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A Heart Felt Letter to All
Caraj
03/11/02 at 15:23:45
This is a long post but I hope you'll take the time to read it.
My heart and my spirit is filled with confusion and sadness.

I came to this board to learn about Islam and to make new friends.
I found both. Many people have been very kind and have welcomed me with open arms.

This letter is so sincere and heart felt. It comes out of love, compassion, but also sadness, concern, worry and much much more.

I've learned so very much here and I am deeply apprecative. But I am also finding things that worry me.  Don't get me wrong I do not wish to judge anyone. I don't want to offend anyone.

True friendship I know involves accepting the bad with the good. And I don't want to be a fair weather friend.

One thing I learned is most Non Muslims have no idea about Islam. Till I learned I had no idea they believed in Adam, Eve, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, etc. All I heard was they worship some God named Allah. Now in my heart and mind I have come to the conclusion that the Christian, Muslim and Jewish God is one in the same, ONE GOD,  it's just somewhere down the road centuries ago they all came to turmoil and split up.

I have learned that Mohammed like Jesus both spoke of Loving God/Allah and no other God and to love one another. Neither said
Love one another IF they believe as we do
NOT,  Love one another IF they treat us right
NOT,  Love one another IF they do as we think they should.

They just said LOVE ONE ANOTHER........ No if's. SO if we are to love one another and there not judge as God/ Allah is the only one to judge, why all the turmoil and violence?

What I am finding is nothing more than what I found in Christianity. Some are good, some are not, some are strong in their belief and some are not so strong in their beliefs and some are fanatical. Some interpet things differently. ETC  ETC  ETC

What does one do and believe? How do you make yourselves stand out amoung the rest of the religons, beliefs and ways of life?

We talk about the prophet in tears praying for those who hurt him and in another post are happy if the US gets an aircraft shot down. Or speaking about hoping others have nukes... BIG NUKES. In one post we mention wanting to share our belief and inform people and yet another we are talking about chewing someone out and getting angry cause they asked a question, etc  etc etc. Wheres the forgiveness in that. What would Mohammed have done? What would Jesus had done?

Would either of them have flown a plane in a buildind? Would either of them have bombed a country? Would either of them fought over a piece of land or would they of shared?

One post tells of love, mercy and forgiveness and yet another talks of teaching children to hate jews.

I love each and everyone of you on this board because the same God who created you also created me. Because I am told to love one another. Because I in my heart and soul and being tells me to.
I don't like what is going on between Isreal and Palistine. I don't like what happened on Sept. 11 th. I don't like the bombing in Afganistan. I don't like hatred, lack of mercy, evil and etc etc.

Please  before I lose all faith, is there any way of life (beliefs, religon) that will stop with the IF'S and the BUT'S ?

I don't want to live in a country that thinks they are the worlds policeman, I personally wouldn't want that responsability.  But I equally wouldn't want to live in a country where I would be killed or jailed cause I didn't wear a veil.  I don't feel one has to bomb, nor kill nor fly airplanes into buildings to make a statement.

What does one do? What does one think? How do we love and respect one another without the conditions we place on one another?

I beg of all of you, Maybe cause I am not Muslim you may not consider me your sister. But in my heart I consider all my brothers and sister. So I request of you all when you post, when you hope or wish for something, when you are about to rejoice in revenge, in retaliation, when you feel justified to greet violence with violence, hatred with hatred...........

Please ask yourselves, What would Mohammed and what would Jesus have done. I say this to all Muslims (as you believe in both Jesus and Mohammed as prophets) and to Non-Muslims.

If you truly believe in ONE GOD ( no matter what you want to call him) and if you truly belive in the teachings of Mohammed and / or Jesus, please stop being happy and /or rejoicing in retaliation, violence, revenge and let's get on with loving God/Allah and each other.

Thank You for listening



03/11/02 at 15:30:38
Caraj
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
isra81
03/11/02 at 17:47:30
Salam Alaikum. I could reply some questions but my english is bad, I think here are enought brothers and sisters may say somethinks. But a notice, I have learned and experiment with some muslims on internet that this is not true, WE LOVE US EACH OTHER FOR SAKE OF ALLAH. Wassalamu Alaikum
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
nouha
03/11/02 at 18:46:15
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JAZAAAAAAAAAAAAKILAH SISTER CARA......

see i referred you as SISTER, so you are MY sister  :-*

that was sooo beautiful, even though you are a non muslim, i still feel somewhat obligated to say May Allah(SWT) bless your heart and the rest of us and show you and the rest of us the right path.....:)

[wlm]

nouha:)
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
yoursister
03/12/02 at 04:56:55
assalamu alaikum all

i would just like to say i agree with the general message - peace not war and i think most would support this idea. Allah has given man free will so that is why there will never be peace on this earth. as Muslims we have to try and do our best to create as much as peace as possible by being kind to our neighbours, through acts of kindness and charity. we can not change the world but we can try to make it better if it is Allah's will. i believe that we should not judge Islam by the people that practice it but the message that it contains.

wa alaikum assalaam
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
isra81
03/12/02 at 17:27:46
[quote author=Caraj link=board=madrasa;num=1015878225;start=0#0 date=03/11/02 at 15:23:45]
Please  before I lose all faith, is there any way of life (beliefs, religon) that will stop with the IF'S and the BUT'S ?
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Salam Alaikum. Sis Caraj, I'm thinking since yesterday this message, I dont get it. Are you looking other way besides Islam? Are you not a muslim? Sory for this question but I'm curious. Wassalamu Alaikum
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
Caraj
03/12/02 at 23:16:35
[quote author=isra81
Salam Alaikum. Sis Caraj, I'm thinking since yesterday this message, I dont get it. Are you looking other way besides Islam? Are you not a muslim? Sory for this question but I'm curious. Wassalamu Alaikum[/quote]

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Hello     ;-)    Isra

No need to be sorry Isra.   I am a very open person. I do not mind your questions. You may ask me anything you wish.

No I am not Muslim. I came to this board to learn about Islam and to make new friends.

I feel quite drawn to the Islamic way of life.
But I wish to study the Quran before I make such a decision.

Many many people on this board have been answering my questions and helping me for a few months now.

I am going to visit a Mosque soon also.

I will ask Eleanor who knows German to explain this post to you in German so you can understand.    :)
03/12/02 at 23:18:19
Caraj
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
eleanor
03/13/02 at 06:24:16
Die Übersetzung...

Du brauchst nicht zu sagen, dass es dir leid tut. Ich bin ein sehr offener Mensch. Deine Fragen machen mir nichts aus. Du darfst mir alles fragen was du willst.

Nein, ich bin kein Muslim. Ich bin zu dieser Forum gekommen um den Islam kennenzulernen und neue Freundschaften zu schliessen.

Die Islamische Lebensstil reizt mich an. Aber ich will zuerst den Qur'an studieren bevor ich eine Entscheidung treffe.

Sehr viele Leute in dieser Forum haben meine Fragen beantwortet und haben mir seit einige Monate geholfen.

Ich werde demnächst eine Moschee besuchen auch noch dazu.

Ich werde die Eleanor, die Deutsch kann, fragen ob sie diese Post ins Deutsch übersetzt damit du verstehen kannst.



wasalaam
eleanor  :-*
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
isra81
03/13/02 at 17:07:04
[quote author=eleanor link=board=madrasa;num=1015878225;start=0#6 date=03/13/02 at 06:24:16]Die Übersetzung...

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Dankeschön für die Übersetzung... Wessalamu aleykum.
03/13/02 at 17:35:56
isra81
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
isra81
03/13/02 at 17:22:34
Salam. Sis Caraj. I thought you are a muslimah. Now I understand your letter better. I have problem with english when I would write. My undertstanding is better. I understand your last post to me but thanks to (sis or bro) elanor for translation.
Yes there are many brothers and sisters they have good knowledge about islam and not like me just a simple muslim, they will help always. There is questions in your letter and they should be answered or need comments. But I have my own problems so I cant give advice or such so. InshaAllah if Allah will, you get Hedayah from Allah swt. Wassalam...
03/13/02 at 17:37:22
isra81
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
Ruqayyah
03/13/02 at 18:36:06
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I ran across this ayat last night and it reminded me of this post and what's going on in the world today. It's from Surah 5, Al-Maeda (The Table Spread) Ayat 48

"If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute"

I think it speaks for itself :)

[wlm]
Ruqayyah
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
Noera
03/14/02 at 21:51:39
Dear CaraJ,

One of my favorite high school teachers once said, "Confusion is the beginning of wisdom."  

I have no doubt that Muslims have caused you a great deal of confusion.  
But perhaps you can turn that confusion into wisdom.  

I was recently asked a question a friend who is considering Islam as a way of life and I think it reflects similar sentiments to what you are feeling.  She, like you, has been learning a great deal about Islam.  She has read much of the Qur'an and has been studying Hadith and has been reading countless books on Islam.  She has been struck by the remarkable emphasis that Islam places on justice and equality.  The question that she asked me was, "I know that Islam is probably the most just way of life out there, so why are Muslims some of the most unjust people?"  

Here is a quick attempt to answer her question and to address some of the concerns in your post.

First, I want to make it clear that Muslims do not have a monopoly on unjust behavior.  There are unjust people in every community, just as there are wise and good people in every community.

Yes, Islam stands for justice and equality and love and peace.  And yes, Muslims often act in direct contradiction with those principles.  Does this mean Islam is at fault? No.  Rather, it is Muslims who are at fault.  The Qur'an tells us that this is the case.  ("Most of them understand not").  Most Muslims do not understand what our religion stands for.  Most of us follow Islam when it is convenient for us, not when it is difficult.  It's easy for us to pray five times a day but it's very difficult to forgive those who have done us wrong (even though that is what Allah has recommended).

You and my friend have hit the nail on the head. There is a wide discrepancy between Islam and Muslims.  As a Muslim, I believe that Islam is the undeniable truth.  I believe in that truth even though the majority of Muslims do not understand that truth.  You and my friend, even though you are not Muslim, probably know and understand Islam more than most Muslims do.  

All I ask is that you continue your struggle for wisdom.  I hope that the confusion Muslims have caused you is a source of inspiration for you to learn more.   Do not let mis-practicing Muslims stop you from learning about the true Islam.  If you keep learning more, you can keep reminding us that we are not living up to our ideal Islam.   :)

In peace,
Noera

(I hope that I did not offend anyone.  That was not my intention at all.
Even though their are many mis-practicing Muslims, I know that there are many good Muslims also.  I pray that Allah continues to shower his mercy and blessings upon everyone.  :-*)
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
Kathy
03/15/02 at 10:08:09
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"Confusion is the beginning of wisdom."  

:-[

This is exactly how it happened for me!

:-)
Re: A Heart Felt Letter to All
M.F.
03/20/02 at 10:00:43
Cara:
I ask myself the same question all the time: What would Muhammad [saw] have done?
His manner was not to speak out his hatred of anyone.  
His manner was to ask Allah to guide his enemies.
His manner was one of mercy and setting a good example.
I myself feel hurt when people make du'a to Allah to destroy America (although I understand where it's coming from). Wouldn't it be so much closer to the Prophet's manner to ask Allah to guide them and put mercy in their hearts?
There is no Islam without mercy.  Allah is The Merciful, and He taught us and His prophet to be merciful as well.
We were all born with a measure to know what is bad and what is good.  Sometimes that measure gets distorted when we start following our desires and making bad things look good.
I think that's what happens to a lot of misguided people.
One of my favorite supplications to Allah is one that the Prophet's companion Omar used to make:
Oh Allah, show us the truth as truth and grant us following it
and show us falsehood as falsehood and grant us avoiding it.
Ameen
That's really all the world needs.


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