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| Does anyone ever get tired of ??? |
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| Caraj |
| 12/23/01 at 03:15:44 |
| Does anyone ever get tired of all the hatred? I want so much to do my part to show Peace and Love and Mercy and Kindness but I sometimes feel like I can't make a difference. I just came from several Islamic chat rooms in Yahoo and I am in tears. So many Americans are so rude and hateful and so many Muslims doing the same. I even had a man from my own country call me filthy things when I asked him nicely to not be rude. I can't take much more of this. Do I need to get rid of my pc and go hide my head in the sand? If I go off to myself and live my days out and do not show the Love and Mercy God/Allah has shown me I will be no better than them. Yet I am always so upset by this hatred and anger it actually makes me physically ill. I hope you don't mind my sharing this here in Jannah. I just thought some of you would understand. I am in tears as I type this. I am so tired of the anger and the hatred. May God/Allah have mercy on us all. |
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| kareema |
| 12/23/01 at 03:30:02 |
| Hi, I'm sorry about your experience, I think there should be some sort of 'warning' label on such chatrooms! I myself tried those types of'Islamic' chatrooms, but left after I saw that somehow the loudest, most ignorant and rudest always seemed to win the debate, or rather, they made the dialogue irrelevant. Part of the problem is you don't have much time to write and educated reply. Many of those people aren't interested in dialogue or understanding, they just want to push buttons and spew their feelings, which if they said in any public setting, some of which would get them arrested/fired, etc. I suggest you stay on Jannah or other moderated boards, they really help to filter out some of that. Not that I'n an enemy of free speech for the most part, but people step far past the lines sometimes. Maybe you should try to meet some Muslims in your area? |
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| abdul_Mutali |
| 12/23/01 at 03:42:39 |
| As salamu alaykum I just think we shouldnt get angry or sad when we hear those ppl who has nothing better to do but go to islamic rooms and be rude to muslims.We should just ignore them.I dont know if some of u go to paltalk or not,there I once heard something that made me angry. A guy there questioning the charecter of the Prophet(saw) and attacking islam,anyways I told the operator of the room to bounce that guy,but the operator wont do it and the reason he gave was we are moderate ppl. I dont think we have to be moderate towards ppl who work against islam.Lets be moderate with muslims and ppl inclined to Islam. If we are steadfast then InshAllah victory is ours. |
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| NewJehad |
| 12/23/01 at 14:33:40 |
| People don't mean what they say in chat rooms. you don't know who they are, so a lot of people just go their to have fun, and unfortunatly a lot of people find it great fun to insult each other. in chat rooms they can cause no one knows who they are. |
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| Caraj |
| 12/23/01 at 17:46:47 |
| NewJehad, these people meant what they were saying, believe me. And when they found out I was an American woman and what my husband did for work they turned on me and I was called things I cannot even say here. I was verbally ripped apart for defending Muslims. I'm so thankful my husband doesn't feel that way about me and respects and allows me to have my own feelings and opinions. In the chat room I could hear their voices. I have always had a feel for a person by looking in their eyes, facial expressions but especilly listening to their voice. (Not on their words) The voices were filled with hate. You know till sept 11 I was able to go into Islamic chat rooms and learn and talk to folks. Now it seems the WORST example of my country is in those rooms spreading hate. I pray Muslims don't think all Americans are like this as I know Muslims I talk to there in the rooms hope we do not think what hatefulness we hear reflects Muslims and Islam. The whole thing actually sickens me and stresses me. On both ends I wonder how these people were raised??? I thought, as parents we should teach love and kindness and respect for others. How did theses people's parents raise them I wonder? I don't agree with many things I hear at times, but I would NEVER ever talk to a person so hatefully and with insults. I would explain my opinion, listen to theirs and if it goes against everything I feel is true and right I let them know I do not agree and explain why if they want to listen but respect that they have feelings on the matter also. Then if it is a problem you walk away. You do not call names and spread hatred. The same God/Allah that gave me a brain also gave them a brain. One thing that made me so mad was them saying Muslim men are wife beaters. I told them to please fo visit their local women's shelter here in the US that rage to hurt anyone was not culture specific. There is a womens shelter for battered women in almost every large city in the US and most are filled. Domestic violence is not contained in or limited to any one culture. This whole thing sickens me, but it must of been stress and anger and sadness when I typed this thread cause I slept almost 12 hours on and off after. Now I have rested I am ready to take on the task of (with the Lords help) of spreading peace, mercy, love and kindness through my actions and words. But I have to admit sometimes I'd like to put these mean people over my knee and spank them as a mother would her very naughty child :) |
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| Rashid |
| 12/23/01 at 23:01:11 |
| [slm] Cara, The Prophet [saw] advised us that "that which leads to the forbidden is also forbidden" Now I know you're not a Muslim (outwardly at least) but I can see that your heart is drawing closer to Islam. For example you say you were defending Muslims, this is a clear sign from Allah. Such a thing is rare nowadays, a non-Muslim defending Muslims. Furthermore, when you say you want to do your part to show Peace, Love, Mercy, and Kindness, these are qualities that sadly are lacking from some of us, even those who were born into Islam. The fact that you want to manifest these qualities is also a clear sign from Allah, for the Prophet [saw] also taught us to show mercy to all living creatures, so that Allah may show mercy to us. So I would advise you to stay away from all chat rooms, which are a tremendous waste of time and nothing of benefit can be gained in them. This is why I wrote about the Prophet's [saw] advice up top, because going to chat rooms leads to forbidden things like idle talk, wasting time, needless arguing, cursing, etc. Even if you are not doing these things, others are and by you being in this environment it will influence you, or worse, lead to the feelings of despair you are experiencing now. There are so many better things to do than going to chat rooms, for example: Reading books, volunteering, cleaning the house, praying, and posting on jannah.org (wow I just summarized my whole life) :) [wlm] |
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| Tasnim |
| 12/24/01 at 01:47:48 |
| Cara, simple minded ppl always look for the simpliest solution. The guys who spread out their hatred haven't the mental ability to think in more complex way. They see only black and white, good and bad! And who would count himself to the bad fraction? They just justify their prejudices... I'm german, born in 64. And till today here are some ppl who think that my generation should bleed for the holocaust our grandfathers did. It is nothing but collective custody. What do I want to say? I'm definately not a Nazi,but some ppl think I must be one coz I'm german... Cara, we cannot change the world, only ourselves! Lets start with it! merry x-mas to you and many salams Tasnim |
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