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| Ruqayyah |
| 12/19/01 at 22:19:55 |
| [slm] I had a question: Are non-muslim females allowed to go to the mosque and touch the Qur'an when they have their period? thanks :) [wlm] Ruqayyah |
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| M.F. |
| 12/20/01 at 06:51:08 |
| Assalamu alaikum, From what I know, the Prophet (S) forbade MUSLIM women from going into the mosque when they had their period unless they were just passing through (or on a journey). As for touching the Qur'an, I don't know. I don't think any women can touch it when they have their period, at least that's what most people believe, although there are a few who say you can. I don't know about non-Muslims touching it. |
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| akbalkhan |
| 12/20/01 at 07:26:52 |
| From Abu-Dawud- Book 1, Number 0232: Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) came and saw that the doors of the houses of his Companions were facing the mosque. He said: Turn the direction of the houses from the mosque. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) then entered (the houses or the mosque), and the people did take any step in this regard hoping that some concession might be revealed. He the Prophet) again came upon them and said: Turn the direction of these (doors) from the mosque I do not make the mosque lawful for a menstruating woman and for a person who is sexually defiled. *********** Touching the Quran can be a source of misfortune and a curse upon those who are not purified, or who are unbelievers. We, even as Muslims are recommended to not even travel through the kafr land with the Quran, in the event that some might try to take it and defile it, according to some people. However, given the benefit and reward of the reading the Quran, if someone were to acquire a translation of the Quran in English, that did not have any Arabic text or transliteration, this may be less disrespectful. Perhaps it is more important to seize the time that someone is interested in reading the Quran, then to observe all the proper adab. However.... Proper adab is the most important thing. If adab is not taken towards the Quran, then there is a great chance that there will be much confusion in the reading, and no aid from the unseen in understanding it, at least that's my opinion. Regards, QAK |
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| Kathy |
| 12/20/01 at 09:10:53 |
| slm When masjiids have open houses to the public- is anyone asking the women if they have their menses? |
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| akbalkhan |
| 12/20/01 at 10:46:23 |
| As Salamu Alayka, Sr. Kathy, No. But the masjids were not meant to be tourists destinations either. There is a hadith to the effect that when the end time draws near, the masjids will be visited by some who have not come to pray. People should do their best to learn about the adab of visiting a masjid before going for a prolonged visit. Or Muslims escorting non-Muslims should do their best to inform their guest. Perhaps the same women on this board who have no qualms about discussing their menses in semi-public areas should make an effort to approach those women who visit masjids that appear non-Muslim or uninformed if they are having their menses, and then guide them accordingly? The hadith is clear, and we all have a duty to enjoin others to do what is lawful and to forbid what is unlawful. There is another hadith that, in so many words, says that Umar ibn Khattab, RA, ordered that for those who wish to talk loudly or recite poetry, they should go to a different room of the masjid. If people want to have open houses, or invite non-Muslims in the community to visit, then this should occur in non-Salaat areas of the masjid, so as not to disrupt anyone who may decide to perform salaat, doing itikaf, or to not have to impose restrictions on visitors who may possibly be in menses. Just a suggestion. Regards, QAK |
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| assing |
| 12/20/01 at 13:11:12 |
| As salaamu alaykum, the following is is a fatwa from shaikh Saalih Al Munnajid {www.islam-qa.com} about a non-muslim women touching the Quran during her periods under the title: Clever guess on the part of a Christian woman Assalamu Alaikum, I am a Christian who is very interested in Islam and I am currently reading a translation of the Koran in my language. I know that women should not touch the Koran while having their menses but since translations are not regarded as the word of God and therefore not equal to the Arabic text, I'd like to know if not touching the Koran during menses also applies to translations. Thank you very much for your help. Answer: Praise be to Allaah. You have hit the nail on the head: your guess is correct. A translation is not like the Mus-haf (Arabic text of the Qur’aan) and the same rules do not apply. A translation is like a tafseer (commentary), and so a menstruating woman is allowed to touch it. Your analysis of this matter demonstrates astute reasoning and excellent thinking skills, which makes us feel that you will soon embrace Islam; may Allaah guide you to all good. And as for they entering the masjid: Question: In America there is a mosque which consists of three levels or floors. The top floor is the women’s prayer hall, the floor beneath it is the main prayer hall, and the floor beneath that is a kind of basement, in which there are washrooms, a room for Islamic magazines and publications, and classrooms for women; there is also an extra place for women to pray. Is it permissible for menstruating women to enter this lower level? Also, there are pillars in the mosque which interrupt the rows of worshippers, splitting a row into two halves. Does this break the row or not? Answer: Praise be to Allaah. If the building you describe was intended as a mosque, and the people on the higher and lower floors can hear the voice of the Imaam, then the prayer of all of them is valid. In this case it is not permissible for menstruating women to sit in the place that is prepared for prayer in the lower level, because it is part of the mosque. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I do not make the mosque permissible for menstruating women and those in a state of ritual impurity.” As for a menstruating woman passing through the mosque for some purpose, as long as she takes care to ensure that no blood leaks, then there is nothing wrong with this, because Allâh says (interpretation of the meaning): “… Approach not As-Salaah (the prayer)… when you are in a state of Janaabah (i.e., when you are in a state of sexual impurity and have not yet taken a bath) except when travelling on the road (without enough water, or when passing through a mosque)…” [al-Nisa’ 4:43] And it was reported that the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told ‘Aa’ishah to fetch his prayer rug from the mosque, and she said that she was menstruating. He SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told her: “Your menstruation is not in your hand.” But if it was not the intention of those who established this mosque that the lower floor was to be part of the mosque, but it was to be a storeroom or to serve some other purpose, as mentioned in the question, then it does not come under the rulings governing mosques. It is permissible for menstruating woman and those who are in a state of impurity to sit there. There is nothing wrong with praying there in the places that are pure (taahir) and are not part of the washrooms, as it is permissible to pray in all clean places where there is no shar’i reason not to pray. But anyone who prays there cannot be considered to be following the imaam who is praying on the upper floor, if he cannot see him or any of the people who are praying behind him, and because this is not a part of the mosque, according to the more correct scholarly opinion. With regard to the pillars which interrupt the rows, they do not adversely affect the prayer, but if it is possible to form the rows in front of or behind the pillars so that the row will not be interrupted, this is better. And Allaah is the source of strength. Shaykh Ibn Baaz Fataawa Islamiyyah. |
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| lightningatnite |
| 12/20/01 at 15:50:26 |
| Salam :) A couple things, inshaAllah, I hope they help... What we refer to in English as a Qur'an is not what is meant in Arabic by a Musshhaf. What most shayukh in this country say, a book that contains more words of commentary than of actual verses of Quran does not count as a musshhaf. They are really a tafseer, and it is ok to give them to non-muslims or for mensturating women to touch them. So, the average Yusuf Ali 'Quran' should be fine, inshaAllah. However, there is a difference of opinion on this subject. About entering a Masjid, again, what we refer to as a Mosque in English is not only a Masjid. Most 'mosques' also have dining halls, kitchens, classrooms, etc. These areas do not count as 'Masjid' in the opinion of many scholars, and may be accessed freely. salam :) |
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| lightningatnite |
| 12/20/01 at 15:53:28 |
| Salam, Oh man, Hisham, you got me beat...didn't see your answer... |
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