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| Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| isra81 |
| 03/09/02 at 19:08:39 |
| As Salamu Alaikum. I dont memorize sajdah ayaht's where is in quran (I cant arabic) and if I listen any sajdah ayah I dont do salatul telaawat am I responsible for that in yawmul qiyamah? Is sajda-e telaawat fardz to do? Wassalamu Alaikum |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| AyeshaZ |
| 03/09/02 at 19:31:13 |
| [slm] he he SubhanAllah, I had a quiz about this in my tajweed class today and this was the chapter i didn't really pay attention to :'(.. There are about 14 to 15 verses in the Quran that require Sajat-at-Tilawa and on most Mushafs of the Quran there is this special symbol on the side of the page indicating to perform the sajda. However, as you said that you can't read arabic hmm well than you probably have to memorize the exact Ayah's to perform the sajda. Also, this book that *ahem* we had the Quiz over is an excellent book and has a whole part of a chapter on the exact Ayahs of the Quran where one has to peform the Sajda. Ulum al Quran by Ahmad Von Denfer and its accesible online at" http://memebers.home.net/ameer1/chat1.html. However, the last chapter is not available on this particular website, i'll try to search some other websites. And inshaAllah someone will elaborate :) Wallahu Al'am WaSalamz |
| 03/09/02 at 20:25:16 |
| AyeshaZ |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| bhaloo |
| 03/09/02 at 19:56:21 |
| [slm] The website address changed to: http://members.cox.net/ameer1/chapt1.html Ahmad Von Defner's Book is accessible here: http://members.cox.net/ameer1/ulum.html I apologize for not having the last chapter up, I asked a friend to scan it in for me, and then i never put it up, because i think i found someone else who had it up as well. The main website address is: http://members.cox.net/arshad |
| 03/09/02 at 19:58:50 |
| bhaloo |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| jannah |
| 03/10/02 at 03:35:14 |
| [quote author=isra81 link=board=madrasa;num=1015718919;start=0#0 date=03/09/02 at 19:08:39]Is sajda-e telaawat fardz to do? Wassalamu Alaikum[/quote] It is sunnah bro... |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| WhatDFish |
| 03/10/02 at 06:56:37 |
| [slm] most scholars are agreed upon that theres sajda tilawah in 14 places in the Qur'an while Imam Shaf`i suggests theres 15(twice in sura al Hajj). and this is what you can read in your sajda "sajada wajhiya lilladhi khalaqahu waSawwarahu wa shaqqa, sam`ahu wabaSarahu, tabaarakaLlahu aHsanul khaaliqeen." ` denotes `ain S denotes Saad do ask if you need to clarify the transliteration it means "My face is prostrated to the One who created it, and fashioned it and give it hearing and sight. Blessed is Allah, the Supreme Creator. " (Saheeh Muslim) you can read that with this infront in your normal sajda too. Allahumma laka sajadtu, wabika aamantu, walaka aslamtu . . . . . its means Oh Allah, to you I prostrate myself and in You I believe. To You I have submitted . . . . . . wa assalaam `Uthmaan ;-) |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| Taalibatul_ilm |
| 03/10/02 at 07:36:20 |
| [slm] A little more information on the subject from islam-qa.com Question: I would like to know the specific ayats in the Qu'Ran where we should prostrate. Answer: Praise be to Allaah. There are fifteen places in the Qur’aan where we should perform sajdat al-tilaawah (prostration of recitation) when reciting them. It was reported from ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recited to him fifteen verses in the Qur’aan where one should prostrate, three of which are in al-Mufassal and two in Soorat al-Hajj. It was reported by Abu Dawood, Ibn Maajah, al-Haakim and al-Daaraqutni, and classed as hasan by al-Mundhiri and al-Nawawi. The fifteen aayat are (interpretation of the meanings): 1 - “Surely those who are with your Lord (angels) are never too proud to perform acts of worship to Him, but they glorify His Praise and prostrate before Him.” [al-A’raaf 7:206] 2 - “And unto Allaah (Alone) falls in prostration whoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and so do their shadows in the mornings and in the afternoons.” [al-Ra’d 13:15] 3 – “And to Allaah prostrate all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth, of the live moving creatures and the angels, and they are not proud [i.e., they worship their Lord (Allaah) with humility].” [al-Nahl 16:49] 4 – “Say (O Muhammad): ‘Believe in it (the Qur’aan) or do not believe (in it). Verily! Those who were given knowledge before it, when it is recited to them, fall down on their faces in humble prostration.” [al-Isra’ 17:107] 5 – “… When the Verses of the Most Beneficent (Allaah) were recited unto them, they fell down prostrating and weeping.” [Maryam 19:58] 6 – “See you not that to Allaah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is one the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the mountains, and the trees, and al-dawaab (moving living creatures, beasts, etc.), and many of mankind? But there are many (men) on whom the punishment is justified. And whomsoever Allaah disgraces, none can honour him. Verily! Allaah does what He wills.” [al-Hajj 22:18] 7 – “O you who believe! Bow down, and prostrate yourselves, and worship your Lord and do good that you may be successful.” [al-Hajj 22:77] 8 – “And when it is said to them: ‘Prostrate to the Most Beneficent (Allaah)!’ They say, ‘And what is the Most Beneficent? Shall we fall down in prostration to that which you (O Muhammad) command us?’ And it increases in them only aversion.” [al-Furqaan 25:60] 9 – “[As Shaytaan has barred them from Allaah’s Way] so that they do not worship (prostrate before) Allaah, Who brings to light what is hidden in the heavens and the earth, and knows what you conceal and what you reveal.” [al-Naml 27:25] 10 – “Only those believe in Our aayaat (verses, signs, etc.) who, when they are reminded of them fall down prostrate, and glorify the Praises of their Lord, and they are not proud.” [al-Sajdah 32:15] 11 – “… And Dawood guessed that We had tried him and he sought forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned (to Allaah) in repentance.” [Saad 38:24] 12 – “And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Him Who created them, if you (really) worship Him.” [Fussilat 41:37] 13 – “So fall down in prostration to Allaah, and worship Him (Alone).” [al-Najm 53:62] 14 – “And when the Qur’aan is recited to them, they fall not prostrate.” [al-Inshiqaaq 84:21] 15 – “… Fall prostrate and draw near to Allaah!” [al-‘Alaq 96:19] Al-Albaani said, in Tamaam al-Minnah (296): “On the contrary, the hadeeth is not hasan, because it includes two majhool [unknown] narrators. Al-Haafiz said in al-Talkhees, after quoting the opinion of al-Mundhiri and al-Nawawi that it is hasan: ‘’Abd al-Haqq and Ibn Qattaan classed it as da’eef [weak]. It includes ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Munayn, who is majhool, and the one who narrated from him is al-Haarith ibn Sa’eed al-‘Atqi, who is also unknown.’ Ibn Maakoolaa said: ‘ He did not narrate any hadeeth apart from this one.” Hence al-Tahhaawi was of the opinion that there is no second sajdah in Soorat al-Hajj, towards the end of the soorah. This is also the opinion of Ibn Hazm who said in al-Muhalla: “Because it is not narrated in any saheeh report that this was the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and there is no scholarly consensus to this effect. But it was reported with a saheeh isnaad that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, the daughter of ‘Abd-Allaah and Abu Darda’ performed sajdah in (the second verse quoted from Soorat al-Hajj).” Then Ibn Hazm discussed whether the sajdahs for the other aayaat quoted are prescribed in Islam. He mentioned that the scholars are agreed upon the first ten, that performing sujood when reciting these aayaat is prescribed. Al-Tahhaawi also reported this consensus in Sharh al-Ma’aani (1/211), but he said that the sajdah in Soorat Fussilat was prescribed, instead of the sajdah in Soorat Saad. Both scholars narrated ahaadeeth with saheeh isnaads from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning the sajdahs in Saad, al-Najm, al-Inshiqaaq and al-‘Alaq. These last three are from the Mufassal, which is referred to in the hadeeth of ‘Amr mentioned above. In conclusion, even though the isnaad of the hadeeth is weak, it is supported by the consensus of the ummah which supports most of it, and by saheeh ahaadeeth which support the rest of it, except for the second sajdah in Soorat al-Hajj, for which there is no evidence in the Sunnah or in the consensus of the scholars. But some of the Sahaabah used to prostrate when reciting it, which could be taken as evidence, especially since no one is known to have disputed with them in this regard. To sum up, the prostration of recitation should be performed when reciting the fifteen verses quoted above. And Allaah knows best. Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| isra81 |
| 03/10/02 at 18:00:37 |
| [quote author=AyeshaZ link=board=madrasa;num=1015718919;start=0#1 date=03/09/02 at 19:31:13] However, as you said that you can't read arabic WaSalamz[/quote] As Salamu Alaikum. I can read quran but I dont understand arabic. I know there is mark as sajdah on left of page. But what I'm asking is, example I just come to masjed and someone read quran and he read sajdah ayah but I do only listen and not see the mark of sajdah or I listen quran on tv and this one read sajdah ayah, even I dont understand arabic so I cant know now was reading sajdah ayah's and I dont make sajda-e telawaat (without intention). Am I responsible for this? That were my another question.I'm sory for my bad english. I'm thanking to all who has reply my question. Wassalamu Alaikum. |
| 03/10/02 at 18:01:36 |
| isra81 |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| Noor |
| 03/12/02 at 05:30:56 |
| [slm] [quote]I just come to masjed and someone read quran and he read sajdah ayah[/quote] If the imam in congregational prayer reads the sajdah ayah, then he will make the sajdah and you will follow him. If you hear a person reciting the quran aloud in the mosque, then when he recites the ayah, he will make the sajdah (since he will be looking at the mushaf and see the mark), and you can follow him and make a sajdah of your own. If you are watching prayers on TV then of course you can see the ppl make the sajdah at the appropriate ayah. The problem comes when you are listening without watching, but since the sajdah is only sunnah and not fard there is no fault on you inshaAllah if you don't prostrate. Of course if you want a fool proof way, just memorize all 14 ayahs! :) wassalamu alaikum |
| Re: Sajda-e Telaawat |
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| isra81 |
| 03/12/02 at 17:36:43 |
| [quote author=Noor link=board=madrasa;num=1015718919;start=0#7 date=03/12/02 at 05:30:56] Of course if you want a fool proof way, just memorize all 14 ayahs! :) [/quote] Salam Alaikum. Thank you for reply. If I overcome about my situation in life may I'll memorize because I have other thinks to learn and memorize before.Wassalam |
| 03/12/02 at 17:39:06 |
| isra81 |
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