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excellent book
gift
12/11/01 at 04:50:52
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i have just finished reading a translation of ibn taymiyyah's essay on servitude - it was wow:o :o very deep.

maliha - you seem to be a deep thinker this may be one for u :)

it's an excellent book, containing not only the description of how a true 'abd (servant) of Allah swt should behave. it was very inspiring, and it really makes u think and question all your actions even after you've finished reading.

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Re: excellent book
Mystic
12/13/01 at 14:06:50
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maliha - you seem to be a deep thinker this may be one for u :)
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I am not deep...i jus' find creative wayz to confuse myself???

Shukran gift though:) i was actually looking for something along these lines...for a good "right after Ramadhan" read:):):)
It will be cool to discuss after i'm done with it:-)

Jazaki Allahu Khayran :-)

Maliha
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Re: excellent book
proudtobemuslim
01/16/02 at 11:10:19
Assalamu Alaikum,

This is late but I was just going through some of the old threads which still had 'new' on them.

Anyway, are you referring to that book called Ibn Taymiyyah's Essay on Servitude, published ( I think) by Al-Hidayah?  If so, well, i guess it didn't affect me as much as it apparently did to you.  It just seemed to me that the book wasn't translated very well and I kept ending up with too many questions by the end of every chapter or so.  The english was just not very readable.  Sometimes I'd have to read over and over again to grasp a simple concept.  I remember that I found it pretty useful for certain non-abstract and concrete divisions (such as the different levels of love) but overall I had to put it down halfway through.

Thanks for posting though... I'm looking for a new good book myself.

Wassalamu Alaikum,
Uzer
Re: excellent book
assing
01/16/02 at 19:23:25
As salaamu alaykum,  i myself did not read the book, but i was listening to some lectures by shaikh Abdur Rahman Al Mahmood about qada' and qadr {he is an associate professor of aqidah at Imam Ibn Saud University, not many people have heard of him but if you listen to his tapes you will swear that al he knows about is aqidah. I remember i met some brothers from Saudi who came during ramadan and i asked them about him, they told me they refer to his as the walking library}. Anyways at the end of each lecture someone would read and he would a commentary on the book  "servitude" by ibn Taymiyyah, and man i was hooked it, it listen to itover about three times, it's great. The point that i would like to make many books in arabic are very beneficial, but if there is no one to explain for you, half or more of the books benefit will pass you by. And this is what happen to me with the book "Kitaab At Taweed", i had it there sitting, i glimplsed through it a few time, however, i was like why those ulama in saudi kill this book with explaination. You will hardly find a prominent shaikh from Saudi execpt that they have an explaination for this book, either in tape form or book. shaikh Ibn Baz, shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen, shaikh Saalih Al Fawzan.............may Allah have mercy upon them all, they all have an explaination for this book. It was not until i listened to the explaination of  "Kitaab At Taweed" by shaikh Abdul Aziz Aali Shaykh, i was like maan this book is banging, it has many good points a person learn from, not just Tawheed, but you find in it hadeeth, fiqh, seerah, tafseer, everything. So, this is one this we must keep in mind whenever we read books, it may be highly touted but to get the true treasures from a book one needs an explaination of that particular book by a person who studied the book to reap the full benefits of that book, {its like trying to learn tajweed on your own}. And this is something unfortunatley unavailable in the English speaker except in very rear instances.
          Also people who read arabic have a hard time understanding many of Ibn Taymiyyah's work, so how you think an english speaker will fear?????! This is why shaikh Abdul Aziz Aali Shaykh has a lecture entitled "How to read the books of Ibn Taymiyyah". And one of the things he mentions is that Ibn Taymiyyah like an ocean of kknowledge, his memory was like a search engine. Hence, when  read his books i often find him tangenting off to a whohe next topic without having completed the one at hand. And i guess this is what happen to some of you, e.g. i will be reading his book and i would notice a footnote: *this is the topic he was originally discussing 50 pages back, and you you swear it is a whole other topic he his discussing, due to his vast knowledge, may Allah have mercy upon him. The shaikh also mentioned Ibn Taymiyyah's some of his books like those of aqeedah should be read in levels, i.e. if one tries to read the aqeedah of "Hamawiyyah" before "Waasiteyah" one will be confused for the latter is more simplistic and the former is for the one who has a more advanced background when it comes to aqeedah. Also many times Ibn Taymiyyah's books are written in refutation of certain deviant groups (in this case the extreme sufis, whereby seeks to refute and explain to them what ibaadah truly means). Thus, if one does not have a background of the groups he is refuting you will be lost as to the basis of his arguments and refutation.

ps# Arshad i sympathize with you, what can i say? This happens to us all, but know for sure Allah is the one who provides.          
NS


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