date with me. Salaamz |
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| MuslimSis |
| 01/21/02 at 05:17:06 |
| as-salaamu alaikum,[quote]Once some guy force-kissed my sister and he ended up in the hosptial[/quote][quote] I gave that guy 3 chances to stop and he didnt so he got what he wanted, a date with me. [/quote]...they deserved what they got:)! ppl don hav any right to harass a sister like that):(, whether its verbal or physical. Br.Mohammed, u sholdn't hav even gave him the 3 chances! he should know a muslim gathering is not for flirts!!! take care, w'salaam |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/21/02 at 08:59:37 |
| Assalaamu-alaikum Abdullah your right, a gathering is not for flirts. I guess something cannot be right when we agree on something ;) However we should also make sure that we dont allow these situations to arise in the firts place, by keeping everyone separate. |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/21/02 at 08:54:58 |
| Assalaamu-alaikum <She had volunteered as a food server in the sister's side and he was part of the food crew on the sister's side also> Why was a man allowed to work on the sisters side? Men have no reason to be working on a womens side, even if their arnt enough women to do the work. I cannot understand why any guy would "volunteer" to work on the sisters side apart from the chance for him to perv at them. <After constantly harrasing her she turned around and said something to him which he didnt like> Good :) He should then have hung his head in shame for pushing a sister to the point she would respond like that and walk out, or apologise. <if they are yelled at them in the presence of other people and that is enough for me to destroy somebody> The FIRST time he said something, your sister should have gone and told you, and you should have aksed him to come over onto the bros side. She should not have allowed him to pester her like that. Once it was clear what he was trying to do, he should have been moved. However in the end you done the right thing by beating him. I hope you spared his face as the Prophet Muhammed (saw) told us to spare the face of a muslim if you MUST hit them. But it would have been best if you avoided the situation in the first place, by not allowing men to work on the womens side, no matter what. Hopefully the organisers of that event have realised thier mistake and shall not allow it agian. Abdullah <Once some guy force-kissed my sister and he ended up in the hosptial> Maashallah. Thats the only way to deal with such people. <I guess Islam should make us more tolerant as well though right> errr no, i dont think thats correct. If someone tried to force-kiss a woman, that would be sexual abuse, and hence a crime, and so it should be punished! You cannot walk away, and he should NOT be allowed to walk away! Some guys have no respect at all for women, thinking they can do as they please, i.e. laugh and joke, try and chat sisters up, maybe in a friendly way put thier arm around them or something. These people can go and do that to women who dont mind, but when/if they do it to a muslim woman who DOES mind, then they should be made to regret it. I've seen too many "Holla" type guys in my time, big headed, flashy, arrogant. Then can holla all they like, but do it to someone who dont like it, and see what happens! Holla? Yeah go and Holla to the lampost. When i was younger, and i used to go to weddings, thier would almost ALWAYS be fights breaking out, i never could understand why, but now i realise its maybe because some fools try and get jiggy with the sisters, and end up getting jiggy with thier big bro's ;) |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/21/02 at 12:41:05 |
| believe me bro, I was asking the same question about why that guy was there, and I was told that he was with the catering crew that came from the restaurant. My sister has had the same type of thing happen before with a guy trying to "holla", but she usually handles it well by dismissing the guy. I figured it wasnt anything big and then it led to this. |
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| Abd_Allah |
| 01/21/02 at 12:42:41 |
[quote] u sholdn't hav even gave him the 3 chances! he should know a muslim gathering is not for flirts!!![/quote] ummm...i guess you never been to ISNA or ICNA, a vast number of people go to them just to flirt...Salaamz |
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| Anik |
| 01/22/02 at 00:29:36 |
| aslaamu alaikum That's one thing I totally cannot tolerate... a female being harassed. I woulnd't be able to stand someone doing that to my siste, mother and wife. I felt so bad now that I think about it... I once had to hit a muslim guy. I was in my last year of high school, and my sister had just come in as a freshman. I was pretty much familiar with all the OAC's (grade 13) and they knew me, but not my sister. There was always this one guy, two years older than me, a muslim brother, who was always gawking at girls and making rude sex jokes... I mean, real horny comments and gross cat-calling and stuff. And one day, my sister came up to me in the central atrium and asked me something about driving home or something, and as soon as she left, this guy pops out from the corner and is like, "Yo, who is that girl you were talking to? Were you trying to mack that?" Just as my sister was walking away but in earshot... and then he goes "What's that sh#$ on her face? That's ugly guy!" Something like that... My sister used to have a dermatological problem... a very bad acne condition that put her self esteem in the pits. And I was SO sure she had heard that... and Thank Allah SWT she walked away just in time and didn't notice, and this guy was laughing his butt off and continued saying stuff and making rude jokes, TO ME! about my very own little sister! And so I go, "Who were you talking about?" and he goes "The girl who came up to you, with the nasty face" and I just laughed slyly and went dark in an instant "That's my sister" And his face just went pale, a guy way bigger and older than me, and he started stammering while I held his collar REAL tight and shook him up... I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO steamed.... I am usually a barker not a biter, but I felt so overcome by anger, I punched him in his face once and still held on, looking him straight in the eyes... he didn't flinch, try to fight back, nothing, just shrivelled and he was like "Wa Allahi, I didn't know it was your sister. Wa Allahi I'm sorry. Wa Allahi, Swear to Allah I didn't know." Even being a hindu at the time, that struck a cord in me. I released him with a push and walked off to class. After school, he came up t me before I could find him, looking very sorry, and goes, "Look man, I'm so sorry, I didn't know I swear, Wa'Allahi, look please, I've been crying the whole time..." and I felt bad then... and kinda swelled since this two-years older guy is apologizing like that to a little guy like me, and I just told him, "Just never say that to ANY girl again. Don't ever say it to ANY girl, not just my sister." And he was like, "I won't... yo guy, I got your back... any time you need it, I got your back..." and now I see him at masjid sometimes for Jum'uah and we shake hands and say salaams. Sometimes, Allah SWT takes us right out of an angry situation. aslamau alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| MuslimSis |
| 01/22/02 at 09:16:26 |
| as-salaamu alaikum,[quote] guess you never been to ISNA or ICNA, a vast number of people go to them just to flirt...Salaamz[/quote]still, that shouldnt be their intentions, so i wouldn't hav given 3 chances! If they really wanna flirt they should go to the mela's or the indian gatherings and flirt with the gals dat dont mind!!! Any ways its hard to explain these sorta things to the ignorant men that flirt around at such places!!! So the only way they will learn is...a date with the bros;) ok i aint makin sence again,??? take care w'salaam |
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| veilsofbeauty |
| 01/23/02 at 16:16:32 |
| I don't have an older bro, (i'm the oldest sista out of a family with 4 daughters and one son), but my father would probably tear a guy to pieces if he ever said anything dirty to me, or even tried to touch me. He always gives me tips on how to beat guys up, and how to put people in a real good choke. Yep, that's my daddy :) But it's my lil' sister who's real good, she's in this muslim judo club we have here, she's short but real cute when she fights I've been somewhat of a fighter, a tom-boy growing up. In grade 9, i went to an all-girls islamic school, and got in a fight with this one girl who said some stuff about my mom, who was volunteering at lunchtimes. the lecture we got on adab *sigh*...and i got in trouble at home too! My parents said it doesn't matter, she's a muslim, and you don't fight muslims...but she was sooooo mean. |
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| PuNkYHiJaBi |
| 01/24/02 at 18:37:37 |
| salaams..the icna convention that happened in baltimore was like the worse!...sooo manny gurls had probs with guyz bothering them...me and my friends where being followed by like 2 guyz...ughhh..we kept on tryin to lose them but it just didnt work...and they had those little smirks on there face...it was majorly freaky....they actually had the nerve to ask us what hotel we where in! and i just cant stand security..i went and complained or whatever...and it was like..oh okay...and then they did nothing abt it):( |
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| Hajreee |
| 01/24/02 at 21:44:01 |
| Salaams oh gosh, the worse jokes are about parents! i don't know how people can say something about someone elses parents???! and another mean joke is when guys make fun of a girl's acne and weight...that's really horrible, those type of things do affect alot of girl's self esteems...it's just sad... and those islamic conferences, yeah, they're referred to as "meat market" LOL...you really have to be careful! but that's sad you have to watch out at a muslim conference! anywho, i get into this habit of posting one thing and then posting everywhere! i need to get out of this addiction, too much work to do! i'm heading off, Salaams =) |
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| MuslimSis |
| 01/25/02 at 06:11:47 |
| as-salaamu alaikum,[quote]and another mean joke is when guys make fun of a girl's acne and weight...that's really horrible, those type of things do affect alot of girl's self esteems...it's just sad[/quote]...hmmm, yea the gals i know with this sorta problem hav started layering their make-up on):(, i dunno y they wanna give the flirts cheap thrills!!! But if u go to such conferences with a nikaab, jilbab...ect, i'm shower they guys will think ur married therefore wont follow or bug ya;) Actually the jilbab (burka) is enough, it tricks those idiots-lol take care, w'salaam |
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| SaadZ |
| 02/09/02 at 19:40:05 |
| Muhammed Bro, when you said some guy was bothering your sister at that conference, how did you mean? What was he doing? Saying stuff etc? Or actually trying to put his hands on her? What kinda stuff was he doing/saying? salaams, Iboo u posted it OMG!!!! oki... see, the guy was ummm not from around here. aka he was fresh off the boat from pakistan. he kept talking to me even after i told him in 2 different languages to SHUT UP. ok that didnt bother me. see at a point in time i was VERY VERY overweight. now i m just chubby, he kept callin me fat. i dont know how he knew that would get to me but he was gettin a thrill out of it, so i yelled at him with a few choice words in urdu and english and he didnt like that at all so now he just kept messing me up (cuz i was working with the food) he dropped sahlan on me maaaayan. i cried out of frustration, not cuz im weak. if he hadnt a looked that dirty, i woulda hit him myself. now that should inshaALLAH clear up the rest of ur questions. salaams saadia |
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| SaadZ |
| 02/09/02 at 19:55:27 |
| o yea and another way to make them think ur married. when icna was in baltimore for the first time in 99...me and my friends bought saudi mens scarves Imamas??? and wore them on our shoulders. people automatically assumed that we were married cuz its a "man scarf". also the decoy fake wedding ring thing works too. salaams saadia ...o yea i know jilbabis that got hitted on too so it doesnt always work... |
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| kareema |
| 02/10/02 at 01:22:38 |
| You mean the gutra and kaffiyeh? Or are you talkin bout something else? |
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| ABD |
| 02/14/02 at 00:47:14 |
| [slm] What do u mean 'men scarves'??? I didn't know there was such a thing.. [wlm] Betul |
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| SaadZ |
| 02/14/02 at 21:01:00 |
| my brother just told me that they are called kafiyas. we call them man scarves. not a normal term tho just us columbia girls. saadia |
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