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VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
mujaahid
03/23/02 at 15:39:38
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Guys, i think we should vote of the "views" feature on the boards. Its seriously misleading!!

For example, say someone posts one new message, and i read it, it will have one view, if i know reply to this, it then has two views!!

The views thing is misleading, it shows many many more views then people have actually viewed!!

Or am i making a mountain out of a mole hill? ???
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Kashif
03/23/02 at 16:03:05
assalaamu alaikum

Yeah, i don't like it either. Its just one more thing to clutter the screen.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Kathy
03/23/02 at 17:37:25
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I really like it- but then- I'm always interested in statistics.

I post a topic- and like to watch- how many read it vs how many post.

For Example:

The Easter topic& the Abuse topic- alot read them- so they found the information potentially useful. But by #replies i would not have known that.

I also got a chuckle over Br. Khalid's personal "brothers only"- their were alot of views....
:-)
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
bhaloo
03/23/02 at 17:54:47
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Kathy I think you meant Bro. Hanif's post.  And you read that?  :o

I personally like the views thing, it gives people an idea of what posts are interesting and read the most.
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
jannah
03/24/02 at 05:50:14
[wlm]

I already looked at it, it's not an on and off feature, it's built into the script.. so unless someone wants to rewrite the 15 perl scripts it's gonna stay....
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Kathy
03/24/02 at 11:50:35
[quote author=bhaloo link=board=media;num=1016915978;start=0#3 date=03/23/02 at 17:54:47] I think you meant Bro. Hanif's post.  And you read that?  [/quote]

Maybe I did and Maybe I didn't.... ;)

::)But watching the view's numbers was quite interesting considering we don't have that many brothers on the membership!


Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Anonymous
03/24/02 at 19:29:59
maybe you shouldn't read this if finding out just how
misleading those view numbers are will make you sad.....      mujaahid is
right about the inflation of the numbers, but it's sometimes even worse
than doubling.  with my lackadaisical dial-up connection, i've had to
reload topics as many as four times just to get to read them once.  every
reload registers as a new view.  

Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Caraj
03/24/02 at 23:00:45
[quote author=mujaahid link=board=media;num=1016915978;start=0#0 date=03/23/02 at 15:39:38] [slm]

For example, say someone posts one new message, and i read it, it will have one view, if i know reply to this, it then has two views!!

The views thing is misleading, it shows many many more views then people have actually viewed!![/quote]

Ok I'm opening my big mouth and I don't mean to offend anyone but I kind of had enough of this voting stuff. Mujaahid this is nothing personal toward you, I am only quoting one of your remarks to answer ok little bro?

#1) Maybe two people we're reading it at once and that is why it shows two views.

#2) I personally think this whole site is wonderful and precious. I personally have benefited in many ways, thank God/Allah.
I can only imagine it took hours upon hours to get this new board up and instead of thanking and appreciating Jannah and others for their efforts seems like someone always wants to vote something on or off.

#3) I think it is great ...  I know if I see a new post then I enter a thread more than once a day so if  5 or 10 or 20 of us are doing that,  buy the end of the week that is 35 or 70 or 100 or many more per week.
It shows people  that even though there are limited replies, there is an interest. I personally monitor some subjects on a regular basis but feel I have nothing beneficial or good to add so I don't post but look at it once or twice a day.

Hope this doesn't sound to harsh, but isn't this Jannah's project ? (correct me if I am wrong) It is hers (and others) efforts, if folks wanna go doing things different  then go put hours of your heart and sweat into a project (web sire) and then you can do it the way you want to.

Forgive me Admins but I just had to say this. Personally I thank Jannah and all who helped put this and the old boards together. They are wonderful and I know they must of took many hours and days and weeks to do. May God/Allah bless your efforts   ;)

Cara>>>>>>>> steps off her soap box thinking, she has most likely made a few enemies, but hopes not. She was speaking her heart

03/24/02 at 23:04:04
Caraj
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
mujaahid
03/25/02 at 06:40:32
SHE ATTACKED ME, CARA ATTACKED ME!!! WAAAAAWAAAAWAAAAA :'(

Hey Cara i dont like that new feature, so  :P

She shouted at me!!! :'(
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Caraj
03/25/02 at 10:27:42
Mujaahid this is nothing personal toward you, I am only quoting one of your remarks to answer ok little bro?

#1) Maybe two people we're reading it at once and that is why it shows two views. [/quote]
*********************************************************

It was not to attack you   :D
Be nice now, and I wasn't shouting   :P

Here Lil' Bro calm down and have a >>>    []
03/25/02 at 18:58:41
Caraj
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
jannah
03/25/02 at 14:26:58
ok kids cut it out or else i'm stopping this car right now!! do you hear me!!! ;)


ok but seriously... whatever suggestions/criticisms you have please send them to arshad or me.  this board is not a democracy.. it is not a khilafah etc etc...[insert my usual constitution speech here] it's sorta like a shurah.. the moderators and the admin are the shurah...input goes to them or is asked from them and the ameer and ameerah make the final decisions...but everyone can participate...i don't know what system of governance you'd call this...but there it is...
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
mujaahid
03/25/02 at 15:47:08
Cara

<Here Lil' Bro calm down and have a >>>     []

Thank you Cara, its calming me down a bit  [] :D

Jannah

<ok kids cut it out or else i'm stopping this car right now!! do you hear me!!!>

huh? ??? but..but...BWAA WAA WAA :'( Your shouting at me to, WAAAWAAA :'(

<whatever suggestions/criticisms you have please send them to arshad or me.  this board is not a democracy>

Oh dear, so your saying this board isnt part of the civilised, democratic world?  :-X

<it's sorta like a shurah>

You mean like the Taliban have?  :o

<and the ameer and ameerah make the final decisions...but everyone can participate...i don't know what system of governance you'd call this...but there it is... >

:-/

A Shura, An Ameer, A kinda "system"? It sounds a lot like the Taliban!!! MAASHALLAH Jannah for Modelling the Jannah.org admin system on the Taliban!! May Allah reward you!

I still think the Views are seriously misleading AND i think they have a negative affect as in people see it, and it may have a lot of views, and people think, "well if they aint replied, then no point in me replying either, as they dont seem to think its important"!!

And i can clearly see this as many topics have just not picked up like they used to on the old boards!!

Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Barr
03/27/02 at 06:20:06
Assalamu'alaikum :-)

[quote]A Shura, An Ameer, A kinda "system"? It sounds a lot like the Taliban!!! MAASHALLAH Jannah for Modelling the Jannah.org admin system on the Taliban!! May Allah reward you! [/quote]

Sounds more like how the Prophet did it and wants us to do it, rather. Thanks, Jannah, for modelling after him.

Jazakillah :-)

Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
mujaahid
03/27/02 at 09:37:23
[quote author=Barr link=board=media;num=1016915978;start=0#12 date=03/27/02 at 06:20:06]Assalamu'alaikum :-)


Sounds more like how the Prophet did it and wants us to do it, rather. Thanks, Jannah, for modelling after him.

Jazakillah :-)

[/quote]

Thats the whole point i was trying to make! The Taliban done what the Prophet done, it was my way of sneaking in a pro-Taliban comment  ;)
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Caraj
03/27/02 at 12:02:31
[quote author=mujaahid link=board=media;num=1016915978;start=0#13 date=03/27/02 at 09:37:23]

Thats the whole point i was trying to make! The Taliban done what the Prophet done, it was my way of sneaking in a pro-Taliban comment  ;)[/quote]

Not to sound so big sisterly or motherly (as I do have sons your age and older)

sneaking in ???????????  How many times does Jannah have to ask you not to do that before you are respectful enough to honor her wishes  :(
and respectful enough to obide by the rules she set up.

Is sneaking and breaking rules something the Prophet would of done or condoned???  I don't think so.

Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
Laila
03/27/02 at 12:04:12
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 Keep the "views".
 Now,  ;-) Mujaahid, not to pick on you and your views, but I believe that if the Prophet [saw] were alive today that he would be displeased with how the taliban were handling their women, ie: education, jobs, etc.
  [wlm]  :-) Laila
Re: VOTE OFF VIEWS, they are misleading!!
bhaloo
03/27/02 at 12:48:35
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[quote author=Laila link=board=media;num=1016915978;start=15#15 date=03/27/02 at 12:04:12]    [slm], but I believe that if the Prophet [saw] were alive today that he would be displeased with how the taliban were handling their women, ie: education, jobs, etc.
  [wlm]  :-) Laila[/quote]


I think this statement is not entirely true and a very one sided view presented by the west.  There are people (non-Muslims and Muslims) that have refuted such statements having gone there themselves.   In fact the ambassador of the Taliban visited USC about a year or two ago and answered many of these allegations here:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/Taliban/talebanlec.html

There was a yahoo group setup that answered many questions with proofs here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/taliban_info

As has already been mentioned a few times here (and its in the constitution) , the debates/discussions about the Taliban will not be discussed here further, in the past a few people were banned because they couldn't control their behavior, became too emotional and resorted to name calling.


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