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Fasting and your period
Anonymous
12/03/01 at 23:06:00
[slm]

Sorry, it wouldn't let me log in, but this is Ruqayyah. I had a
question also about fasting and your period. here is my situation. I went to
bed saturday night and sometime saturday night my period stopped, so
when i woke up sunday around noon, i was done w/ my period. i didn't eat
the rest of the day until iftar, so does this count as a valid day of
fasting, since i didn't make my intention to fast Saturday night or
Sunday morning at suhoor time??

I hope that made sense. Just to be on the safe side, i'm thinking i
should prolly just make up the day.

thanks for your help!

[wlm]
Ruqayyah
Re: Fasting and your period
amal
12/04/01 at 04:12:50
slm,

Ruqayyah, the following is from Fiqh Al-Sunnah:
[quote]
Volume 3, Page 113c: Essential elements of fasting, the intention

Allah instructs in the Qur'an: "And they are ordained nothing else than to serve Allah, keeping religion pure for Him." The Prophet, upon whom be peace, said: "Actions are judged according to the intention behind them, and for everyone is what he intended."

The intention must be made before fajr and during every night of Ramadan. This point is based on the hadith of Hafsah which reported that the Prophet said: "Whoever does not determine to fast before fajr will have no fast" (that is, it won't be accepted). This is related by Ahmad, an-Nasa'i, at-Tirmizhi, Abu Dawud, and Ibn Majah. Ibn Khuzaimah and Ibn Hibban have classified it as sahih.

The intention is valid during any part of the night. It need not be spoken, as it is in reality an act of the heart which does not involve the tongue. It will be fulfilled by one's intention to fast out of obedience to Allah and for seeking His pleasure.

If one eats one's pre-dawn meal (sahoor) with the intention of fasting and to get closer to Allah by such abstinence, then one has performed the intention. If one determines that one will fast on the next day solely for the sake of Allah, then one has performed the intention even if a pre-dawn meal was not consumed.

According to many of the jurists, the intention for a voluntary fast may be made at any time before any food is consumed. This opinion is based on 'Aishah's hadith: "The Prophet came to us one day and said: 'Do you have any [food]?' We said, 'No.' He said: 'Therefore, I am fasting." This is related by Muslim and Abu Dawud.

The Hanafiyyah and Shaf'iyyah stipulate that the intention must be made before noon (for voluntary fasts). The apparent opinion of Ibn Mas'ud and Ahmad is that the intention may be made before or after noon.

[/quote]

Hope it helps :)
Re: Fasting and your period
Anonymous
12/05/01 at 01:45:54
Assalamu alaikum,

I don't have the answer to your question, but this is what I found in
Shaykh Munajjid's "70 Issues Related to Fasting."  It seems related,
wallahu a'lam:

[color=black]If a person does not know that Ramadaan has started until
after dawn, he has to stop eating and drinking for the rest of the day,
and he has to make that day up later on, according to the majority of
scholars, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
him) said: “There is no fasting for the one who does not have the
intention to fast from the night before.” (Reported by Abu Dawood,
2454).[/color]
Re: Fasting and your period
Marcie
12/06/01 at 10:42:24
As salamu alaykum Sister,  

I'm not a scholar, but I have some thoughts on the matter.  Since you slept until noon you really don't know when your period ended.  It might be that you actually missed subh prayer.  I know that the end of your period is always tricky so my suggestion to you would be that from now on when you are almost finished get up in the morning and check before subh, so that you are comfortable with your decision and know exactly where you stand regarding your period.  Just some food for thought.

As salamu alaykum
Marcie
Re: Fasting and your period
eleanor
12/07/01 at 14:04:08
slm

Related to this I have another question...

Say in this instance, your period stops in the night. Do you have to make Ghusl before starting fasting or can you make it after the Azan for Fajr. ie when Azan comes, then make Ghusl, then pray. Is that okay?
The same with regards to junub.

I suppose what I am asking is if it is okay to fast if you haven't made Ghusl for whatever reason.

hmm, hope at least one person has understood what I mean..

wasalaam
eleanor
Re: Fasting and your period
tq
12/07/01 at 14:42:57
Assalamo elikuim
What I have understood is that you can make ghusul latter as long as you don’t miss any salat i.e you can do ghusul after the azzan but before the time for fajr is over.
May be some knowledgeable sister can shed more light on it
Wasalam
tq
Re: Fasting and your period
Anonymous
12/10/01 at 22:43:51
Salams,

Im not that knowledgeable but I thought that you had to have a bath (at
least put water over your body three times) in order to pray or fast
after your period is finished? If Ruqqayah had not done this, then would
her fast then be vaild anyway?
Salams
Re: Fasting and your period
Jenna
12/11/01 at 06:57:27
[wlm]

Question:

Is it permissible to delay ghusl for janaabah until after dawn has broken? Is it permissible for women to delay ghusl following the end of menstruation or post-natal bleeding until after dawn has broken?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

If a woman sees that she has become taahir (pure) before Fajr, then she has to fast, and it does not matter if she delays ghusl until after dawn has broken. But she should not delay it until the sun is risen. The same applies in the case of junub (impurity after sexual activity), one should not delay ghusl until after the sun has risen and in the case of men, they should hasten to do ghusl so that they can pray Fajr with the jamaa’ah (in the mosque).

Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz (www.islam-qa.com)

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The fast of one who has intercourse with his wife at night and wakes up in the morning in a state of junub is still valid, as is the fast of one who becomes junub in his sleep, whether at night or during the day. There is nothing wrong with delaying ghusl until just before dawn. Rather fasting is invalidated by having intercourse during the day in Ramadaan, from just before dawn until after sunset.
IslamQA
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Question:

If a woman’s period or nifaas stops straight after Fajr, should she refrain from eating and fast that day? Will it be counted as a fast or does she have to make it up later?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

If her bleeding stops at the time of sunrise or shortly before, then her fast is valid and will count as one of the obligatory fasts, even if she does not do ghusl until after morning comes. But if it did not stop until after dawn had broken, then she should refrain from eating during that day, but it will not count as a fast and she will have to make it up after Ramadaan.

Islam QA.com)
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Hope this helps
Your Sis in Islaam
Jenna :-)
Re: Fasting and your period
eleanor
12/12/01 at 06:44:40
slm

Jazak Allahu Khayrun Sister Jenna!!!! Thanks a million Ukhti!

wasalaam
eleanor
Re: Fasting and your period
Jenna
12/12/01 at 17:55:36
[wlm]

 WaIyyakee Sis!! Gald to help ;-D ;-D

Jenna
Re: Fasting and your period
Ruqayyah
12/15/01 at 00:10:39
[slm]

wow, i kept looking for this under another subject heading, and was surprised to find my own post here in the Ramadan courtyard, where it rightfull belongs :) and 9 responses too!  Thank you so much for the advice and for the reasoning behind it, i appreciate it :)  

[wlm]
Ruqayyah


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