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Is this Haraam?
mujaahid
04/10/02 at 08:02:33
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Is it Haraam for a Muslim woman to massage the  Husband of her Sister(her brother-in-law)?

Is this Haraam or allowed in Islaam? This man surely cannot be this girls mahram, so how can she then massage his feet with oils?

Anyway views sisters? And brothers? I dont know, thats why i'm asking you guys!
Re: Is this Haraam?
Aneesa_A.
04/10/02 at 08:49:41
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Is it wrong when a sister sees her brother-in-law as on older brother ?

[wlm]
Re: Is this Haraam?
jannah
04/10/02 at 09:00:03
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Mujaahid looks like you answered the question for yourself.
"This man surely cannot be this girls mahram, so how can she then massage his feet with oils? "

(btw that sounds similar to a hindu wedding tradition? i'm not against wedding traditions per se... but one's that are unislamic should be avoided eh)

As for "seeing someone" as such and such... sure you can see anyone however you want, but the texts are still there that say that person is a mahram or not a mahram and the rules that go with either should be followed.

Like for example alot of ppl in indo/pak/bangladesh see their cousins as their own "brother or sister" (probably because they are pretty much raised together.)  But they end up not covering in front of them and are as relaxed as if it was their own sibling. Still this isn't right b/c their cousin is not their mahram. And the oddest thing is that most of them end up marrying their cousins!!  go figure...


Re: Is this Haraam?
Kathy
04/10/02 at 09:09:50
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The basic principle in this matter should be the hadeeth of the Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): "Beware of entering upon women." A man of the Ansaar asked, "O Messenger of Allaah, what do you think about the brother-in-law?" He said, "The brother-in-law is death." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, 9/330)

From Islam Q&A
Question:

I would like to know what is my relationship to my brother-in-laws (wife's brother) wife. She calls me brother and I treat her like my sister. Is this allowed in Islam. Please advice.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.  

It is not permissible for you to treat your wife’s brother’s wife as your sister, because she is not one of your mahrams. So it is not permissible for her to appear before you without proper hijab, and it is not permissible for you to be alone with her, or to shake hands with her, or to look at her, or to speak to her except from behind a screen, when there is no fear of fitnah (temptation). Allaah has forbidden the believing women to show their adornment except to specific people. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“…and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”

[al-Noor 24:31]

You are not one of the people mentioned in the aayah, so this ruling does not apply to you. And Allaah knows best.



Re: Is this Haraam?
Aneesa_A.
04/10/02 at 09:21:26
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pretty much got the answer then

[wlm]
Re: Is this Haraam?
se7en
04/10/02 at 10:41:22
as salaamu alaykum,

It's a pretty strong hadeeth.. but you can definitely see the wisdom behind it if you visit any of those marriage advice sites :P

a lot of problems start with getting too comfortable with the bro/sis-in-law and this leading to shady behavior..
Re: Is this Haraam?
BroHanif
04/11/02 at 18:54:25


[quote]a lot of problems start with getting too comfortable with the bro/sis-in-law and this leading to shady behavior..
[/quote]

A strong hadith where Prophet  [saw] has said that the brother in law is Death in relation to the above behaviour....

And thats where the dodgy stuff would start from the in laws getting to in with each other...

May Allah save us all from that fitnah

Salaams

Hanif


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