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I can't keep my wudu
Anonymous

12/27/01 at 01:50:18

salaam,

I have a problem and I was hoping I can get some naseeha on this
matter.

The thing is I can never keep my wudu for a decent amount of time
without it breaking due to err umm natural causes. It's quite frustrating
and no it's not medical. Sometimes, I look at it as a mercy from Allah
because I'm constantly having to renew my wudu perhaps my sins are
always being cleansed. But it's also very tyring on my patience.
Sometimes I don't get much ibaadah done. There are times where I have to make
my wudu 4-5 times just to finish one salaah. Many times I'll sit down
to read Quraan but keep losing my wudu so I just give up. Perhaps,
this will train me to be a patient person Allahu Alaam but sometimes I
just can't take it anymore. Even while praying in jamah I lose it, it's
quite embarrasing. I dont' know what to do anymore.

ok, I'm done I just had to vent.

Re: I can't keep my wudu
Kashif

12/27/01 at 04:51:00

assalaamu alaikum

You just had to vent? haha...

Anyhow, take a look at your diet. You may be eating too much of foods that make you want to pass wind: beans and stuff in particular are famous for that.

Kashif
Wa Salaam

NS
Re: I can't keep my wudu
Marcie

12/27/01 at 12:16:40

As salamu alaykum,

Have you ever thought that you might have food allergies? Many people are lactose (milk products) intolerant. Try avoiding these foods for a few days and see what happens.

As salamu alaykum
Marcie

Re: I can't keep my wudu
humble_muslim

12/27/01 at 14:01:18

AA

Don't worry, akhi/ukthi. Islam is easy. Just make a fresh wudu when the time for each salat enters.

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Question Reference Number:: 2723
Title: An incontinent person should make a new wudoo' for each obligatory prayer

Home > Jurisprudence and Islamic Rulings > Acts of Worship > Purity >
Question:

I understand that a person who finds it difficult to remain tahir due to circumstances beyond
their control, eg urination problem etc it is not necessary to continually clean up if it is too much
of a strain and the person should do fresh wudo before every prayer. What if the prayer for
some reason is prayed late eg if 'Asr is done 30 minutes before Maghrib, is a fresh wudo for
maghrib necessary for this small time gap? Also if one does wudo for Juma'h prayer one hour
early and sits in the mosque waiting for prayer is this wudo adequate or is another one
necessary, if it is alright then will the wudo last all the way until just before 'Asr time?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

The person who is suffering from incontinence should make a new and separate
wudoo' for each prayer when the time comes, even if he has just made wudoo' for
another prayer a short time before. This is because the Prophet taught the
woman who suffers from istihaadah (prolonged non-menstrual vaginal bleeding)
to do this. `Aa'ishah said: "Faatimah bint Abi Hubaysh came to the Prophet (peace
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: `O Messenger of Allaah, I am a
woman who experiences istihaadah and I do not become clean from bleeding.
Should I forget about salaah?' He said: `No, that is from a vein; it is not menses. When
your period starts, then stop praying, and when it ends, wash the blood from your
body and pray again.'" Abu Mu'aawiyah said in his hadeeth: "He said: `Do wudoo' for
each prayer, until the time for the next prayer comes...'" Abu `Eesaa said: "The
hadeeth of `Aa'ishah is a saheeh hasan hadeeth, and this is the opinion of more than
one scholar among the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him) and the Taabi'een. It is also the opinion of Sufyaan al-Thawri,
Maalik, Ibn al-Mubaarak and al-Shaafi'i that when the woman who suffers from
istihaadah finishes her regular period, she should do ghusl, then do wudoo' for
each prayer." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 116; the hadeeth was reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 221).

Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "The ruling on non-menstrual
blood (istihaadah) is the same as the ruling on anything that breaks wudoo': she
should do wudoo' for each prayer, but she should not pray more than one fard
prayer with that wudoo', whether she is praying on time or is making up the prayer
later, because of the apparent meaning of the hadeeth, "You should do wudoo' for
each prayer." This is the opinion of the majority of scholars. (Fath al-Baari, Kitaab
al-hayd, Bab al-istihaadah). The same ruling applies to the person who suffers from
continual incontinence or wind. You can pray as many naafil prayers as you like
with the wudoo' you made for a fard prayer, until the time for that fard prayer is
over. And Allaah knows best.

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Re: I can't keep my wudu
Jenna

12/27/01 at 15:04:34

УThe Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about a man who felt something during his prayer Ц should he stop praying? He said, СNo, not unless you hear a sound or detect an odour.ТФ (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1915; Muslim, 540).

Jenna :-)

Re: I can't keep my wudu
Anonymous

12/28/01 at 00:45:06

[slm]

Dear Anon, I can empathise with you. I went thru the same thing, only
with me it was as a result of medication i was taking.

The best advice I can offer is water, water and more water...and top
that up with even more sabr.

Insha-Allah, all your attempts will not be in vain. Allah [swt]
doesn't give us more burdens than what He knows we can handle.

I KNOW this can REALLY try your patience...and sometimes you REALLY
wanna pull your hair out.

Patience - Duah and [color=red][u]Water!!!!!!![/color][/u]

Keep away from stuff like cabbage, beans and carbonated cool drinks. ;)

You are stronger than this...believe in that!

:-)
[wlm]

Re: I can't keep my wudu
proudtobemuslim

12/28/01 at 08:34:00

Assalamu Alaikum,

Dear Anon.

The advice from the above posts is good and you should adopt it. I just wanted to add one thing.

Sometimes nothing happens at all and it is simply Shaitaan who is whispering to you. You must remember that when this happens you must remember the above mentioned Hadith where you are not to stop your Salah except and unless you hear a sound or smell an odor. As far as I know this includes positions outside of Salah as well, the principle being that suspicion can not take the place of certainty under ANY circumstances.

Akhi, please do inform us if you are able to control yourself or whether the problem continues. Insha-Allah we'll be waiting for your reply.

Re: I can't keep my wudu
Anonymous

12/30/01 at 00:37:51

salaam everyone I'm back,

Kashif: Thanks for your advice. I'm going to look into my diet more
closely now. I'm definitely not a fan of beans so I doubt that's the
problem. :)

Marcie: No, I never thought about food allergies. I drink loads of
milk, oh I just can't live without it. I sort of considering now going to
a Muslim doctor. Someone who will emphatise with me :(

Humble_Muslim: Thank you for the fatwa you posted. Yes, I usually end
up making a fresh wudu several times. grrrrr

Jenna: Thank you for the hadeeth. I'd like to comment on that (look
further down)

Anonymous #2: May Allah grant you sabr, I can say I know how it feels.
I'm not much of water drinker. Perhaps I should increase my intake it
seems like it helped you out so far.

Proudtobemuslim: okay, this is my comment now about that hadeeth. I
have read it before but I feel that it doesn't apply for me. See, all
throughout the day I'm constantly having umm...my problem. It's almost
impossible for me to stay in wudu from one prayer to the next or
sometimes even an hour or so. So, I 'm constantly passing umm _ _ _ (gosh I'm
so embarraed ).

It happens quite often in my prayer but I don't think it's shaytaan
waswasah I truly believe it's me losing my wudu. Since it happens to me
so often I just feel like I know i'm losing it.

Also, another thing. I would be surprised if it was diet. I don't
really take any of the foods mentioned above except for milk. The thing
is my mom had the *exact* same problem as me only hers was worse AND she
wasn't a milk drinker at all.

This problem of mine stems from childhood. As far back as I can
remember it's been happening to me.

Sooo, now I truly think it's genetic and something I just have to live
with. Allahu Alam. jazak Allah everyone for taking the time out to
try to help. :) :)

Re: I can't keep my wudu
bhaloo

12/30/01 at 00:59:22

slm

Anonymous, insha'Allah this should help you with your venting problems.

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http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/digest/pubs/gas/gas.htm
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Re: I can't keep my wudu
Hajreee

12/30/01 at 01:16:23

Salaams!

Hiya Anon, inshaAllah all is well with you!

but i just wanted to agree...well, actually, STRONGLY agree with the person, *hmm, i forgot who it was* that you should drink LOTS AND LOTS of water...water is a miracle worker...it's good, it cleanses your system and perhaps it can help your problem :)

also, why not try taking a couple of black seeds..there's that hadeeth, well i'm not sure if it's a hadeeth or not, but it says how black seed can cure everything but death...so try that out :)

i hope all goes well, and don't worry about it! inshaAllah your problem will dissolve and you won't have to end up making wudu so often...

but i must say...you're getting alot of ajer doing your wudu again and again :) i would say it's a blessing! i know it's frustrating, but think of the good deeds you're gaining =)

okee dokee! do the water thingy!!!

take care!

Wa Salaams

Re: I can't keep my wudu
kiwi25

12/30/01 at 15:16:54

salam,

i hope everything goes well for you anon inshallah

are you sure its not medically related,

im a diabetic and one of the symptons for diabetes is that your have to use the bathroom a whole lot!

so maybe u should check with your doctor just i case.....

wasalam
nouha:)

Re: I can't keep my wudu
Anonymous

12/30/01 at 15:35:34

Assalamu'alaikum

This may sound funny, but it's a serious question.

What about passing wind...but it's not from the back passage - but the
front or the middle (I'm not sure where, but definitely not from the
back).

[i](do I hear snickers?):p[/i]

And for this one, it's difficult to control unlike passing wind from
the back passage.

I mean, everything would go on fine, with keeping the wudu, but when
one does the ruku or sujud, or some movement, it suddenlly goes off.

I heard some sisters do experience this.

Hope someone can help with this. What should one do?

Jazakallah. Thanks.
Re: I can't keep my wudu
proudtobemuslim

12/31/01 at 08:49:37

Assalamu Alaikum,

Dear Anons.,

For the earlier anon., I strongly suggest you see a doctor in this case. You don't have anything to lose and you may well have some kind of allergy or disease (allergy may not necessarily involve jus milk and beans).

For the second Anon. if what you mean by passing wind from the front or middle is by the sounds that are generated by your bowel then as far as I know that does not affect your wudu unless you smell something and become sure that you passed wind.

Wassalamu Alaikum,
Uzer

Re: I can't keep my wudu
amatullah

12/31/01 at 15:54:18

Bismillah and salam,
anon2, i read it many times in Arabic sites that it doesn't break your wudu. Here is one i can find in English, see at the end:

Question:

Ech time i make wudoo ,i keep getting this uncomfortable feeling in my vagina and anus.I dont exactly pass wind , but nevertheless , i feel some sort of wind inside the private parts , which do not leave the private parts.Because of this ,should i keep repeating my wodoo.It is very difficult for me , as i continually get this problem , and i do my wuzzu at least 5 timess b4 praying just one of my salats.Does this uncomfortable feeling break my wuzu.?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

A person should not stop praying unless he is certain that something has come out of him, He should not pay attention to these whispers because they come from the Shaytaan. Hence al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) gave one chapter (of his Saheeh) the title, УOne should not do wudooТ based on doubt until one is certain,Ф in which is narrated the hadeeth of СAbbaad ibn Tameem from his paternal uncle, that a man complained to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that he imagined that he felt something whilst praying. He said: УDo not stop (praying) unless you hear a sound or notice a smell.Ф (al-WudooТ, 134). None of these whispers and thoughts break oneТs wudooТ.

But if a person is certain that something has come out of him, then in this case his wudooТ is broken. If a person is faced with such whispers, he has to ignore them and assume that he is taahir (pure), because if he thinks too much about this matter, the whispers will persist.

With regard to wind emitted from a womanТs vagina, this does not break wudooТ. The Standing Committee was asked about wind being passed from a womanТs vagina during prayer. They replied that this does not break wudooТ because it does not come from an impure site, unlike wind that comes from the anus.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-DaaТimah, 5/259. (www.islam-qa.com)

Re: I can't keep my wudu
se7en

01/01/02 at 22:00:53

as salaamu alaykum,

Woah! Okay.. I understand that these are legitimate questions, and of course la haya fid deen, but some have expressed to me their dislike at having such.. graphic things posted here.

I think inshaAllah a lot of these questions have been answered adequately. In the future perhaps it might be a better idea to pose these questions to your imam, or to one of these online fatawa places..

Jazakam Allahu khayran.

wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah.

Re: I can't keep my wudu
se7en

01/01/02 at 22:00:54

as salaamu alaykum,

Woah! Okay.. I understand that these are legitimate questions, and of course la haya fid deen, but some have expressed to me their dislike at having such.. graphic things posted here.

I think inshaAllah a lot of these questions have been answered adequately. In the future perhaps it might be a better idea to pose these questions to your imam, or to one of these online fatawa places..

Jazakam Allahu khayran.

wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah.

Re: I can't keep my wudu
amatullah

01/02/02 at 15:17:06

Bismillah and salam,

Anon. 1: Me and husband were talking abuot this thread and he taught me there is a hadeeth that means unless you hear and/or smell something then don't think your wudu is nullified. There is a shaitan, wal3eyathu billah, whose job is especialy to distract the people of their worship by making them think they nullified their wudu by blowing in that area.

Sr. seven: I fear it is unfair to ask that of a person. It is more preserving for their haya (modesty) to use anonymous in internet than to talk to the an imam face to face whom they will have many encouters with on different occassions about something which is embaressing.
Anon. perhaps you can use other boards to ask or even like seven suggested is good advice to ask at the fatwas online like islamonline.org or wahtever.

For the who complained about it being graphic please consider the example of those who are better than us. Think the women at the time of the prophet saws when they were not sure if their period ended so they can start their fast would use a cotton and then send it to Aisha to look at and tell them. Those are people who are so keen on learning their deen that would do that. They must have been embaressed too, but it is more important to not miss prayers because of misunderstandings.

We should be helping each other with matters of deen.

There is a hadeeth аthat means the deen gets lost between two things: being arrogant (to ask) and too shy
Re: I can't keep my wudu
Anonymous

01/05/02 at 02:06:28

Salaam,

I apologise if my post was distasteful. I didn't mean it that way, and
I took precaution to have it posted in a respectful way. Afwan.

And shukran to Sis Amatullah and Br Uzer, for replying to my question.

Sis Amatullah, you spoke what I had in mind to say. Jazakillah :)

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