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| Salatul Tasbeeh. |
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| Maliha |
| 03/05/02 at 14:08:01 |
| [slm] I think it was during Ramadhan in the Ramadhan folder, someone posted Salatul Tasbeeh (supposed to be a prayer of great virtue, one that cleanses all sins...etc). Anyway, I found this on Islam-qa that says it's probably fabricated :( Question: Is there a hadith that supports Salat Ul-Tasaabeeh? If so, what is the reference? Answer: Praise be to Allaah. There are ahaadeeth concerning Salaat al-Tasaabeeh which are attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and which were classed as hasan by some of the scholars, but may scholars said that they are da’eef (weak) and that this prayer is not prescribed in Islam. The Standing Committee was asked about Salaat al-Tasaabeeh, and they answered: Salaat al-Tasaabeeh is a bid’ah (innovation) and the hadeeth concerning it is not proven, rather it is munkar. Some of the scholars mentioned it among the mawdoo’ (fabricated) ahaadeeth. See Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, vol. 8, p. 163 Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said: Salaat al-Tasaabeeh is not prescribed, because the hadeeth is da’eef (weak). Imaam Ahmad said there is no sound evidence for it. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said it is a fabrication, and he said that none of the imaams recommended it. He (may Allaah have mercy on him) spoke the truth, because whoever examines this prayer will find that it is odd in the way it is performed … Moreover, if it were prescribed, it would have been something that was reported in many reports because of its great virtue and reward. Since there are no such reports and none of the imaams described it as being recommended, we know that it is not proven. The oddness in the way in which it is performed is as described in the hadeeth narrated concerning it, which says that it is to be performed once every day, or once every week, or once every month, or once every year, or once in a lifetime. This indicates that these reports are not sound; if it were prescribed, it would be something to be done on a regular basis, and one would not be given such a variety of options. On this basis, people should not do this prayer. And Allaah knows best. [wlm] |
| Re: Salatul Tasbeeh. |
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| Marcie |
| 03/05/02 at 16:05:02 |
| [color=Teal] [slm] Uhkti Maliha, I don't mean to sound dumb, but which sunnah prayer is the salatul Tasbeeh? I don't always know the terms in Arabic. Jazakum Allah Khair. :-* [wlm] Marcie :-)[/color] |
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| Maliha |
| 03/07/02 at 08:09:45 |
| [slm] Sorry Marcie, I was trying to find the original post but wasn't able to locate it. It was supposed to be derived from a hadith that stated you either performed this prayer once a day, if not at least once a week, if not at least once a month, if not a year, if not at least once in a lifetime. It had a specific way of praying it, which was different from the way we normally pray....The virtues associated with it are great too...Cleanses your sins etc. But according to the above, it seems like the hadith is weak and the suggestion is not to pray it anyway :( [wlm] |
| Re: Salatul Tasbeeh. |
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| Abd_al-Rashid |
| 03/07/02 at 08:26:45 |
| [slm] Salatul Tasbeeh is the salat of praise, we prayed it last Ramadan too. It consists of an even number of rakaah, and before going into ruku you say "subhana'Allah walhamdulilah wa la ilaha illa Allah wa Allahu Akbar" 10 times, then coming back up from ruku, then in sajdah, the sitting between the sajdah, and so on. This is the first time I've come across this info, jazakillah for sharing, I'll ask my local shaykh about it. [wlm] |
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| jannah |
| 03/07/02 at 15:38:20 |
| salam, cara: salatul tasbeeh is a special kind of prayer... there are different kinds of prayer for different things sometimes.. ie rain prayer, funeral prayer etc there is a difference of opinion on this issue. and i think this brings up an issue: when cutting and pasting from QandA sites/fatwas/someone's research etc.--- it's always going to be one perspective and opinion and doesn't always tell the whole story and doesn't tell how the evidence was weighed, how something is authentic or not and sometimes we don't even know who wrote it! so as always contact someone learned you trust and ask them about it inshallah!! |
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| bhaloo |
| 03/07/02 at 15:51:15 |
| [slm] I know I had a discussion on this salatul-tasbih with some brothers, and the response from Sheikh Uthaimeen (may Allah (SWT) have mercy on his soul) was presented (which is what was included from the islam-qa.com site) and then there was this response in fiqh us sunnah. I forgot what the conclusion was from that discussion and I can't find the emails now, sorry. Fiqh-us-Sunnah Fiqh 2.33 Salatul Tasbih 'Ikrimah reports from Ibn 'Abbas that the Messenger of Allah said to 'Abbas ibn 'Abdal-Mutalib: "O 'Abbas, O Uncle, shall I not give you, shall I not present to you, shall I not donate to you, shall I not tell you ten things which, if you do, Allah will forgive your first and last sins, past and present sins, intentional and unintentional sins, private and public sins? The ten actions are: pray four rak'at, reciting in every rak'ah al-Fatihah and a surah. And when you finish the Qur'anic recitation of the first rak'ah, say, while standing, 'Subhanallah, al-hamdulillah, wa la ilaha illallah, wa Allahu Akbar' ['Glory be to Allah. All praise is due to Allah. There is no God except Allah. Allah is the greatest.'] fifteen times. Then make ruku', and while you are in ruku', say the same ten times; then stand, and say the same ten times. Then go down and make sajdah, and while you're in sajdah, say the same ten times. Then sit after the sajdah, and say the same ten times. Then make sajdah, and say the same ten times. Then sit after the second sajdah, and say the same another ten times. That is seventy-five [repetitions of the phrases] in each rak'ah. Do that in each of the four rak'at. If you can pray it once a day, do so. If you cannot, then once every Friday. If you cannot do that, then once a year. And if you cannot do that then once in your life." This is related by Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, Ibn Khuzaimah in his sahih, and at-Tabarani. About this hadith al-Mundhiri says: "This hadith has been related through many chains and from a number of companions. The best of them is this one from 'Ikrimah. A group of scholars have graded it to be sahih, including al-Hafez Abu Bakr al-'Ajari, (al-Mundhiri's teachers), Abu Muhammad 'Abdurrahim al-Misri, and Abu al-Hassan al-Maqdisi." Ibn alMubarak says: "The tasbih prayer is a greatly desired act and it is desirable that one should punctually observe it and never neglect it. |
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| eleanor |
| 03/08/02 at 06:26:33 |
| [slm] So what's the concensus??? It sounds like a great opportunity to get a bit more forgiveness and mercy!! Is it a sin to do it "on spec'" ? ie I do it and if it's accepted okay and if not well I had nothing to lose anyway? wasalaam eleanor ??? |
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| Maliha |
| 03/08/02 at 07:54:36 |
| [slm] Bhaloo that was the same Hadith that was posted in the folder...thanks for putting it up :) Jannah I didn't mean to create confusion, I put it up to clarify for me self too, cuz i've prayed it and sent the hadith to mad people when i heard abt it here :( Umm....I'll ask my imam and look into, Inshaallah I'll post more. [wlm] |
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| WhatDFish |
| 03/09/02 at 02:17:30 |
| [slm] when a doubt arises from a matter like this its best you leave it. the way i see it there is no harm if you do not do it but there is this fear ure transgressing if you do, so therefore its best not to. and i apply this rule to things like meelads etc. the hadeeth - what is halaal is clear and what is haraam is clear . . . can be applied to many other aspects of life as well. i used to perform salaatul tasbeeh back then but left it when i found out that there are doubts regarding the authenticity of that hadeeth. and Allah knows best. ultimately we must remind ourselves that we seek to please Allah in whatever we do and to do it in the best way possible and it has to fulfil two things ie its done with sincerity and that it is in accordance with the sharee'ah. Allah reminds us in the Qur'an that the christians introduced monasticism into their deen to please Allah but it was not what Allah asked of them. so we must clarify matters lest we transgress. wa assalaam `Uthmaan |
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